hi, it is possible to invert axis if I want the base to be the other side right? And then, it is sav

hi, it is possible to invert axis if I want the base to be the other side right? And then, it is saved in the firmware? In the device itself? (talking about the rhino base)

Hharf4ng hi, it is possible to invert axis if I want the base to be the other side right?...

walmis•1/18/24, 9:31 AM

Everything you set in the configurator is saved in firmware - so yes

harf4ngOP•1/18/24, 9:32 AM

ok thanks. Waiting for some extensions from virpil (available in february), but then I think according to the place I'll put the base, I'll need the base to be the other side to have access to buttons

Reed•1/18/24, 4:13 PM

@walmis did we ever get a best possible default settings profile posted?

Reed•1/18/24, 4:13 PM

I don’t remember seeing it.

Reed•1/18/24, 4:14 PM

For example. The hz you just posted don’t match my default profile.

walmis•1/18/24, 4:20 PM

There's no "best" profile, it all depends on the physical configuration - grip, weight, extension, etc.

Duchess ✈•1/18/24, 5:41 PM

Remarkable improvement by moving the filter values to the settings Walmis suggested. I still feel like it is a little off, but that is more of a “setting” thing I think. And I have not tried “yanking and banking” yet, but it seems to be ho,ding together.

Wwalmis Yes, today 🙂

Sunshine•1/18/24, 6:12 PM

Thank you

DDuchess ✈The F-15E feels really loosely-goosey in the stick unless I crank everything up....

Mustang•1/18/24, 8:46 PM

I started flying the Strike with the Rhino and also noticed it was pretty loose especially around the center making refueling harder. Did you manage to get your settings dialed in for it?

MMustang I started flying the Strike with the Rhino and also noticed it was pretty loose ...

Duchess ✈•1/18/24, 8:49 PM

Using Walmis’ recommendations, I have changed the filters, it feels better, but going past a certain point, it gets really, really “loose”, kind of the opposite of spring resistance where a spring joystick wants to return to center, the stick now gets to a point when pulling back and it wants to remain pulled back or actually go further. I have seen some settings for TelemFFB for the F-15E, but they are part of the “slider” UI and I do not seem to be able to find out how to access that yet.

Mustang•1/18/24, 8:56 PM

Gotcha. Yeah I'm still not smart enough on all the settings to know how to help with that. lol

amadeus•1/18/24, 9:18 PM

have you tried with adaptive re-centering on?

Hunchy•1/18/24, 9:42 PM

Strange, I am not getting any native FFB on DCS, despite having activated it in the Options menu. None of my Effects are on "Sticky" so native FFB is not being over ridden. Feedback from TelemFFB works fine though.

Bob Bushman•1/18/24, 9:43 PM

What module?

Hunchy•1/18/24, 9:47 PM

Modules with native FFB like the F-14, P-47 and Huey

Hunchy•1/18/24, 9:49 PM

From what I understand, base should lose all effects when DCS loads, this doesn't happen

JRMITCH•1/18/24, 9:56 PM

@walmis in the process of trying to move a DIY grip from a Arduino Micro to the 32 shift register you sent me, is there any info on how to properly wire this up? I have looked all over the discord for something.

Aamadeus have you tried with adaptive re-centering on?

Duchess ✈•1/18/24, 9:58 PM

Yes, I unchecked it this morning when i brought down the filters... I will try it again.

mechsicko•1/19/24, 4:46 AM

I'm having an issue I hope is just me missing something simple. I have Rhino kit #1, which I just updated to the most current software. WEBUSB Tool connects, no option to update firmware so assuming that's up to date now.? VP Force software sees when its USB connected but motors status offline and neither webusb tool or vp force register position.

In windows game controller settings it shows up and the position can be read there. The motors seem happy as the cogging disappears when connected/powered.

recoilfx•1/19/24, 5:25 AM

Do you mean you can see the axis moving using joy.col but not at the vpforce configurator? That’s strange. I had an issue where the configurator kept saying motor offline, but there was no cogging at the motor . Turned out one of the serial wires to the motor was fraying at the connector. I re-crimped the wire and everything is ok again.

mechsicko•1/19/24, 5:33 AM

Can see axes moving in Windows Game Controller Settings but not vpforce configurator. I need to doublecheck those connections, plugging in one of the serials was a little janky maybe that's the problem

Mmechsicko Can see axes moving in Windows Game Controller Settings but not vpforce configur...

