Universal Blue•2y ago

Learning how to use distrobox. Is there a performance impact when running games through containers?

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:16 AM

Or anything i should be worried about or watch out for?

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:16 AM

Any advice is appreciated

TTyberius Learning how to use distrobox. Is there a performance impact when running games ...

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:21 AM

There is a minor performance impact, but generally its not noticeable in Distrobox (sadly that's not the case for the steam flatpak thanks to a bug)

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:21 AM

Wdym?

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:22 AM

In all reality I'm not going to be running steam games through distro box

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:22 AM

iirc the steam flatpak (also a container) has a bug that leads to more noticeable performance hits, hence why Bazzite layers it onto the image instead of preinstalling the flatpak

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:22 AM

Oh ok

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:23 AM

But distrobox doesn't have that issue in my experience, so you should get near native performance

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:23 AM

Nice

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:23 AM

Compatibility issues, like would anything be buggy or not work?

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:23 AM

I'm running an arch container

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:24 AM

I think you need to install feral gamemode on both the host and the container to use it

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:24 AM

If you get proton issues, you may need to add the flags used in bazzite-arch, but I think distrobox has patched them now

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:25 AM

Is bazzite arch a container?

DDajix If you get proton issues, you may need to add the flags used in bazzite-arch, bu...

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:25 AM

(As in

--unshare-netns

--unshare-netns

)

TTyberius Is bazzite arch a container?

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:25 AM

Yeah, its pretty much an arch container with gaming stuff preinstalled, like steam and lutris

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:26 AM

So would you recommend that instead of just arch

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:26 AM

It used to be preinstalled in Bazzite, although its no longer recommended since it had some issues, especially on nvidia GPUs

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:26 AM

Well I'm on bazzite-deck

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:26 AM

So AMD

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:27 AM

So would you say a normal arch container would be better?

Geechan•1/27/24, 2:27 AM

Stick to bazzite-deck and use a normal Arch container for your needs

TTyberius So would you say a normal arch container would be better?

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:28 AM

Not sure, havent ever used Bazzite-arch outside of nvidia

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:28 AM

The motivations for this in the first place is that any other package manager other than pacman, yay, flatpak, that I've tried in bazzite has not been a good experience at all for me

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:29 AM

Plan is to first try and see if I can get a flatpak for a program and install on bazzite and if there isn't, I'll install it on the arch container

Geechan•1/27/24, 2:29 AM

Just use whatever container that gives you the software you need, really

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:29 AM

True

Geechan•1/27/24, 2:29 AM

It's recommended to do distrobox > rpm-ostree layering anyway if you can help it

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:29 AM

Yep, thats generally the way to go, flatpak first (other than steam), and distroboxes for everything else

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:30 AM

I tried rpm-ostree and it was so slow I wanted to kms

Geechan•1/27/24, 2:30 AM

Flatpaks for GUI, distrobox for CLI and misc software

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:30 AM

And I had to restart the deck every time

Geechan•1/27/24, 2:30 AM

You should only use rpm-ostree for packages that don't play nicely in distrobox (such as VPN software)

Geechan•1/27/24, 2:30 AM

Stick to a minimal amount of additional layered packages

TTyberius And I had to restart the deck every time

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:30 AM

You can --apply-live--apply-live to install software to the live system without rebooting btw

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:31 AM

Oh cool

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:32 AM

Still would rather avoid using it lol

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:32 AM

But listen to @Geechan said

Geechan•1/27/24, 2:32 AM

The reason it takes so long btw is because it's effectively rebuilding your system image each time you layer a new package

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:32 AM

Use it as little as possible

Geechan•1/27/24, 2:32 AM

That is computationally expensive

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:33 AM

All I have layered is qemu (and its dependencies) and mullvad

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:33 AM

(Fuck, why does qemu have so many dependencies)

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:33 AM

Does rpm-ostree automatically install dependencies?

TyberiusOP•1/27/24, 2:33 AM

Or do you have to like figure it out

DDajix (Fuck, why does qemu have so many dependencies)

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:33 AM

oh and also the dependencies for auto-cpufreqauto-cpufreq

Geechan•1/27/24, 2:34 AM

Likewise. I have QEMU, a language input library, and my shell layered (zsh)

TTyberius Does rpm-ostree automatically install dependencies?

Geechan•1/27/24, 2:34 AM

It's automatic

TTyberius Does rpm-ostree automatically install dependencies?

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:34 AM

If you rpm-ostree install qemurpm-ostree install qemu, it'll handle them

GGeechan Likewise. I have QEMU, a language input library, and my shell layered (zsh)

Dajix•1/27/24, 2:34 AM

I highly recommend getting a shell through nix

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