Has anyone here integrated machine learning algorithms on microcontrollers for edge AI applications?

Has anyone here integrated machine learning algorithms on microcontrollers for edge AI applications????

Camila_99$$OP•2/28/24, 1:10 PM

Which microcontrollers and frameworks would you recommend for running lightweight ML models on resource-constrained devices?

Ttechielew What brings you all to DevHeads? Intro yourself so we can know you better!

aymen ammari•2/28/24, 1:13 PM

My friend @nour_huda recommended to me DevHeads so I can meet new people in my domain and have some experience from you guys

I really enjoy learning from experienced people

aymen ammari•2/28/24, 1:16 PM

I'm aymen ammari license degree in electronic, I work as teacher in electronic and robotics for kids and I do freelance in industrial electricity and I help Students in their university projects

Ttechielew Thanks to @Navadeep we learned that Altium was being acquired by Renesas: https:...

JeremyCook•2/28/24, 1:25 PM

Interesting perspective. Being a KiCad user I do like that I don't have to put my designs on the cloud which makes me think of the security of designs I put on Fusion 360 which is pretty cloud heavy. Have not used Altinum or Renesas, but seems the implication is that the designs are largely stored in the cloud there. I suppose what Chris says is conjecture, so I shouldn't jump on companies for the idea that they're getting unfair-ish marketing info, but it does make sense that it would be possible.

In more encouraging thoughts, maybe more companies will throw resources toward KiCad, but I'm not holding my breath either. I've really only used KiCad, so it's entirely possible that other systems are better. I understand Eagle integrates its 3D CAD stuff with Fusion 360, so that is pretty neat, and if it saves designers time a expensive and "cloudy" EDA system could be well worth it.

CCamila_99$$Has anyone here integrated machine learning algorithms on microcontrollers for e...

abhishek awasthi•2/28/24, 1:54 PM

there are nice illustration by edge impluse upon thier platform... from there one can start further ..then can go deep on cmsisnn or rockchip chips provided thier own model porting methods...you may port to 8 int or 16.. on them

CCamila_99$$Which microcontrollers and frameworks would you recommend for running lightweigh...

Navadeep•2/28/24, 3:41 PM

We had once discussed about this a while ago - have a look general-dev-chatEdge AI use cases and industry apps (continued)

aymen ammari•2/28/24, 3:50 PM

I'm working on a robotics project and need to select a suitable motor driver for DC motors.

aymen ammari•2/28/24, 3:51 PM

do you have any recommendations for this type of application?

Aaymen ammari do you have any recommendations for this type of application?

Navadeep•2/28/24, 4:10 PM

Quite a broad question. What type is the motor and what's the rating?

take a look at this brushed DC motor controller that comes with I2C interface and some smart features about stall detection(helpful if for a robotic actuator) https://www.ti.com/product/DRV8234

DRV8234 data sheet, product information and support | TI.com

TI’s DRV8234 is a 38-V 2-A H-bridge motor driver with ripple counting, sensorless stall detection and I²C interface. Find parameters, ordering and quality information

aymen ammari•2/28/24, 4:12 PM

High-Speed-DC-Gear-Electrical-Motor-with-Reduction-Gearbox-GS-25.webp

aymen ammari•2/28/24, 4:12 PM

This one

NNavadeep Quite a broad question. What type is the motor and what's the rating? take a lo...

aymen ammari•2/28/24, 4:18 PM

Is there a version with pmw input or analog?

Aabhishek awasthi there are nice illustration by edge impluse upon thier platform... from there on...

Camila_99$$OP•2/28/24, 4:29 PM

I'll check it out

Aaymen ammari Is there a version with pmw input or analog?

Navadeep•2/28/24, 4:46 PM

Yes, PWM is the control mode for DRV8234.

aymen ammari•2/28/24, 4:48 PM

Very good!! That suits me well, I'll give it a try

boualleg sabrina•2/28/24, 4:48 PM

How do I choose an RTOS for my project?

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wafa_ath•2/28/24, 5:57 PM

Hello, i wanna do hand gesture recognition with my robot camera , but the thing here it's only using python 2.7 , is there is any libraries for recognition suitable with that version of python!?

Wanted (J.R)•2/28/24, 6:34 PM

i know i asked something here about sharing audio inputs but cant find the reaction

JeremyCook•2/28/24, 9:36 PM

KiCad 8 is out. Went ahead and downloaded/installed it: https://www.kicad.org/

This video shows some features that may be beneficial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohxlmy0p7FE. Haven't done much with it yet myself, but was pretty painless to install on MacOS. Looking forward to getting my hands dirty with it!

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8 *Must-Try* features in KiCad 8

KiCad 8 just dropped, and here are Bald Engineer's eight must-try features! The February 2024 release brings a whole host of new stuff to the Schematic editor. However, the PCB editor, CLI, and Simulation tools also received attention. (There are something like 900 closed issues for the 8.0.0 Milestone!) Which of these is your favorite?

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JJeremyCook KiCad 8 is out. Went ahead and downloaded/installed it: https://www.kicad.org/ -...

aymen ammari•2/28/24, 9:44 PM

What's new in this version?

