ZI am looking at Vivaldi now and I can see that it's definitely the original opera creators, but remember opera was built on lies, it is good now yes but it used to ship with hidden adware viruses and hook itself on installs if you installed a program, opera had a shady and honestly pretty bad beginning and it was slower than all of the competition.
Vivaldi being the original creators is therefore extremely worrying for me
But also the more a browser says it is adfree and tracker free the more I struggle to trust it, how are they earning their money?
Vivaldi being the original creators is therefore extremely worrying for me
But also the more a browser says it is adfree and tracker free the more I struggle to trust it, how are they earning their money?
VPoint is, playtron taken a box64 video and tried to claim it was their own 
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VYouTubeIgnorant Slave
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VDisappointing start
ZAnd they showed off their os which just looked a lot like a modified playnite theme, I'd say to be wary of them, remember that major tech news outlets also reported on bitconnect being the real deal.
VThere's messages of the founder/CEO asking for WINE/Proton devs in the ChimeraOS discord from over a year ago. I think playtron as a product exists, dunno why they chose to steal this though...
ZTbh, playtron simply scares me, I know I am hating far too much than reasonable, I just believe that Linux should always be open source, based on the fact that playtron has people on a payroll is scary as that may indicate that playtron will be closed source, and the fact that the founder has connections in meta is also scary.
ZAnd the fact that they show off these fake demo videos is also scary.
ZFeels very much like bitconnect all over again.
VThere's a video of a demo on the legion go
ZThere is just too many red flags for my autistic brain.
VAnd the verge writer did install it on their deck
VThey're doing demos at GDC tomorrow
ZAs I said I may be hating too much, but that one os picture being taken straight from playnite (or at least looking like it) and this video being a stolen video, and the founder having people on a higher than minimum wage payroll is just scary and shady to me.
But I guess we will wait and see.
But I guess we will wait and see.
ZAnd why are companies investing into it?
There must be monitary gain in order for so much money being invested.
There must be monitary gain in order for so much money being invested.
AI second vivaldi I like it
AEven though it's slow
AIt is
AThey hired the dude last summer
ALmao
VThe dude who posted that video said they reported playtrons upload in the comments?
AOk maybe they borrowed the video dunno. But box64 dev is on playthingy payroll
VOh yeah I'm not claiming they stole from box64
AAs far as I know
VThey stole a video featuring box64, not running on playtron, and claimed it was running on playtron.
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maybe they need to get a video crew dunnoABut at least it's their tech
VI mean the solution to that is not stealing random yt videos lol
VI mean, it's not on their OS, which is the main product.
VIf they have a working box64 implementation, they could record their own video lol
AThe title of the vid says engine soooo. But anyway
ZRed flags OOOoooOoOOOoo
ZMaybe I am too quick too judge maybe the base of playtron is box64
ZAnd they just made a skin
AIt's not, but they want 5G Android tablets for India or sth
VThe video isn't the playtron x86 to ARM engine though. It's a standard box64 setup. I understand box64 powers that engine, but stealing a video and claiming it is that engine is now how you market something truthfully.
ABox64 is the engine
VI said that
ZThat sounds exactly like the kind of promises these crypto scam companies make
AAll I can say is good luck to them
ZRemember that safemoon was going to bring internet to the countries in Africa?
VI'm not saying "This is the downfall of Playtron!" but starting off with the first big media coverage you get with an uncredited video which isn't running 100% on your platform is not how you fain trust with the community you're trying to build. I do hope Playtron does well (And hopefully does well in a way that benefits the FOSS community) but antics like this are how you get people to instantly have distrust in you.
AI think you might be overthinking things a bit. Although yes startup culture etc
VI don't think this is a crazy thing to find a bit suspicious
AI have the same reservations though
ZI am good example in distrust gained against them
Nwe need more media coverage for universal-blue!
VThe verge article writer said they were testing bazzite iirc
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