I'm having some difficulty having my generic TM grip being detected, I've triple checked the wiring

I'm having some difficulty having my generic TM grip being detected, I've triple checked the wiring & the grip on another gimbal. Interestingly when I press certain buttons (1st stage detent on the trigger for example) I hear a slight buzzing from the mainboard as if something is shorting, but the connector or wiring are all isolated, anyone have any ideas?

AActivity I'm having some difficulty having my generic TM grip being detected, I've triple...

walmis•12/27/23, 10:09 AM

Can you verify your connection to the mainboard?

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 10:18 AM

will do, stdby

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 10:41 AM

Yep, verified

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 10:41 AM

when booting up (with the grip connected) debug shows me this:

walmis•12/27/23, 10:44 AM

Yeah doesn't look right

walmis•12/27/23, 10:44 AM

If you disconnect the grip it should be all FFs

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 10:45 AM

so even with the connector disconnected from the mainboard, I get the same result from the debugger

walmis•12/27/23, 10:49 AM

Can you check if the DATA line is shorting to GND somewhere?

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 10:52 AM

in the connector it isn't, when the mainboard is unpowered it isn't, but when the mainboard is connected to usb (not psu) I do get a shot between DATA and GND

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 10:53 AM

this may be my shitty multimeter, but when powered with usb I get continuity between GND and every pin in the grip connector?

walmis•12/27/23, 10:54 AM

Try unpowering it, and check with the diode test mode with reverse polarity applied (red on GND)

walmis•12/27/23, 10:55 AM

I get ~570mV on all three data pins

Wwalmis Try unpowering it, and check with the diode test mode with reverse polarity appl...

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 10:55 AM

then I don't get any continuity

walmis•12/27/23, 10:56 AM

You should def get a reading. Try black on VCC and red on GND

Wwalmis I get ~570mV on all three data pins

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 10:57 AM

I get 2.7 on CK, 2,3 on CS, 0.01 on DI

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 10:57 AM

(V)

Wwalmis You should def get a reading. Try black on VCC and red on GND

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 10:58 AM

yes this has continuity

walmis•12/27/23, 11:00 AM

Yeah, not sure if the pin is fried or there's a short on the board somewhere

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 11:04 AM

any idea how I could test and/or resolve this?

walmis•12/27/23, 11:07 AM

Can you grab a good hi-res picture of the board?

walmis•12/27/23, 11:08 AM

If nothing obvious probably good idea to exchange the board for a new one

Wwalmis Can you grab a good hi-res picture of the board?

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 11:11 AM

Sure:

walmis•12/27/23, 11:14 AM

Can you also grab the bottom side?

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 11:16 AM

walmis•12/27/23, 11:31 AM

oh there we go

walmis•12/27/23, 11:32 AM

walmis•12/27/23, 11:32 AM

that should fix it

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 11:36 AM

oeh good catch, lemme clean that out

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 11:44 AM

ladies and gentlemen, we got it!

ActivityOP•12/27/23, 11:44 AM

you're a legend @walmis thanks for the help

Shaz•12/27/23, 4:43 PM

Hey all, just want to get a rough ETA on when to expect the unit to ship after payment. Hope everyone is having a great holiday.

SShaz Hey all, just want to get a rough ETA on when to expect the unit to ship after p...

walmis•12/27/23, 5:19 PM

It usually ships within 3-5 days

RoyMi6•12/27/23, 11:25 PM

Howday! Was messing around with Rhino while I wait on replacement winwing adapter and the two times I had a chance to try it after about 10 minutes of playing DCS the Rhino disconnects then reconnects again (reported by windows usb device pop up). It stops responding to DCS ffb until I restart the game.
I’m running rhino through a usb hub, and I’m flying the f14 with telemFFB as well… any ideas for me to fix this tomorrow?

A. Palmetto•12/28/23, 5:05 AM

Do you have a log? It would help if it’s getting to hot, motor current, magnetic encoder faults ect.

NNumber481 hmm.. I am scratching me head here.... I wrote that code so I'm pretty familia...

Pikas62•12/28/23, 7:49 AM

If I understood correctly, you are a developer of TelemFFB. Is it possible to implement a force trim function for FFB pedals via TelemFFB, since DCS only controls one FFB device? Similar to MSFS, where you can also activate the Force Trim function externally via TelemFFB.

AA. Palmetto Do you have a log? It would help if it’s getting to hot, motor current, magnetic...

RoyMi6•12/28/23, 8:10 AM

Cheers. Will have a look see and post what I can find

RRoyMi6 Cheers. Will have a look see and post what I can find

walmis•12/28/23, 8:18 AM

First thing I'd try is a direct connection to the PC without the hub

Andre•12/28/23, 10:37 AM

The dynamic spring function for MSFS, does not seem to work for Rudder pedals. Flying from stall speed to Vne, i get the same spring tension. Spring gain is set to 100% in the configurator and the potmeters are disabled.

AA. Palmetto Do you have a log? It would help if it’s getting to hot, motor current, magnetic...

RoyMi6•12/28/23, 11:12 AM

If I want to log while I'm testing this, do I just do "log data" from the debug tab?

RoyMi6•12/28/23, 11:12 AM

do I need to leave it enabled or can I export after the fact?

Leroy•12/28/23, 2:08 PM

So, I’m having a similar issue: turn everything on, go into DCS, joystick centers. If I alt tab and somehow open the teleffb windows, the stick goes limp. There’s still effects going on (like when rolling on tarmac), but no more centering. And I haven’t been able to get it going in game when it happens, like a reset. Rather, a full pc restart is required :/

RRoyMi6 do I need to leave it enabled or can I export after the fact?

A. Palmetto•12/28/23, 2:13 PM

Either or should work

A. Palmetto•12/28/23, 2:13 PM

But definitely try a direct connection first to the pc usb as walmis said

LLeroy So, I’m having a similar issue: turn everything on, go into DCS, joystick center...

Number481•12/28/23, 3:00 PM

You sure its DCS your talking about?

The behavior you describe sounds a lot like the way IL2 can behave sometimes... I've never had DCS reset its FFB state when the window focus changes.

Does the same behavior occur whether or not you have TelemFFB running?

NNumber481 You sure its DCS your talking about? 😆 The behavior you describe sounds a lot...

Leroy•12/28/23, 3:09 PM

I'll now try without Telem running and see what happens

LLeroy So, I’m having a similar issue: turn everything on, go into DCS, joystick center...

Jehly•12/28/23, 5:46 PM

This also happens to me, occasionally. I can’t seem to reliably replicate it. Rather random.

JJehly This also happens to me, occasionally. I can’t seem to reliably replicate it. Ra...

Leroy•12/28/23, 5:49 PM

I tried it without Telem, switched windows and the same thing happened. Only way I could make it work is by having everything set up such that I didn’t have to switch windows anymore.

A. Palmetto•12/28/23, 7:10 PM

I’ve also had that happen maybe 1x or 2x but it was under heavy motor effect and I got an encoder error. Realized the telemffb settings are based of 50% periodic gain adjusted and hasn’t happened since

A. Palmetto•12/28/23, 7:10 PM

Never tabbing windows tho

DoCBarT•12/29/23, 12:39 AM

Oops, I accidentally cracked the joystick thread connection. when MSFS 2020 starts the rhino in game, The stick immediately dives the y axis into the end stop and with the 10 cm extension (aluminum) attached to a virpil warbird. Wow, the rhino is powerful! How do I order a replacement part and when is the proper time to turn the power on the rhino? I just super glued it back on, gonna wait until tomorrow to rethread the stick.