Aaymen ammari What's new in this version?

techielew•2/29/24, 1:35 AM

Lots:

Improvements to the official KiCad libraries
Expanded support for importing data from other tools
New possibilities for data export
Improvements to the command-line interface (CLI)
Improvements to documentation
New UI panels for properties, net navigation, and search
New BOM exporter
Pin helpers
Comparison of symbols to library versions
Improvements to grid handling
Editable power symbols
Simulator UI overhaul
New simulation features
Multiple footprint dragging
Interactive length tuning patterns
Connectivity for graphic shapes
Footprint editor properties panel
3D Viewer UI overhaul
See here: https://www.kicad.org/blog/2024/02/Version-8.0.0-Released/

Version 8.0.0 Released

The KiCad project is proud to announce the release of version 8.0.0.
Despite coming only a year after KiCad 7 was released, version 8 is packed
with new features, improvements, and hundreds of bug fixes. We hope you
enjoy the new version! Head to the KiCad download page
to get your copy of the new version (note that some packages may still be i...

Aaymen ammari What's new in this version?

techielew•2/29/24, 5:06 AM

ICYMI: @Petr Dvořák dropped knowledge on complex PCB design in KiCad in a Sierra Circuits webinar earlier today: https://www.protoexpress.com/webinars/kicad-for-serious-hardware-development/

Check it out if you have time/interest in KiCad development.

Sierra Circuits

KiCad for Serious Hardware Development | Sierra Circuits

Watch our webinar on KiCad for serious hardware development by Petr Dvořák who demoes 15 steps for PCB design. Watch now!

Ttechielew ICYMI: @Petr Dvořák dropped knowledge on complex PCB design in KiCad in a Sierra...

Petr Dvořák•2/29/24, 5:17 AM

Thank you for the promotion, @techielew. There were two hiccups in the presentation but it happens. I hope I delivered a useful content to the end audience.

Ttechielew ICYMI: @Petr Dvořák dropped knowledge on complex PCB design in KiCad in a Sierra...

onky•2/29/24, 7:08 AM

Yeah, I was one of the attendee, it was very useful.
I was expecting some more content on high speed design, I do not know who were the target audience, may be new users.
Although using it for 2-3 years, I got to know few new tricks and tips.

Oonky Yeah, I was one of the attendee, it was very useful. I was expecting some more c...

Petr Dvořák•2/29/24, 8:11 AM

I am happy you got to know some new tricks

onky•2/29/24, 8:37 AM

@Petr Dvořák Do you have IPC CID/CID+ certification?

Ttechielew Lots: * Improvements to the official KiCad libraries * Expanded support for impo...

aymen ammari•2/29/24, 8:43 AM

That's good, it will help me a lot in designing my projects, thanks for the infos

Ttechielew Lots: * Improvements to the official KiCad libraries * Expanded support for impo...

Petr Dvořák•2/29/24, 9:00 AM

Unfortunately, the lead SW engineer of the KiCAD v8 is probably a big mouse fan. Many features changed from pure keyboard-wise to a clicking hell. Even the route command in the PCB editor needs to be invoked by the X key and confirmed with the left mouse click. This is the highest possible stupidity and the efficiency killer. The new BOM tool is a chapter of its own.

Petr Dvořák•2/29/24, 9:03 AM

I was surprised by how many influencers glorified the KiCAD v8 on the day of the release. Everything needs time for testing and verification. We are still in the beta phase with the KiCAD v8, even though they say it is the official release.

Oonky @Petr Dvořák Do you have IPC CID/CID+ certification?

Petr Dvořák•2/29/24, 9:03 AM

No, I don't. Do you?

youcef_ali•2/29/24, 11:27 AM

in cpu/mpu architecture the memory can be used by two peripherals in the same time, one for reading and writing in the same time ?

PPetr Dvořák No, I don't. Do you?

onky•2/29/24, 11:33 AM

No, I don't have it either.
I wanted expert opinion if it is worth getting one, what to expect and towards whom it is targeted.

Yyoucef_ali in cpu/mpu architecture the memory can be used by two peripherals in the same ti...

Petr Dvořák•2/29/24, 11:43 AM

You need to check the Reference manual of your chip for the memory architecture. There is no general answer. There can be differences, especially between "normal" and "special" devices (Critical safety, etc.). Generally speaking, no. Each device has privileged access.

Oonky No, I don't have it either. I wanted expert opinion if it is worth getting one, ...

Petr Dvořák•2/29/24, 11:45 AM

I wanted to attend an IPC training this year, so I have some contacts to training company representatives. Generally speaking, those training courses are pretty expensive but your CV will be happy...

PPetr Dvořák You need to check the Reference manual of your chip for the memory architecture....

youcef_ali•2/29/24, 11:52 AM

I'm having a data coming with 400 kbit/s i would like to process and transfer this data with ethernet tcp server using lwip library at the same time while DMA is operating

Yyoucef_ali I'm having a data coming with 400 kbit/s i would like to process and transfer th...

Petr Dvořák•2/29/24, 12:03 PM

You said, "at the same time". Of course, you can access the memory from two peripherals. You need to implement a circular buffer or similar memory structure. Ask @Umesh Lokhande or others for the best implementation practices. The HW side is safe here.

PPetr Dvořák I wanted to attend an IPC training this year, so I have some contacts to trainin...

onky•2/29/24, 12:21 PM

Yes, these courses are quite expensive. I am not typical PCB layout engineer at my Job, however I do some personal projects. If this goes in thousand's of €s then I probably skip.

PPetr Dvořák You said, "at the same time". Of course, you can access the memory from two peri...

youcef_ali•2/29/24, 12:24 PM

Thanks a lot

Oonky Yes, these courses are quite expensive. I am not typical PCB layout engineer at ...

Petr Dvořák•2/29/24, 12:29 PM

Yes, 2-3.000 EUR.