VPforce Controls•2y ago

Perfect 🙌 I'll see about continuing your work from there (provided I get it to work properly to be

Perfect

I'll see about continuing your work from there (provided I get it to work properly to begin with)

NNumber481 sounds like you'd need a concrete subfloor and 1/2" lag bolts to secure the damn...

Fierce_Fire•3/22/24, 9:23 PM

Only real use for large force is longer arm, but with blf04 at 6:1 I already have too much force with a 55cm arm...

f15sim•3/22/24, 9:30 PM

Anyone have a source for the 5M HTD belt in random lengths? (and not joined at the ends)

SSpelljammer1 Perfect 🙌 I'll see about continuing your work from there (provided I get it to...

Dr. No•3/22/24, 9:33 PM

If we could get a version in telemffb that would be ideal

Ff15sim Anyone have a source for the 5M HTD belt in random lengths? (and not joined at ...

mechsicko•3/22/24, 9:43 PM

You need the LL version (long length). Will look something like this: HTD 5M 15 LL

f15sim•3/22/24, 9:44 PM

Ok, thanks.

mechsicko•3/22/24, 9:44 PM

I have had good luck with seller Powge, on Ali and Amazon.. good prices and good quality

f15sim•3/22/24, 9:56 PM

long delivery times.

Fr4Ged•3/22/24, 10:24 PM

So I guess to be able to change the settings in TelemFFB I need to use the WiP version, right?

Number481•3/22/24, 10:42 PM

Need? No.

Want? Probably.
The old version is pretty cumbersome

Bob Bushman•3/22/24, 10:46 PM

'Stable' version of telem ffb compared to the wip is like 1982 flightsim vs msfs 2020.

Bob Bushman•3/22/24, 10:47 PM

Admittedly hyperbolic but the differences are huge.

Fr4Ged•3/22/24, 10:56 PM

also follow up question:
the Gazelle in DCS isn't really working with the trim right now or is it?

Number481•3/22/24, 11:07 PM

AFAIK it works. You just have to enable the separate FFB setting in its special settings and make sure the FFB curve sliders on the same page are 0.

NNumber481 AFAIK it works. You just have to enable the separate FFB setting in its special...

Fr4Ged•3/22/24, 11:55 PM

there is a module specific FF option that I had to check mark. thanks for the hint!

NNumber481 sounds like you'd need a concrete subfloor and 1/2" lag bolts to secure the damn...

Red Magic•3/23/24, 12:00 AM

I can't wait for gorilla wrestling to come out so I can train to fly the bf109

thedicecooler•3/23/24, 12:05 AM

anyone on that uses these with a winwing grip?

Tthedicecooler anyone on that uses these with a winwing grip?

Toddimus•3/23/24, 3:04 AM

Let me ask the same question but in a broader sense…. Coming from a Honeycomb Alpha yoke, if you could choose the best all-around grip, what would it be? Primarily for MSFS but I could see delving into the DCS world. Want to learn helis and of course still fly GA.

Ice•3/23/24, 5:08 AM

I'm ~80 Rhino's away from salvation. I didn't select any adapters when I did my pre-order form, can I change that when my order comes up?

amadeus•3/23/24, 8:24 AM

yeah

amadeus•3/23/24, 8:25 AM

you should be able to go through a separate form when your turn is up (if i remember correctly) and you can pick everything you need then

TToddimus Let me ask the same question but in a broader sense…. Coming from a Honeycomb Al...

PiNKSH!T•3/23/24, 9:10 AM

if you want just one grip I would either get; VKB MCGU, Virpil t-50cm2 or Constelation Alpha, Winwing F-16 + EX extension. VKB needs the VPforce passthrough adapter which imo is a good thing as you can still use the powerful vkb config software, Virpil is plug & play with the Rhino & WW needs an adapter but will then work with RHino base. Either one of those three grips will give you the most function, apart from a few aircraft like the Kiowa you'll be able to cover every single keybind on any hotas grip.

I/JG7_Moto•3/23/24, 12:59 PM

Telem wont start by double click

I/JG7_Moto•3/23/24, 1:00 PM

And with cmd prompt I get this error

I/JG7_Moto•3/23/24, 1:01 PM

I/JG7_Moto•3/23/24, 1:01 PM

latest version of Telem

Stains•3/23/24, 1:12 PM

I had that issue with the latest version after it auto updated. Manually downloaded and installed the latest version and it worked.

I/JG7_Moto•3/23/24, 1:14 PM

In my case I manually downloaded it, installed the folder under Program Files folder, and when I click on Telem.exe nothing happens

Ice•3/23/24, 4:20 PM

I’m planning on topping my Rhino with a WW 16EX. Any thoughts?

Ice•3/23/24, 4:20 PM

I wanted a Virpil T-50CM2 but they seem to be out of stock.

IIce I’m planning on topping my Rhino with a WW 16EX. Any thoughts?

TrigaNZ•3/23/24, 4:31 PM

That’s what I have. Love it.

