So Is it like a lotto ticket for stable motors? Because this are settings from profile share... I re

So Is it like a lotto ticket for stable motors? Because this are settings from profile share... I really love the vpforce, it's a beast

but i try to understand why i can not use 3 out of 5 profile share settings

Sscheppie_So Is it like a lotto ticket for stable motors? Because this are settings from p...

PiNKSH!T•2/14/24, 8:09 AM

I wonder that about the different settings some ppl have compared to others too. It also seems to me that my x axis motor will be the one to shudder & cut out more than the y axis when I experiment with setting changes.

mark turner•2/14/24, 10:10 AM

How do you edit and save values in an existing vpconf file? I have edited some values in some of mine and they appear to get saved to devices memory when you press store and apply, rather than the actual vpconf file. So when I fly the module again, it automatically loads the previous unedited version. Thanks

walmis•2/14/24, 10:11 AM

You need to export the settings into a file again

mark turner•2/14/24, 10:19 AM

SR-F Wofei•2/14/24, 1:22 PM

hi, i got my rhino diy build. the axis are shown, but the grip will not work. I tried Thrustmater Warthog Grip and a Virpil grip. I measured the pins from Connector to connector, all cables are Ok.

walmis•2/14/24, 1:26 PM

Are you 100% sure the pinout is correct?

SR-F Wofei•2/14/24, 1:50 PM

yeah, i found the failure the wrong stick was configured. sorry

PPiNKSH!T I wonder that about the different settings some ppl have compared to others too....

Fierce_Fire•2/14/24, 6:41 PM

I assume grip matters a lot, mine is like 2x as heavy as its plastic variant

buzzbomb•2/14/24, 7:52 PM

i submitted a pre-order from on the 11th of feb. when i run the info command with my email address i get "The application did not respond" Is the app down or is my pre-order not in the system yet?

Wwalmis I know a few RS users that successfully use their grips, so this instance is kin...

Brizzly•2/15/24, 2:19 AM

Can you confirm which grip type I should select?

Caprice•2/15/24, 2:43 AM

Hello, very much enjoying my Rhino. Have noticed some clicking when pushing against it even with fairly gentle pressure. I can record a video to document this if needed. It seems mechanical.

CCaprice Hello, very much enjoying my Rhino. Have noticed some clicking when pushing agai...

Asdforce•2/15/24, 3:24 AM

I had some clicks/clunks when moving against spring forces. Also a slight nudge could be felt on the stick. Eneded up being the bolts on the big pulleys. I tightened each by 1/8 turn and it's better now.

AAsdforce I had some clicks/clunks when moving against spring forces. Also a slight nudge ...

Caprice•2/15/24, 3:37 AM

thank you, are those the ones that hold in the belts on the outside?

Asdforce•2/15/24, 3:40 AM

You're welcome. Yep, five bolts on each pulley. Hopefully it's that simple and not something else.

luap14.•2/15/24, 9:35 AM

Hello has anyone a good recomendation for whear to metall 3d printing the Joystick mount

Bbuzzbomb i submitted a pre-order from on the 11th of feb. when i run the info command wi...

walmis•2/15/24, 11:46 AM

You can try again

Swoop•2/15/24, 12:44 PM

Hey all - building my own DIY Rhino and have got to the point where i need to order steppers and USB interface. Any advice on which ones to go for?

SSwoop Hey all - building my own DIY Rhino and have got to the point where i need to or...

TheAmazinGreat•2/15/24, 1:57 PM

If you are building from the files that are getting shared here, most, if not all, of them are only designed for the 57 series motors. The big motors won’t fit the same housing.

Swoop•2/15/24, 1:58 PM

Perfect! Thanks @TheAmazinGreat. Final thing, The Thrustmaster warthog grip works as standard doesnt it? I dont need an adapter or anything?

MichalK•2/15/24, 2:13 PM

No adapter needed.

Swoop•2/15/24, 2:40 PM

Thanks!

BBrizzly Can you confirm which grip type I should select?

Brizzly•2/15/24, 3:04 PM

Nevermind, it must have been a bad connection in my extension. I took everything apart to make sure I didn't have any bent pins, and it works now after putting everything back together. Weird that the grip was getting power, but buttons weren't registering on the Rhino, but all is well now.

bert•2/16/24, 12:11 AM

Hi, i need some help with the A2A Comanche. I can't get autopilot following to work, did some searching in this channel but found no solutions. The TelemFFB software is running fine otherwise, all the effects are working, axis are not bound in MSFS.

smitty•2/16/24, 12:30 AM

do you have the 1.0 release or the WIP version with GUI?

Wwalmis You can try again

buzzbomb•2/16/24, 12:51 AM

it started working yesterday evening...thanks for following up!

