Yes, agree, working through that now. When I get something that works and I think is repeatable, I'

Yes, agree, working through that now. When I get something that works and I think is repeatable, I'll post my settings for the F-14.
DCS system base - Use FFB - Checked
DCS F14 special use FFB Trim - Checked
DCS F14 Controls - VPForce stick - FFB Tune settings: Trimmer - TBD and Shake - TBD
VPForce Config: Settings TBD [Master TBD, Spring TBD, Damper TBD, Inertia TBD, Friction TBD, Constant TBD]
VPForce Config: Effects TBD [Spring OFF, Damper OFF, Inertial Off, Friction Off, End Stops As Needed, Hardware Force Trim Off, etc... as needed]
VPForce TelemFFB Config: TBD

Oh the joys of troubleshooting

Duchess ✈•1/18/24, 12:24 AM

Awesome stuff. So full disclosure, I rarely, rarely, rarely ever fly the F-14. Did I say rarely? I mainly fly the F-15E, sometimes A-10 and F-5. Of course with the F-4E coming out, I will add that to my stable. I also fly the Apache and the F-16. I have the F-16 covered, and will work on the Apache after I get the fixed wing done. The effects are not the issue for me UNLESS having them turned up is turning the rhino base off, which is what is happening.

smitty•1/18/24, 12:25 AM

i've found that the spring and damper LPF frequencies should not be evenly dividable. otherwise they tend to 'line up' and makes it worse. i see in your case the spring is 4hz and damper 8hz.. try spring 3hz and damper 10hz

Duchess ✈•1/18/24, 12:26 AM

Also, sorry for the poor screenie, I took it with my phone.

WWingOver Yes, agree, working through that now. When I get something that works and I thi...

Dr. No•1/18/24, 12:36 AM

I look forward to your settings

DDuchess ✈Here are my settings now. I backed them off a bit from the default config.

amadeus•1/18/24, 12:38 AM

Can you post a screenshot of the other effects tab

Duchess ✈•1/18/24, 12:47 AM

I will.. inertia,, spring, damper and limiter are checked.

Torattacker•1/18/24, 1:48 AM

Hello,i just find i cant use my stick to control the plane in il2 bos.

Torattacker•1/18/24, 1:48 AM

Torattacker•1/18/24, 1:49 AM

i moved the axis_X,axis_Y,then i find it didnt work.

ddrake1984•1/18/24, 2:49 AM

first thing I always ask people to check is how many devices they have attached

ddrake1984•1/18/24, 2:51 AM

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/72473-so-you-went-and-bought-too-many-peripherals/

IL-2 Sturmovik Forum

So you went and bought too many peripherals...

Il-2 supports up to 8 devices. It's possible to exceed that limit, either because you have multiple vjoy devices, have racing gear attached in addition to your flight hardware, or maybe you just went a little wild building your home cockpit. This is a short guide to fixing that problem. If You On...

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walmis•1/18/24, 6:49 AM

Try setting more conservative filter values, to get it more stable:
Spring 2Hz,
Damper 4Hz,
Inertia 3Hz,
Friction 3Hz

SSunshine @walmis do you have shipping date for order #612?

walmis•1/18/24, 6:50 AM

Yes, today

harf4ng•1/18/24, 8:38 AM

hi, it is possible to invert axis if I want the base to be the other side right? And then, it is saved in the firmware? In the device itself? (talking about the rhino base)

Hharf4ng hi, it is possible to invert axis if I want the base to be the other side right?...

walmis•1/18/24, 9:31 AM

Everything you set in the configurator is saved in firmware - so yes

harf4ng•1/18/24, 9:32 AM

ok thanks. Waiting for some extensions from virpil (available in february), but then I think according to the place I'll put the base, I'll need the base to be the other side to have access to buttons

Reed•1/18/24, 4:13 PM

@walmis did we ever get a best possible default settings profile posted?

Reed•1/18/24, 4:13 PM

I don’t remember seeing it.

Reed•1/18/24, 4:14 PM

For example. The hz you just posted don’t match my default profile.

walmis•1/18/24, 4:20 PM

There's no "best" profile, it all depends on the physical configuration - grip, weight, extension, etc.

Duchess ✈•1/18/24, 5:41 PM

Remarkable improvement by moving the filter values to the settings Walmis suggested. I still feel like it is a little off, but that is more of a “setting” thing I think. And I have not tried “yanking and banking” yet, but it seems to be ho,ding together.

Wwalmis Yes, today 🙂

Sunshine•1/18/24, 6:12 PM

Thank you

DDuchess ✈The F-15E feels really loosely-goosey in the stick unless I crank everything up....

