hello, quick question here, getting a warning about a trojan virus in the VPforce TelemFFB WIP... i

hello, quick question here, getting a warning about a trojan virus in the VPforce TelemFFB WIP... i don't think it actually has it, but has anyone else experienced?

CCaprice hello, quick question here, getting a warning about a trojan virus in the VPforc...

walmis•1/29/24, 9:26 AM

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Wwalmis https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/968208779084701716/1194368076104...

CapriceOP•1/29/24, 9:27 AM

thanks

CapriceOP•1/29/24, 9:58 AM

one smaller question, noticing that the Mi-8 in DCS is not holding the trimmer button, anyone experienced? Both the Mi-24 and KA-50 are working just fine. Also I have special setting FFB stick turned on.

CapriceOP•1/29/24, 10:03 AM

maybe this module doesnt support force feedback? would be sad for a helo

walmis•1/29/24, 10:08 AM

Check the trimmer mode in DCS module special settings, maybe that's the culprit

Wwalmis Check the trimmer mode in DCS module special settings, maybe that's the culprit

CapriceOP•1/29/24, 10:19 AM

set correctly to joystick without springs and force feedback, still have the issue with that setting on.

walmis•1/29/24, 10:29 AM

You need to set to instant trimmer

walmis•1/29/24, 10:30 AM

That setting means -without- springs and -without- ffb

WWiz Hi all, Received my Rhino today and have installed everything (VKB MCGU, 10cm e...

Wiz•1/29/24, 12:51 PM

I just wanted to publicly acknowledge @walmis for spending some time helping me problem solve this one. It looks like a USB port was playing up. Everything is working fine

FFer Hello, I have a problem with my winwing adapter I can’t secure the adapter in po...

Pikas62•1/29/24, 1:28 PM

Did the rubber washer solve your problem?

Fer•1/29/24, 3:59 PM

yes @Pikas62, thanks for asking.

neok•1/29/24, 9:51 PM

I updated TelemFFB to the new version. now after a restart my shortcut is gone. where is the actual installation now? the previous installed folder has only a couple of files and no exe??

neok•1/29/24, 10:01 PM

downloaded the latest version and getting this now...

neok•1/29/24, 10:02 PM

TrigaNZ•1/29/24, 10:04 PM

I had this yesterday. Exempt the folder your FFB is in and run the updater again.

neok•1/29/24, 10:05 PM

Looks like windows keeps deleting the eye

neok•1/29/24, 10:05 PM

Exe

TrigaNZ•1/29/24, 10:05 PM

Yep

neok•1/29/24, 10:05 PM

How do I exempt the folder?

TrigaNZ•1/29/24, 10:05 PM

Go to Start > Settings > Update & Security > Windows Security > Virus & threat protection. Under Virus & threat protection settings, select Manage settings, and then under Exclusions, select Add or remove exclusions. Select Add an exclusion, and then select from files, folders, file types, or process.

TrigaNZ•1/29/24, 10:06 PM

I have all my VPForce/FFB stuff in one folder, so I just exempt the folder and viola.

neok•1/29/24, 10:10 PM

Thanks a lot that worked

neok•1/29/24, 10:10 PM

Where are my settings now actually saved?

neok•1/29/24, 10:10 PM

In the export lua?

Nneok Where are my settings now actually saved?

Number481•1/29/24, 10:16 PM

It’s all covered in the manual (section 4.2) including info on migrating old settings file to the new framework.

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1YL5DLkiTxlaNx_zKHEYSs25PjmGtQ6_WZDk58_SGt8Y/mobilebasic#h.ghj8phqmqr7y

neok•1/29/24, 10:31 PM

cheers

ddrake1984•1/30/24, 9:20 AM

Im wondering what is causing windows to think this is a virus and threat?

Dddrake1984 Im wondering what is causing windows to think this is a virus and threat?

Number481•1/30/24, 12:06 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1093558100713279508/1201507239064768572

JakeSixx33 | 744 |•1/30/24, 1:06 PM

@walmis VP is my first ever use of Python on my PCs and within my network. This article suggests Python can be used against us. How are we protected and how can we protect from the issues in this article? Thanks. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/windows-pcs-are-now-being-hit-by-dangerous-malware-here-s-the-steps-you-need-to-take-to-stay-safe/ar-BB1hrlVF?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=a0947bf222984375a66464bb7e2eaa14&ei=76

JJakeSixx33 | 744 |@walmis VP is my first ever use of Python on my PCs and within my network. This ...

Number481•1/30/24, 1:19 PM

this article is moslty clickbait. Do you actually have the python interpreter installed on your machine? Are you downloading random obscure python libraries from pypi? If not.. nothing to worry about.

JJakeSixx33 | 744 |@walmis VP is my first ever use of Python on my PCs and within my network. This ...

Bob Bushman•1/30/24, 1:20 PM

I can pretty much guarantee this is not the first time you use python application. It's a very common programming language.