walmis•1/19/24, 5:34 AM

Does the configurator show anything else? Like the cycle_time should be updating

mechsicko•1/19/24, 5:35 AM

On the configurator all I can see is that USB is connected, no other signs of life

walmis•1/19/24, 5:37 AM

That's strange, you did get the latest configurator, right?

mechsicko•1/19/24, 5:39 AM

I'm on 1.0.16-1

walmis•1/19/24, 5:40 AM

Can you screenshot the webusb page?

mechsicko•1/19/24, 5:42 AM

walmis•1/19/24, 5:43 AM

Ah, crap, it thinks you have a newer firmware

walmis•1/19/24, 5:43 AM

Will fix it asap

mechsicko•1/19/24, 5:44 AM

Awesome much appreciated

Mmechsicko Awesome much appreciated

walmis•1/19/24, 7:16 AM

Fix pushed

mechsicko•1/19/24, 7:22 AM

Whoa didn't think you were doing this like right now :p

webusb now tracks position but I get an error trying to launch vpforce configurator

mechsicko•1/19/24, 7:22 AM

Error:LIBUSB_TRANSFER_ERROR

mechsicko•1/19/24, 7:23 AM

Commandline Processing Error

mechsicko•1/19/24, 7:39 AM

No longer throwing that error but when vpforce config is up it's back to usb connected but nothing else. webusb seems sorted and I'll call that progress for the time being! Close to bedtime for me now though

WWingOver DCS-F14-AP-Alt Hold - won't lock in / hold alt select alt with in game F14 speci...

Activity•1/19/24, 9:26 AM

Were you able to resolve the AP issue? I’ll give it a test later today but last time I had some trouble getting it to catch alt hold

AActivity Were you able to resolve the AP issue? I’ll give it a test later today but last ...

WingOver•1/19/24, 10:19 PM

Still troubleshooting - details in thread here: 🧰supportI look forward to your settings ☺

WingOver•1/19/24, 10:25 PM

Cursory review requested - feedback welcome - this is the VPForce FFB Config that I'm using as my default helo profile. (VPForce Rhino + 75mm extension) [Note: for max motor current and max psu I have intentionally set them down to ~85% of max]

Fierce_Fire•1/20/24, 11:51 AM

So ive been thinking about this for a while, is the "deadzone" in the force feedback intentional? The motors seem to pick up the slightest movement just fine but within the green circle visible in the configurator theres not really any spring action happening, so i was wondering if that was intentional or a artifact from my design, and if its intentional if this is configurable

FFierce_Fire So ive been thinking about this for a while, is the "deadzone" in the force feed...

walmis•1/20/24, 12:19 PM

It's very small around the center since the force is proportional to deflection.
You can use the spring mapping to increase the gain near the center, something like:

Fierce_Fire•1/20/24, 12:19 PM

I see, ill try that

Wwalmis It's very small around the center since the force is proportional to deflection....

Mustang•1/20/24, 5:38 PM

Hey Walmis, I just tried that and it seems that it starts some sort of feedback loop that sends the stick moving in all directions without any input. The effect seems to be more magnified when damper and inertia are enabled but even with just spring force it still happens.

MMustang Hey Walmis, I just tried that and it seems that it starts some sort of feedback ...

walmis•1/20/24, 5:42 PM

Yeah, it's a bit different for the big motor kit. It needs to be tuned - too high gains will cause oscillations.

Mustang•1/20/24, 5:44 PM

Ah, ok. So Should I just start with a smaller gain or is there another solution? Because I'm also trying to tighten up the center a little bit.

walmis•1/20/24, 5:45 PM

This one works well on my Rhino:

MMustang Hey Walmis, I just tried that and it seems that it starts some sort of feedback ...

walmis•1/20/24, 5:46 PM

Set deadband to zero also

Mustang•1/20/24, 5:57 PM

Ok will do. I'll keep messing with the settings. Thanks for your help!

JOSGEM•1/20/24, 8:54 PM

Hello, the rhino thread is worn out and when trying to attach the f18 stick it is impossible to adjust it and it oscillates. Is there any way to solve it?

Sunshine•1/20/24, 9:02 PM

Print a new one

JOSGEM•1/20/24, 9:05 PM

I have little knowledge about it. Where can I get the characteristics of the part to be printed?

hi, it is possible to invert axis if I want the base to be the other side right? And then, it is sav

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