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Valerie
•
12/29/23, 5:44 AM
Yes
, bazzite
-arch
V
Valerie
•
12/29/23, 5:44 AM
You can use bazzite
-arch on any distro with distrobox support
D
Darahaas
Click to see attachment
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 5:44 AM
Where
's this
?
V
Valerie
You can use bazzite-arch on any distro with distrobox support
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 5:44 AM
So basically
, any distro
.
V
Valerie
You can use bazzite-arch on any distro with distrobox support
V
Valerie
•
12/29/23, 5:44 AM
Which is
, y
'know
, pretty much anything
H
heri
Where's this?
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 5:45 AM
Official bluefin website
D
dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:45 AM
I don
't really like to use distrobox for gaming tbh
Since podman update always broke distrobox and its annoying
D
Darahaas
Official bluefin website
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 5:45 AM
I didn
't know it had one lol
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 5:46 AM
Found it on GitHub
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 5:46 AM
Who uses containers for serious gaming
D
Darahaas
Who uses containers for serious gaming <:thonk:1135464817373749269>
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 5:46 AM
Anyone using steam on Linux because bubblewrap
D
Darahaas
Who uses containers for serious gaming <:thonk:1135464817373749269>
V
Valerie
•
12/29/23, 5:46 AM
Bazzite users
, until a few months ago
V
Valerie
•
12/29/23, 5:47 AM
Steam users with steam runtime
V
Valerie
•
12/29/23, 5:47 AM
Steam flatpak
, lutris flatpak
, or bottles flatpak users
V
Valerie
•
12/29/23, 5:47 AM
Add heroic to that list
V
Valerie
Bazzite users, until a few months ago
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 5:47 AM
I think bazzite uses rpm of steam
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 5:48 AM
yep
D
Darahaas
I think bazzite uses rpm of steam
V
Valerie
•
12/29/23, 5:48 AM
The desktop version didn
't used too
V
Valerie
•
12/29/23, 5:48 AM
Hence why bazzite
-arch
, y
'know
, exists
V
Valerie
•
12/29/23, 5:49 AM
I imagine if some of the weird issues didn
't happen with distrobox
, it
'd still use it
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 5:50 AM
Soo why bazzite
-arch
?
V
Valerie
I imagine if some of the weird issues didn't happen with distrobox, it'd still u...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:51 AM
Less weird issues
, more consistency and supporting HDR and Wayland faster
D
Darahaas
Who uses containers for serious gaming <:thonk:1135464817373749269>
D
dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:51 AM
Valve develop steamlinuxruntime that is basically containers for gaming
D
Darahaas
Soo why bazzite-arch ?
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 5:51 AM
newer libraries and dependencies for gaming
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 5:52 AM
Fedora is up to date right
?
D
Darahaas
Fedora is up to date right ?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:52 AM
Yes
, but you could use a git build of Mesa in a container and keep stable on your main system
, for instance
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:52 AM
Containers are very powerful
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 5:54 AM
Can I use Nvidia drivers from arch container to game
?
D
Darahaas
Can I use Nvidia drivers from arch container to game ?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:55 AM
That you can
't
, it
'll use the drivers on your host
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:55 AM
Closed source driver moment
D
dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:56 AM
Yes but you need a matching kernel module
D
dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:56 AM
Even if the version is slightly different
D
dreamyuki
Yes but you need a matching kernel module
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 5:56 AM
What if nvidia
-dkms
D
dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:56 AM
Nope you can
't use kernel module with container
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 5:57 AM
Soo why bazzite is based on fedora and why not on arch
D
Darahaas
Soo why bazzite is based on fedora and why not on arch
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:58 AM
No ostree on arch
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:58 AM
Bazzite is primarily interested in OSTree
D
dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:58 AM
and OCI image
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 5:58 AM
I see
D
dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:59 AM
Creating a distro from fedora ostree desktop is super easy
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 5:59 AM
Can
't we port ostree to arch
?
K
Kyle Gospo
No ostree on arch
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 5:59 AM
well there were experiments to do arch ostree but they were abandonded long ago
D
Darahaas
Can't we port ostree to arch ?
V
Valerie
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
Technically yes
, but that
'd take a lot of effort and is DEFINITELY outside of the scope of this project
D
dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
Also there is no pacman
-ostree on arch
D
Darahaas
Can't we port ostree to arch ?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
Sure
, but why do that when it
's here today and works perfectly
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
It
's not like we
're getting a performance benefit out of using arch
, Fedora is at most a couple weeks behind and gets extra stability from that
D
dreamyuki
Also there is no pacman-ostree on arch
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
technically it would be xz
.tar
-ostree
. but yeah
V
Valerie
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
Off topic
, but what do you guys think of onlyoffice
?
D
Darahaas
OP
•
12/29/23, 6:01 AM
I mean
, I
'm not against fedora
.
.
.but tbh
.
.
.arch community and wiki is quite remarkable
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 6:01 AM
then use arch
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