Ssmitty do you have the 1.0 release or the WIP version with GUI?

bert•2/16/24, 2:14 AM

You mean the Telem software right? I got the GUI version, should i try another?

smitty•2/16/24, 2:16 AM

just making sure, someone the other day was having trouble with the a2a and was using the 'stable' 1.0 version. if you have a bunch of purple sliders, you shoudl be good. what are symptoms exactly

bert•2/16/24, 2:19 AM

bunch of purple ones, some green ones, all effects are working fine and are tuneable. only the autopilot following setting is not working, yoke moves around when i do autopilot turns, but the rhino stays centered

smitty•2/16/24, 2:22 AM

are all the sliders inside axis control at default settings?

bert•2/16/24, 2:23 AM

yes, similar settings

smitty•2/16/24, 2:26 AM

how unsimilar? the X trims will contrl how much an autopilot would move things.

bert•2/16/24, 2:26 AM

i played around with them, but nothing changed

bert•2/16/24, 2:27 AM

no movement at default position or 100%

smitty•2/16/24, 2:29 AM

i havent checked it recently but i think the a2a autopilot is pretty gentile.. it doesnt move all that much. and you have to trim elevator so its not blinking the up/down indicators

bert•2/16/24, 2:32 AM

so all sliders at 100% is maximum ap following movement? the bank is gentile, but pitch can move quite a bit i think, but there were no forces noticable at all

smitty•2/16/24, 2:40 AM

these sliders are weird. 'physical' means that applying 100% trim would move the physical rhino stick to its 100% limit. 'virtual' , which can go from -100 to +100, controls how much offset is sent back to the game, to move the virtual stick, becuase of the way the game assumes you have a regular spring center joystick. it makes more sense in elevator- if you shut off the spring force and adjust trim while keeping the stick centered, the plane should not pitch up and down (you will however see the virtual stick moving). the virtual y slider is adjusted to achieve this. if you are not getting proper roll movement, keep physical at 100 but try different values of virtual x, maybe change 10 at a time

smitty•2/16/24, 2:44 AM

maybe number481 can explain better

Number481•2/16/24, 2:44 AM

I picked up the comanche a while ago, but I've never really flown it.. and I don't really know how to use the autopilot.. but at least in heading mode, the aircraft is not activating the AP master simvar, which means TelemFFB has no idea the autopilot is active...

smitty•2/16/24, 2:46 AM

maybe thats why i thought the feeling was gentile. i know it moved a little bit but might have just been from gusts or soemthing

Ssmitty maybe thats why i thought the feeling was gentile. i know it moved a little bit...

Number481•2/16/24, 2:49 AM

if the autopilot uses trim, and the trim was moving, that would move the stick regardless of the autopilot mode.. but AP following works a little differently than trim following. The trim following uses the physical/virtual offsets you describe above. AP following is a lot simpler. It just enables a static spring force and tells the joystick to "follow the axis". Also possible it worked at one point and an update from A2A did something with the autopilot thats now using an L:Var or something

bert•2/16/24, 2:49 AM

oh alright, that explains it.. relevant L:Var is ApMode if that helps

Number481•2/16/24, 2:59 AM

Its great these guys are able to do all sorts of cool stuff internally with L:Vars and all.. but I wish they would copy values to standard simvars where applicable... I'll have to see if I can come up with a way to do dynamic simvar subscription based on aircraft. Not looking to start subscribing to every random L:var different planes use and putting a bunch of ifs in the code for specific aircraft...

bert•2/16/24, 9:02 AM

Yeah its a real pain trying to set up LED profiles for my virpil stuff, got pretty good in searching and finding LVARs this way. The Comanches Autopilot has four states, which is why they use a custom LVAR i'm guessing.

NNumber481 Its great these guys are able to do all sorts of cool stuff internally with L:Va...

MichalK•2/16/24, 1:43 PM

Hey, A2A dev here. Unfortunately sometimes weird things happen when we drive those simvars, or sometimes we can't set them at all as there are limits in the sdk. But I'm open to suggestions for improvements.

MichalK•2/16/24, 1:46 PM

In the case of autopilot, it's fully custom as the stock MSFS code is unsuitable for this model. One thing I'm aware that doesn't play well with FFB on our end, is the automatic disconnect when the joystick is deflected above the threshold (75% defletion)

MMichalK Hey, A2A dev here. Unfortunately sometimes weird things happen when we drive tho...

Number481•2/16/24, 1:49 PM

1.) Its awesome that your here and that you have a Rhino.. I wish more devs did, and had FFB in mind when working on their aircraft, even if the sim doesn't provide any framework for it.
2.) I meant no disrespect and I do understand how limiting the SDK is in a lot of cases. The FlyInside guys, for example, have to do some really awkward things to keep their flight model separate from the native helicopter flight model.

Number481•2/16/24, 1:53 PM

3.) It would be really cool to develop some custom secret sauce for FFB between the aircraft and TelemFFB so that it could not only understand the autopilot, but the aircraft could also understand when the axis movement is in response to the autopilot, vs the user actually deflecting the controls

MichalK•2/16/24, 1:58 PM

No worries, I understand it can be frustrating when you try to write a software that works with every aircraft out there. On our end, we have to deal with at least three separate FFB implementations (Brunner, Xpforce, Vpforce) and each of them has different logic, simvars dependencies and own set of issues, lol.

MichalK•2/16/24, 2:01 PM

I haven't yet tested my VPforce in MSFS, as other developments had higher priorities, but I hope that at least I'll be able to improve our FFB compatibility when working on the next aircraft.

blave549•2/16/24, 10:07 PM

I have been away for a while for various reasons. Today I'm back in the saddle (cockpit?) and am trying to get the HPG integration working. I have disabled the cyclic axes in MSFS and enabled axis control and the FTR and FT reset buttons on my stick. When I move the stick, the cyclic in the game does not move. I must be doing something dumb -- any ideas?

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