Mustang•1/18/24, 8:46 PM

I started flying the Strike with the Rhino and also noticed it was pretty loose especially around the center making refueling harder. Did you manage to get your settings dialed in for it?

MMustang I started flying the Strike with the Rhino and also noticed it was pretty loose ...

Duchess ✈•1/18/24, 8:49 PM

Using Walmis’ recommendations, I have changed the filters, it feels better, but going past a certain point, it gets really, really “loose”, kind of the opposite of spring resistance where a spring joystick wants to return to center, the stick now gets to a point when pulling back and it wants to remain pulled back or actually go further. I have seen some settings for TelemFFB for the F-15E, but they are part of the “slider” UI and I do not seem to be able to find out how to access that yet.

Mustang•1/18/24, 8:56 PM

Gotcha. Yeah I'm still not smart enough on all the settings to know how to help with that. lol

amadeus•1/18/24, 9:18 PM

have you tried with adaptive re-centering on?

Hunchy•1/18/24, 9:42 PM

Strange, I am not getting any native FFB on DCS, despite having activated it in the Options menu. None of my Effects are on "Sticky" so native FFB is not being over ridden. Feedback from TelemFFB works fine though.

Bob Bushman•1/18/24, 9:43 PM

What module?

Hunchy•1/18/24, 9:47 PM

Modules with native FFB like the F-14, P-47 and Huey

Hunchy•1/18/24, 9:49 PM

From what I understand, base should lose all effects when DCS loads, this doesn't happen

JRMITCH•1/18/24, 9:56 PM

@walmis in the process of trying to move a DIY grip from a Arduino Micro to the 32 shift register you sent me, is there any info on how to properly wire this up? I have looked all over the discord for something.

Aamadeus have you tried with adaptive re-centering on?

Duchess ✈•1/18/24, 9:58 PM

Yes, I unchecked it this morning when i brought down the filters... I will try it again.

mechsicko•1/19/24, 4:46 AM

I'm having an issue I hope is just me missing something simple. I have Rhino kit #1, which I just updated to the most current software. WEBUSB Tool connects, no option to update firmware so assuming that's up to date now.? VP Force software sees when its USB connected but motors status offline and neither webusb tool or vp force register position.

In windows game controller settings it shows up and the position can be read there. The motors seem happy as the cogging disappears when connected/powered.

recoilfx•1/19/24, 5:25 AM

Do you mean you can see the axis moving using joy.col but not at the vpforce configurator? That’s strange. I had an issue where the configurator kept saying motor offline, but there was no cogging at the motor . Turned out one of the serial wires to the motor was fraying at the connector. I re-crimped the wire and everything is ok again.

mechsicko•1/19/24, 5:33 AM

Can see axes moving in Windows Game Controller Settings but not vpforce configurator. I need to doublecheck those connections, plugging in one of the serials was a little janky maybe that's the problem

Mmechsicko Can see axes moving in Windows Game Controller Settings but not vpforce configur...

walmis•1/19/24, 5:34 AM

Does the configurator show anything else? Like the cycle_time should be updating

mechsicko•1/19/24, 5:35 AM

On the configurator all I can see is that USB is connected, no other signs of life

walmis•1/19/24, 5:37 AM

That's strange, you did get the latest configurator, right?

mechsicko•1/19/24, 5:39 AM

I'm on 1.0.16-1

walmis•1/19/24, 5:40 AM

Can you screenshot the webusb page?

mechsicko•1/19/24, 5:42 AM

walmis•1/19/24, 5:43 AM

Ah, crap, it thinks you have a newer firmware

walmis•1/19/24, 5:43 AM

Will fix it asap

mechsicko•1/19/24, 5:44 AM

Awesome much appreciated

Mmechsicko Awesome much appreciated

walmis•1/19/24, 7:16 AM

Fix pushed

mechsicko•1/19/24, 7:22 AM

Whoa didn't think you were doing this like right now :p

webusb now tracks position but I get an error trying to launch vpforce configurator

mechsicko•1/19/24, 7:22 AM

Error:LIBUSB_TRANSFER_ERROR

mechsicko•1/19/24, 7:23 AM

Commandline Processing Error

mechsicko•1/19/24, 7:39 AM

No longer throwing that error but when vpforce config is up it's back to usb connected but nothing else. webusb seems sorted and I'll call that progress for the time being! Close to bedtime for me now though

WWingOver DCS-F14-AP-Alt Hold - won't lock in / hold alt select alt with in game F14 speci...

Activity•1/19/24, 9:26 AM

Were you able to resolve the AP issue? I’ll give it a test later today but last time I had some trouble getting it to catch alt hold

Yes, agree, working through that now. When I get something that works and I think is repeatable, I'

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