That article, I don't know what that is doing besides trying to scare grandmother's

smitty•1/30/24, 1:21 PM

BREAKING NEWS: hackers use programming languages to write malware

Bob Bushman•1/30/24, 1:22 PM

Not to mention they found almost a dozen.

almost a dozen

Bob Bushman•1/30/24, 1:24 PM

Bet there is more malicious things in github, but we can't talk about that since, ms owns that.

NNumber481 this article is moslty clickbait. Do you actually have the python interpreter i...

JakeSixx33 | 744 |•1/30/24, 1:28 PM

@Number481 You are taking the question as an accusation. Please don't. I don't understand how Python works completely, but do understand rather high level access is granted to the applications. Inadvertently a problem could be introduced by using pre infected code without intent. @TorTorden I can guarantee I never used it because I needed to download it to start using Telem. Again there are no accusations being made at anyone and I fully appreciate the efforts of @Number481 and all other contributors.

smitty•1/30/24, 1:29 PM

you can download the exe of TelemFFB so you dont need Python on your pc.

Bob Bushman•1/30/24, 1:29 PM

I can absolutely see how those big warnings from the os are scary, they are designed to be.
But mostly they just trip cause someone hasn't paid them the licensing fee.

You don't need 'python' to run Telemffb, you download the exe and run it like any other program

Ssmitty you can download the exe of TelemFFB so you dont need Python on your pc.

JakeSixx33 | 744 |•1/30/24, 1:29 PM

that has python embedded

Bob Bushman•1/30/24, 1:30 PM

Like so many other applications, most you don't even know.

JJakeSixx33 | 744 |that has python embedded

smitty•1/30/24, 1:37 PM

..which will only run the compiled code included, and was made on a pc that does not have infected libraries.

like the article says, you'd have to go out of your way to install weird libraries yourself and write your own python code for this to be an issue

Number481•1/30/24, 1:37 PM

If you are truly concerned about the TelemFFB executable in general, you can research the libraries which are used that actually come from pypi.. they are all listed in the requirements.txt file in the repository.

pyqt5pyqt5
- Used for the GUI interface
configobjconfigobj
- Used for managing configuration files in a structured way
pysimconnect @ https://github.com/walmis/pysimconnect/archive/refs/heads/master.zippysimconnect @ https://github.com/walmis/pysimconnect/archive/refs/heads/master.zip
- Used for communication with MSFS
traceback_with_variablestraceback_with_variables
- Used for printing useful information when errors occur
libusb1libusb1
- Used for interfacing with the Rhino
pygetwindowpygetwindow
- Used for dealing with weird FFB effect behavior when IL-2 loses window focus
```
requests
```
```
requests
```
- Used for HTTP communications to the build server to find/get latest version info
  Every thing else that is used in the code is part of the standard python distribution.

AndyHill•1/30/24, 2:21 PM

python is one of if not the most popular programming language today

JJakeSixx33 | 744 |@Number481 You are taking the question as an accusation. Please don't. I don't u...

Fierce_Fire•1/30/24, 3:56 PM

Python is a widely used programming language that can use packets of other's code very easy, which is why most use it as they don't have to write that stuff themselves. I can guarantee some program you once used was made using python, you just never saw that.

NNumber481 https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1093558100713279508/120150723906...

ddrake1984•1/30/24, 8:19 PM

Ah thanks, are there any other converters that could work? Signed cert is ideal, but this is open source after all

Number481•1/30/24, 8:27 PM

There are other "code freezing" utilities that can generate an exe similar to pyinstaller.. but afaik, they all have the same issue to one degree or another and I dont think any others are as flexible as pyinstaller is.

While a signed cert would remove the need for people to add an exception to their AV, it really amounts to the same thing. Just because a program is signed, doesn't mean its safe. It just means the author says its safe. Adding an exception to the install folder will cause the AV to ignore the folder.. i guess similar to how it would if it was signed. But then I am not a real application developer, so that could be partially or completely inaccurate.

Number481•1/30/24, 8:28 PM

There should be a new version of TelemFFB soon that hopefully will generate an exe that doesn't get flagged.. and then we can wait until the next time it happens to have all these conversations again

ddrake1984•1/30/24, 8:29 PM

Is the code verified by other members before it is published? Just wondering if an extra pair of eyes could glance the code to ensure there is nothing suspicious? I am not a coder either, and am cautious about running an executable that isnt properly verified

Dddrake1984 Is the code verified by other members before it is published? Just wondering if ...

Number481•1/30/24, 8:33 PM

Its not, no.. The only assurance I can give is that I wouldn't know how to write a virus even if I wanted to

Stains•1/30/24, 10:19 PM

If my joystick is mining Dogecoins, at least give me a cut!

SStains If my joystick is mining Dogecoins, at least give me a cut!

aniron•1/31/24, 12:24 PM

Once Rhino #0481 has been shipped, Number481 will activate the malicious code and all of them will proceed to whack... ^^

https://youtu.be/LCm1Q8cK4l0?si=VFD3UvQLcvZOOIjG

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*Whack* fuck

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