Universal Blue•2y ago

IDK why bazzite is not known to a wider audience

Ppuella aeternis schizoid-level paranoia? 😆

_cryptagion•12/27/23, 4:19 AM

behold! my collection of containers that must absolutely not touch each other

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 4:23 AM

next step is separate physical machines for every application

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 4:24 AM

then when you're truly anonymous you start paying for hundreds of internet connections because you can't trust the vpn providers

johnny•12/27/23, 4:31 AM

@_cryptagion if you were using a lot of untrusted code, then maybe it'd be a good idea to separate out those. A lot of it depends on whether you trust the app and its dependencies. Things would also be different were sandboxing a more "core" feature to apps on linux. I'd probably care less than I do currently if it were. I'm not really paranoid, but there sure is a lot of code developed by tons of people that could cause problems either on purpose on on accident. An accidental one woudl be an parameterized rm -rf that say evaluated to rm -rf /home/user/rm -rf /home/user/ when it should have evaluated to rm -rf /home/user/path/to/app/fileintendedtoberemovedrm -rf /home/user/path/to/app/fileintendedtoberemoved, but an untested combination of options led it to be that way.

j0rge•12/27/23, 5:07 AM

the container setup is more about logical seperation, not running untrusted code

j0rge•12/27/23, 5:07 AM

if you really want that barrier then you'd use a vm

DDarahaas IDK why bazzite is not known to a wider audience

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 5:18 AM

It's only like 6 months old from a user perspective

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 5:19 AM

Still lots of room to grow hopefully

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 5:28 AM

Speaking of which we might actually hit 1K stars before new years

j0rge•12/27/23, 5:30 AM

your pulls

j0rge•12/27/23, 5:31 AM

oh that was wrong, sec

j0rge•12/27/23, 5:32 AM

DarahaasOP•12/27/23, 5:36 AM

I just wish these immutable distros don't grow to be PIA

j0rge•12/27/23, 5:36 AM

pia?

DarahaasOP•12/27/23, 5:36 AM

Pain in ass

j0rge•12/27/23, 5:36 AM

what bothers you about it?

DarahaasOP•12/27/23, 6:08 AM

Just that I'm not used to them

DarahaasOP•12/27/23, 6:08 AM

And I have no idea how to manage them

DDarahaas And I have no idea how to manage them

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 6:18 AM

should be less work since the vast majority of changes live in your home dir

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 6:18 AM

no dependencies to deal with

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 6:19 AM

you may create and blow away a lot of distrobox containers, but once you get the hang of them it's just something you do

DarahaasOP•12/27/23, 6:20 AM

Yeaa

DarahaasOP•12/27/23, 6:20 AM

Containers can use host system fs but, host isn't able to read the container's directory like /etc and /usr

DarahaasOP•12/27/23, 6:24 AM

I installed ms-fonts on an Ubuntu container, but the host cannot read it

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 6:28 AM

you would want to install fonts to your home directory

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 6:28 AM

$HOME/.local/share/fonts$HOME/.local/share/fonts

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 6:34 AM

Or layer them

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 6:34 AM

Depends on your use case really

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 6:35 AM

You can even copy them out of the container into home

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 6:35 AM

Since they share your home dir

Wobble•12/27/23, 7:29 AM

Howdy!

RRyan Is this a known issue?

Acuma•12/27/23, 8:00 AM

This is happening to my friends Deck too. Everything looks fuzzy at anything other than 60hz. Setting it to 50hz makes everything freak out pretty bad.

Robotta•12/27/23, 8:34 AM

https://nobaraproject.org/category/changelog/

Robotta•12/27/23, 8:34 AM

There's a line here that is quite interesting

Robotta•12/27/23, 8:34 AM

Normally we follow Nvidia’s Production branch for driver releases, however we’ve added Nvidia’s 545.29.06 drivers from the New Feature branch for compatibility on wayland
We’ve also added the required explicit sync patches for xwayland in order for this to work:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/90
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/967
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/proto/xorgproto/-/merge_requests/59
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/3300

As of now the full driver set has been tested and working on wayland in both KDE and GNOME on at least a 2060 super, gt 1030, and gtx 960m with no major problems.

GitLab

Draft: linux-drm-syncobj-v1: new protocol (!90) · Merge requests · ...

This is a new Linux explicit synchronization protocol based on DRM synchronization objects 1. ...

GitLab

Explicit GPU Synchronization for DRI3, Present, and Xwayland (!967)...

Here is our proposal for adding explicit GPU synchronization to the DRI3 and Present extensions, along with an implementation for Xwayland. While we at NVIDIA may be particularly...

GitLab

DRI3 1.4 and Present 1.3 Featuring Explicit Synchronization (!59) ·...

Protocol specification to accompany xorg/xserver!967 providing...

GitLab

Draft: Implement linux-drm-syncobj-v1 (!3300) · Merge requests · GN...

This implements the linux-drm-syncobj-v1 wayland protocol to handle the global migration to explicit sync. At a high level this hooks up the fds passed through the explicit sync...

Robotta•12/27/23, 8:35 AM

AFAIK Bazzite testing also uses these patches right?

Wobble•12/27/23, 8:50 AM

What Bluetooth codecs does bazzite support on oled currently?

RRobotta AFAIK Bazzite testing also uses these patches right?

dreamyuki•12/27/23, 8:59 AM

https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/commit/e9f304bfb538d9b46a91f443997a5c39408db01a

GitHub

feat: Add patched Xwayland for Nvidia 545. · ublue-os/bazzite@e9f304b

dreamyuki•12/27/23, 8:59 AM

Yes

Robotta•12/27/23, 9:20 AM

Makes sense

Robotta•12/27/23, 9:21 AM

Unfortunately it doesn't fix my issues but it's cool to know that we are getting the driver to a workable state by community efforts

Robotta•12/27/23, 9:23 AM

Hopefully 550 it's not as problematic

Raltay•12/27/23, 9:36 AM

Minor bug I noticed - justjust command to install BoilR fails to properly download it (creates an empty file named BoilR), probably some error in

jq

jq

syntax used there.

Also, BoilR is available via Flathub now - https://flathub.org/apps/io.github.philipk.boilr

so unless there are some downsides to it, I think it would be better for Bazzite Portal to just install flatpak version instead of dling it directly from github.

Flathub - Apps for Linux

BoilR | Flathub

Add non-steam games to your steam library

DDarahaas IDK why bazzite is not known to a wider audience

Geechan•12/27/23, 11:04 AM

I will say Bazzite is the first time I've felt like switching my main desktop over from Arch in over 8 years. It's really well done, and having an immutable desktop with distrobox is tempting me over

Geechan•12/27/23, 11:05 AM

Definitely deserves more traction. It's excellent (same with the entire ublue project)

Geechan•12/27/23, 11:07 AM

Probably helps that flatpaks have matured to a point where I feel they can cover most desktop use cases

RRaltay Minor bug I noticed - `just` command to install BoilR fails to properly download...

Raltay•12/27/23, 1:23 PM

Same story with Greenlight - current install via just/portal fails. There is Flatpak version available now - https://flathub.org/apps/io.github.unknownskl.greenlight

Flathub - Apps for Linux

Greenlight | Flathub

Greenlight is an open-source client for xCloud and Xbox home streaming