Sthat's the 'stable' version, you want the 'wip'
Ngrab the latest version in #VPforce-TelemFFB which is linked in the above post
Neither the last post from the github bot or from the downloads site in the pinned messages
SThanks 
BThat just says "unknown" meaning I don't have access to the channel
BSeems discord was having a db hiccup
BJust gave this a whirl and must say it feels quite interesting, a bit nervous perhaps, and I noticed after a flight and tweaking some more settings, if I have my pot or spring settings at around 25% it's fine, but increase it much and pull to max, and then release quickly will trip the motor, mostly my y axis (but this could probably vary) somewhere around 30-40% it would likely trip easily.
Rah yeah, I noticed that once too. I thought I had set something wrong somewhere. Yeah, I know what you mean. Feels like you have to be gentle with it, but I suppose that's what you get from software endstops. As @7hoshino suggested, these settings with hardware endstops would likely work quite well. As you wouldn't be relying on the motors to provide that functionality they would likely have more capacity to act like a strong spring
BDon't think I need much more than a spring force of 25% either so 
, If making endstops I imagine they would need be less than the minimum 10%, but having these would naturally hamper other modules 
, If making endstops I imagine they would need be less than the minimum 10%, but having these would naturally hamper other modules Sadjust friction & damping so that it doesnt go crazy when you release quickly.. might not be able to totally remove the oscillation though
Dsomething I have been meaning to do, get some endstops made.. does anyone know where the 3d files are for them?
BDefinitely feels like a very neat way to fly the viper, and never noticed this during flight, just after and while "messing around"
Dthanks
NTo use when flying a real airplane or for use in a cockpit being turned into a stationary cockpit?
Rdefintely an nice to have would be a variable endstop... like a peice that allows you to slide in endstops without having to replace the whole boot every time...
Dgoing to make endstops for F18
DI was thinking of making the boot attach with neodymium magnets
Dthis way you can remove it easily enough and replace the endstops
FIt will be a simulator, the plane crashed years ago so it'll never be airworthy again.
Ryeah, gotcha, just lift up the boot cover and unscrew the endstops
NThen you’re facing something approximately like what my rig looks like. I built my sim pit a lot like an airplane with a stick so now have to figure out how to add VPF to a fairly plane-like mechanism. It looks like you’re interfacing to yokes. There was at least one example of that here a while back but I forget who posted it. Maybe someone else remembers but it looked pretty good.
FI've searched the discord for "yoke" and most are compact designs.
I've got an advantage of cables that would usually lead between the controls and flight surfaces still being present.
The most basic idea would be to join the cable ends around a sprocket attached to the motor and basically see what happens.
I've got an advantage of cables that would usually lead between the controls and flight surfaces still being present.
The most basic idea would be to join the cable ends around a sprocket attached to the motor and basically see what happens.
Sif you have cables, take a look at my TPR mod in #
knowledge-base - measure how much linear movement you have on the cable and make a pulley with diameter = {measurement}/pi
knowledge-base - measure how much linear movement you have on the cable and make a pulley with diameter = {measurement}/pi
FI was having a read last night, your design work is great. I've generally been more trial and error so it's fascinating to see things designed properly.
原a while ago someone was discussing how to add the motors into the existing control system on a homecockpit made from a real F-15 cockpit.. it's using stick in stead of yoke tho
around here https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1183878971725709373
around here https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1183878971725709373
MSo, for those of y'all that did the DIY rudder pedals/collective, how did you guys do it? Did you start with an existing peripheral like MFGs or Virpil pedals and mount the motors onto that or did you do a completely custom peripheral, up to programming your own control boards?
FPeople made ffb throttles?
MI don't want to discount the idea at all, because it's great to do whatever we want with FFB bases but I wonder if it's not better to have a "normal" ffb even for this plane. In the end, the FFB is supposed to compensate for all the seat-of-the-pants info we are not having, aren't we losing them if we replicate a FSSB?
MMeant collective. I saw it in the settings of the updated TelemFFB software and it piqued my interest.
FAh yes that one
MIn my head, it's a short step from FFB collective to FFB throttles
FIirc people made a custom base and attached virpil cyclic tops
Pyeah you would loose some feedback without the ffb using a fssb, but that's where things like the jetseat or HF8 come in
MHF8 is a game changer. Had mine for like 6 months and can never go back to not having one\
MTrue, it can also be a compromise with other sources of feedback playing a bigger role in the feedback then. 
MDo we know if the HF8 is as good as the jetseat? I missed the jetseat when it was available.
PI'm trying to decide between it or forking out the extra for Andre's jetseat??
MI missed the Jetseat too and so got the HF8 and it's phenominal.
MWhat's the difference?
Pyou can still get it, I'm trying to find the link, I'll post it when I find it, you just go through a 3rd party in Germany or something, fuck sanctions
MMy decision was informed by the international sanctions on international trade with Russia and that's where Andre is IIRC so that made me go with the HF8.
Pwell now that the hf8 can use the same software I'm not really sure, I've heard ppl say the jetseat is stronger?
PI look at those sanctions as for companies, not individuals buying a PC peripheral
MSix of one, half-dozen of the other for me. He's got a company that he sells the peripherals through so rather than risk it, I just went with the HF8.
PI've already been told I can't talk about this stuff here but I'll just say, no one boycotted USA when they invaded Iraq, Afghanistan or Vietnam like this so meh idc, it's for governments to play silly buggers
MDo you need to plug the HF8 via the audio jack to use Andre's software?
PI haven't used either so I can't speak to the quality or motor strength difference, the software I believe is the main difference & now they both use the same "sim shaker for aviators" I believe
MSimShaker for Aviators doesn't require anything but the USB connection to work so I'm going to say no, you don't need an audio plug to make it work with that software
MYeah, from experience, the native HF8 software is still very WIP and was garbage when I used it. I haven't used it since then since Simshaker for Aviators and SimHub both support the HF8 themselves.