Have someone used both free and paid cloudflare? If so what's the difference between speed of cache

Have someone used both free and paid cloudflare? If so what's the difference between speed of cache HIT serving in both.

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:28 AM

Hello

Since multiple years, some competitors are supporting SWR (Stale While Revalidate) directive. Which allow to serve expired content to the user while the POP request fresh content for the next visitor to come.

Cloudflare, on its side still don't support it as confirmed by a CF employee (https://community.cloudflare.com/t/when-will-cloudflare-fully-support-stale-while-revalidate-with-asynchronous-background-revalidation/287764/9).

This feature was blocked by CF technical debt and announced support for Q3 2023, maybe early Q4 2023. (https://community.cloudflare.com/t/support-for-stale-while-revalidate/496788/16)
We're now Q1 2024 and still no news about it.

My team is working on a full rewriting how our application leverage the HTTP cache, and is now just discovering that they can't use this feature which would have allowed us to do something that could work very well.

As an entreprise customer, I really like to know when the feature is finally going to be supported please.

TTristan Hello Since multiple years, some competitors are supporting **SWR** (**Stale W...

Hello, I’m Allie!•1/16/24, 9:32 AM

Is this with Workers or general Proxy? Workers Cache, while not supporting it natively, should be able to do it anyway

HHello, I’m Allie!Is this with Workers or general Proxy? Workers Cache, while not supporting it na...

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:33 AM

General proxy.

TTristan General proxy.

Hello, I’m Allie!•1/16/24, 9:34 AM

As an Enterprise customer, it might go faster if you ask your CSM

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:35 AM

We're entreprise customer but do not have access to a customer success manager (guess to limit increased billing

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Tristan•1/16/24, 9:44 AM

in which settings are you ?

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:45 AM

oh wow. but wait. if this is actually supported (im asking team right now to test it); where is the blog post or updated community post ?

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:47 AM

ok, false alarm, this is activated on our zone, and does not work as intended

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:47 AM

when the cache is expired, the next request takes the time of the origin + the response time of the application

TTristan We're entreprise customer but do not have access to a customer success manager (...

Peps•1/16/24, 9:47 AM

Do you happen to know if you are a "Standard Success" ENT customer?

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:48 AM

exactly like the forum describe. If you do a sleep(10); in your application, and have an expired cache, the next request takes 11 seconds, instead of just hitting a refreshed cache

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:49 AM

(instead of serving expired cache while fetching the fresh version to serve for the next request)

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:49 AM

yes, like the specification for SWR :p

PPeps Do you happen to know if you are a "Standard Success" ENT customer?

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:50 AM

I don't know

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:50 AM

I'm a cheap customer having high expecations I guess

Tristan•1/16/24, 9:50 AM

Tristan•1/16/24, 10:01 AM

I'd be interested to have an answer on cloudflare employee on my question please, when someone is nearby.

Tristan•1/16/24, 10:04 AM

well, if you're going to use that tone Leo, at least use the updated post they made, that I linked in my question

Karew•1/16/24, 10:08 AM

Man, dfabulich in that thread is upsetti spaghetti

TTristan I'd be interested to have an answer on cloudflare employee on my question please...

Peps•1/16/24, 10:52 AM

Best is to create a support ticket if you require an answer from a Cloudflare employee about your technical issue
https://dash.cloudflare.com/?to=/:account/support

Tristan•1/16/24, 10:53 AM

its not my technical issue, it's about the roadmap of cloudflare

Peps•1/16/24, 11:00 AM

Unfortunately public roadmap updates are quite rare, especially right now when most teams are in 'Code Orange', in which all non-critical engineering resources are shifted to improving the reliability of existing products

Testimonial•1/16/24, 11:36 AM

Good morning, again. https://x.com/mutazalshara/status/1747221067155067310?s=46

Testimonial•1/16/24, 11:47 AM

Good morning. Look I'm just reciting what I read. Which was that if you don't have a DNS your ISP reports you. It didn't recite to who. Wether that was big government or big media? Idk did you bother reading the screenies?

TTestimonial Good morning. Look I'm just reciting what I read. Which was that if you don't ha...

Hello, I’m Allie!•1/16/24, 11:48 AM

If you don't have DNS at all, then a lot of the internet just doesn't work

Hello, I’m Allie!•1/16/24, 11:48 AM

That's not how DNS works

Testimonial•1/16/24, 11:49 AM

They wouldn't be able to see anything?

TTestimonial They wouldn't be able to see anything?

Hello, I’m Allie!•1/16/24, 11:49 AM

If you don't have a DNS server, then your app will just throw errors

Hello, I’m Allie!•1/16/24, 11:50 AM

It won't send anything out

Testimonial•1/16/24, 11:50 AM

Your searches

Testimonial•1/16/24, 11:50 AM

Wow.

Testimonial•1/16/24, 11:52 AM

Good morning. Should I turn it off? Or keep it on? Since they deal with 'cpni' (Which are cell towers)? Because I had every civil rights office give me a denial for a submission for them to investigate or look into my matter. C i v i l R i g h t s including all of their appeal boards and inspector generals offices at every agency and department. Then they file a motion to dismiss the matter in court before it was even set for trial. It was to do with gay civil rights.

Testimonial•1/16/24, 11:53 AM

I'm saying if that meant anything since so many of them are on.

AlphaCentauri•1/16/24, 12:08 PM

Are you okay?

Testimonial•1/16/24, 12:10 PM

https://tenor.com/view/its-the-easiest-explanation-that-everyone-will-understand-ian-carter-simplified-easiest-way-easy-to-understand-gif-16516500

Tenor

Testimonial•1/16/24, 12:15 PM

What's not to get?

Testimonial•1/16/24, 12:16 PM

Are you all Americans?

TTestimonial Are you all Americans?

Hello, I’m Allie!•1/16/24, 12:16 PM

TTestimonial What's not to get?

AlphaCentauri•1/16/24, 12:19 PM

None of it makes sense, but I’m picturing you with a tin foil hat on fighting the 5G radio waves and trying to get ‘a DNS’ to keep the FBI at bay

AlphaCentauri•1/16/24, 12:19 PM

Am I close?

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ⱤØ₥₳₦OP•1/16/24, 12:20 PM

Is it a forbidden topic to talk about?

AAlphaCentauri Are you okay?

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AlphaCentauri•1/16/24, 12:23 PM

If you’re actually being serious, that Verizon app is just allowing you to opt out of standard telemetry which you can do if it makes you feel better, but it has nothing to do with DNS, civil rights, MLK Jr, or anything else relating to the government

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Karew•1/16/24, 12:24 PM

There is no cache or speed difference between the paid and free plans AFAIK. But you also have to make sure you are actually using the cache (based on your file types and size)

Hello, I’m Allie!•1/16/24, 12:24 PM

I think we've gotten pretty off-topic here. Please try to keep this conversation about Cloudflare and its products