I've noticed that it seems to be time-based somehow. The top timestamp is a successful ublue-update

I've noticed that it seems to be time-based somehow. The top timestamp is a successful ublue-update run about 10 minutes after a fresh reboot. The second is just now.

[2024-01-04 08:51:04,935] ublue_update.cli:INFO | Running update script: /etc/ublue-update.d/user/99-bazzite-arch-user-update.sh
[fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update 
[2024-01-04 09:23:01,567] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | No system update available.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/ublue-update", line 8, in <module>

[2024-01-04 08:51:04,935] ublue_update.cli:INFO | Running update script: /etc/ublue-update.d/user/99-bazzite-arch-user-update.sh
[fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update 
[2024-01-04 09:23:01,567] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | No system update available.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/ublue-update", line 8, in <module>

[2024-01-04 08:51:04,935] ublue_update.cli:INFO | Running update script: /etc/ublue-update.d/user/99-bazzite-arch-user-update.sh
[fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update 
[2024-01-04 09:23:01,567] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | No system update available.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/ublue-update", line 8, in <module>

[2024-01-04 08:51:04,935] ublue_update.cli:INFO | Running update script: /etc/ublue-update.d/user/99-bazzite-arch-user-update.sh
[fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update 
[2024-01-04 09:23:01,567] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | No system update available.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/ublue-update", line 8, in <module>

KKamquat I've noticed that it seems to be time-based somehow. The top timestamp is a succ...

EyeCantCU•1/4/24, 3:37 PM

It's retriggered on failure. I think the issue is it sees it as a battery but it doesn't provide an ACPI path

EyeCantCU•1/4/24, 3:37 PM

There's an open fix but it hasn't been merged quite yet

KamquatOP•1/4/24, 3:38 PM

Then it's got to be my logitech trackball and keyboard, cause that's the only battery-having things.

EEyeCantCU There's an open fix but it hasn't been merged quite yet

KamquatOP•1/4/24, 3:38 PM

Ah okay. will updates working right after boot let me still get the update whenever it comes?

KamquatOP•1/4/24, 3:38 PM

(I shut down at night, so I get a fresh boot daily)

EyeCantCU•1/4/24, 3:40 PM

Unfortunately I don't believe so. Will have to fix this by packaging psutil with the fix. In the meantime, ublue-update --force should do the trick

KamquatOP•1/4/24, 3:40 PM

Okay. Thanks

KamquatOP•1/4/24, 3:41 PM

I still haven't gotten an OS-image update since I installed (to my knowledge), but I've no idea how regular they are or aren't, and it'd only been a few days

EEyeCantCU Unfortunately I don't believe so. Will have to fix this by packaging psutil with...

KamquatOP•1/4/24, 3:41 PM

Yep --force worked.

Jj0rge we only really get the metadata refresh jank

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 5:02 PM

What metadata refresh jank, exactly?

j0rge•1/4/24, 5:06 PM

that spinner that sits there or, when you're browsing the store it immediately goes into refresh mode

Jj0rge that spinner that sits there or, when you're browsing the store it immediately g...

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 5:19 PM

Ahh. Yeah, the fact that it refreshes every 20 seconds or so is extremely problematic

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 5:24 PM

Is there any way to prevent that?

j0rge•1/4/24, 5:39 PM

it's why remove the backends, it's way worse upstream. Someone needs to fix it or someone needs to make a flatpak-native package manager, part of the problem with older tools is they're designed to be pluggable with backends for a bunch of package management systems, etc.

j0rge•1/4/24, 5:39 PM

there's no need for that any more

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 5:45 PM

Ah, hm

EEyeCantCU Unfortunately I don't believe so. Will have to fix this by packaging psutil with...

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 6:00 PM

Can you link me to that fix? I'm happy to do that

KKyle Gospo Can you link me to that fix? I'm happy to do that

EyeCantCU•1/4/24, 6:02 PM

That would be awesome! https://github.com/giampaolo/psutil/pull/2305

Geechan•1/4/24, 6:07 PM

Hey all, just have a quick question. Is it possible to enable the Steam gamescope session on the desktop build, or is it exclusive to the Deck builds? I would like to be able to have gamescope-session connect to my TV when I want to game on my desktop PC (for HDR, etc.), while also being able to use desktop mode the majority of the time. Also wondering if there's any caveats to running the deck build on a desktop setup (with AMD graphics).

I currently have this setup on Arch using gamescope-session-steam from the AUR, and it's working well for me.

GGeechan Hey all, just have a quick question. Is it possible to enable the Steam gamescop...

Noel•1/4/24, 6:14 PM

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but the main difference between the Deck build and the Desktop build is the desktop doesn't ship game scope. I believe you can run the deck version on a desktop if you want to (I tested it in a VM previously and it seemed to work fine)

NNoel Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but the main difference between the Deck bu...

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 6:14 PM

gamescope ships (now), just not the session. Deck builds have gamescope session, autologin, and default to gamescope just as SteamOS does

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 6:15 PM

@Geechan Deck build on desktop is fine/supported, we consider that our HTPC package as well. That being said if you'd rather have control you can also just re-enable the bazzite repos in /etc/yum.repos.d/ and layer gamescope-session-plus and gamescope-session-steam

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 6:15 PM

that way you don't get the autologin stuff

Geechan•1/4/24, 6:16 PM

Good to know, thanks! That was the one thing that was concerning me moving over to Bazzite

Geechan•1/4/24, 6:17 PM

I'll likely layer on the packages then

KamquatOP•1/4/24, 7:35 PM

So this came up - do I just reboot to apply the update?

[fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update --force
[2024-01-04 13:34:32,781] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | System update available.

[fluffles@supernova]~$ ublue-update --force
[2024-01-04 13:34:32,781] ublue_update.update_checks.system:INFO | System update available.

KamquatOP•1/4/24, 7:40 PM

Huh no, I rebooted, ublue-update still says update available. What do I need to do to get said update?

KKamquat So this came up - do I just reboot to apply the update? ```[fluffles@supernova]~...

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 7:48 PM

Rather than have you deal w/ --force to update

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 7:48 PM

I just patched the battery detection issue in the first place

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 7:48 PM

main is building now, when it's done (I can ping you)

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 7:48 PM

simply run rpm-ostree updaterpm-ostree update

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 7:48 PM

and you won't have to worry about it anymore

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 7:48 PM

https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/actions/runs/7414094401

KamquatOP•1/4/24, 7:50 PM

okay thank you!

KKyle Gospo main is building now, when it's done (I can ping you)

KamquatOP•1/4/24, 7:50 PM

Sounds great. I'll await your ping

KKyle Gospo https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/0a4e668

CharlieBros•1/4/24, 8:09 PM

Man, didn't know Linux was on github (makes sense tho), watching the commits is wiiild, fixes for a specific laptop, backing down from a change because it broke compatibility with hardware so ancient it could legally drink in the USA, sheesh

CCharlieBros Man, didn't know Linux was on github (makes sense tho), watching the commits is ...

dreamyuki•1/4/24, 8:33 PM

Well technically its only for backup purpose
Linux development is though mailing list

Ddreamyuki Well technically its only for backup purpose Linux development is though mailing...

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 8:34 PM

I will now send git patches over email

Kyle Gospo•1/4/24, 8:34 PM

KKyle Gospo Click to see attachment

CharlieBros•1/4/24, 8:51 PM

Everytime I see somebody using GNOME and liking it because it's so pretty, I feel fuzzy inside, because is basically a MEXICO MENTIONED moment

KKyle Gospo Click to see attachment

CharlieBros•1/4/24, 8:55 PM

"Pfft, why does GNOME care so much about window decorations", well just look at it

Ttermdisc GNOME has this knack of being frozen in time because the GNOME devs want their v...

CharlieBros•1/4/24, 8:58 PM

The Apple philosophy, sexy, sleek and minimalist from the get go, but that's all you get, which as someone with a mac, iPhone and Watch, y'all can see that I agree with it

KKamquat I sold my deck, barely ever used the thing. It was too large to casually carry a...

CharlieBros•1/4/24, 9:07 PM

I want a Legion Go specially to use at home. I'm a single monitor boi (a 43 inch 4K TV mind you) for work, so if I want to play something while working (which is most of the time), I need to play it full screen, and welp, you see the issue. I bought a gaming PC but windows is awful for multitasking and most things I use for work either half work, or are a PIA to configure (and I'm talking literally just Teams, Skype and Apple Music), I even had a gaming laptop, which I too sold because, well, I hate working in Windows and couldn't for the life of me make the different performance profiles to work on it (Lenovo Ideapad Gaming 3 btw), and it just had the same issues.

So at the end, a gaming laptop is no use for me because it's a hassle to make it work in linux (unless is a kinda expensive one) and a gaming PC doesn't solve my single monitor issue, so, after watching my boyfriend play with his switch while at work, I had the epiphany that indeed, the best format for me, is a Handheld PC.

CCharlieBros The Apple philosophy, sexy, sleek and minimalist from the get go, but that's all...

fiftydinar•1/4/24, 9:17 PM

While their philosophy is similar in that regard, Gnome's execution is much better. Apple is too minimalist while Gnome is in a sweet spot.

Gnome still has great customization options while retaining simplicity & looks.

Not to mention the workspace workflow which is the best out of all of them.

Jj0rge This will become as clutch to us as `just` I think. It's so wobbly windows-like ...

CharlieBros•1/4/24, 9:27 PM

Daaaaamn, that looks really neat

j0rge•1/4/24, 9:30 PM

did you try it?

Ddreamyuki Well technically its only for backup purpose Linux development is though mailing...

CharlieBros•1/4/24, 9:37 PM

I see, that's what I remembered, still, really cool!

Ffiftydinar While their philosophy is similar in that regard, Gnome's execution is much bett...

ChaiQi•1/4/24, 9:37 PM

It always strikes me as odd when people claim that Gnome is not customizable. I tried KDE first, was disappointed, tried Gnome, immediately installed extensions, got what I needed, and continued customizing it far beyond what anything else on any operating system supports

Ffiftydinar While their philosophy is similar in that regard, Gnome's execution is much bett...

CharlieBros•1/4/24, 9:38 PM

I'm a gnome 3 veteran, I remember installing it in a netbook and it ran extremely crappy lmao, once I got a better PC (FX 6100 and HD 6870 my beloved) I constantly chose Gnome above KDE and XFCE, it has always been a delight

CharlieBros•1/4/24, 9:39 PM

I did ran KDE for a time tho, was able to make it look neat and tidy

I've noticed that it seems to be time-based somehow. The top timestamp is a successful ublue-update

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