IIce I’m planning on topping my Rhino with a WW 16EX. Any thoughts?

MGBDave•3/23/24, 4:37 PM

The WW 16EX has my vote as well. Excellent.

AndyHill•3/23/24, 4:46 PM

I prefer the 16 EX over T-50CM2

Ice•3/23/24, 6:52 PM

Alright. That settles my decision lol. Thanks gents.

Stryker990•3/23/24, 11:25 PM

More buttons > anything else so yeah f-16ex is besto

TrigaNZ•3/23/24, 11:34 PM

With the WW adapter I find it tall enough, I don't need any extensions etc.

capt.bbh1220•3/24/24, 4:37 AM

hey everyone, just wondering how long it takes to get if i order one of these?

FlatSpin•3/24/24, 4:40 AM

6 months to a year

capt.bbh1220•3/24/24, 4:45 AM

ahh

Fr4Ged•3/24/24, 9:58 AM

!status

FFr4Ged !status

VPforceBot•3/24/24, 9:58 AM

Hey @Fr4Ged,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0457 on 2024-03-22
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 212 days, median is 220 days, max is 407 days
451 Rhinos are shipped in total

Ccapt.bbh1220 ahh

Fierce_Fire•3/24/24, 11:08 AM

It's long, unless you make it yourself. The diy kits get shipped within a week and there are plans available if you have a 3d printer

NNumber481 yeah, for the official modules, you should only need to configure the trim relea...

mac22443506•3/24/24, 12:38 PM

really in the same position - just trying to get force trim to work with the AH64 - have the force trim up bound in DCS and the the force trim enabled in the vpforce software - notice in the vpforce software there seems to be key binds for the 4 force trim positions - do these actually need to be bound for it to work or is binding in DCS sufficient? (apart from that is there anything else needs to be done for it to work)?

Mmac22443506 really in the same position - just trying to get force trim to work with the AH6...

Number481•3/24/24, 12:49 PM

The hardware trim settings in VPf Configurator is only meant for enabling force trim like behavior for games that do not support FFB. You can leave it enabled, but it will have no effect in DCS unless the "override trim" option is enabled in VPf Configurator.

The force-trim functionality is completely implemented by DCS. There is no need to set up the options in VPf Configurator

NNumber481 The hardware trim settings in VPf Configurator is only meant for enabling force ...

mac22443506•3/24/24, 12:54 PM

got it thanks will leave unchecked - so to get it working on the AH64 simply a key bind for up force trim is required in DCS which I will press move the stick to the new "centre" and release - stick then finds its new centre? (if yes why are there key binds for left and right force trim)

Number481•3/24/24, 1:07 PM

are you talking about the 4 hat options in the HW force trim in VPf Configurator? Again, those are meant for sims that do not support FFB and will emulate the stick offset moving when pressing a trim hat.

The Apache in DCS has multiple force trim bindings that interact with the SAS/Autopilot....

mac22443506•3/24/24, 1:10 PM

yes absolutely correct so basically the force trim up is the key thin to bind in DCS (hold it and set stick then release will give you a new centre - and would the trim reset bind right at the bottom set everything to the default position ? also 2 more unconnected questions (testing the rhino first with DCS - mainly DCS, p51 and F18) - 1)just wondering if there are any recommended settings (screen shot would be helpful) for the main configurator software tab settings - such as what effects should be ticked (such as friction and damper) and what the sliders in the setting tab (such as inertia and friction) should be set to? 2)was also finding in the AH64 was not getting any effects for things such as cannon firing and general judder - presume this is because I used the stable version of the telem software - can see there is also a more updated WIP version which guess is required for these effects to be enabled?

Number481•3/24/24, 1:17 PM

No, %90+ of the effects are the same between stable and WIP.. itsjust that WIP is much easier to configure.

A good place to start is to import the default vpf configurator profile in the configs directory, enable damper in the effects tab and then adjust the damper slider in the settings tab to your liking.

NNumber481 No, %90+ of the effects are the same between stable and WIP.. itsjust that WIP i...

mac22443506•3/24/24, 1:22 PM

ok - maybe I did something wrong then - the version of telem I had running 1.0.0 I think - was showing the telemmetry from DCS - but I noticed in some screenshots of the latest telem it broke out the effects that were implemented for say the AH64 into sliders so you could tweak the effects separately - I was not getting this in the version of telem I was running? - also with the latest version of telem I thought you just needed to load up the module and it would auto detect the aircraft with no more tinkering required - so have I missed some setup steps to get everything working?

NNumber481 No, %90+ of the effects are the same between stable and WIP.. itsjust that WIP i...

mac22443506•3/24/24, 1:24 PM

ok will give it a try - so is there a reset to default button and where can I roll it back to default? - so are you simply running with the spring and damper effects ticked? (not using things like friction ect enabled..)

Mmac22443506 ok - maybe I did something wrong then - the version of telem I had running 1.0.0...

Number481•3/24/24, 1:31 PM

thats the whole part where I said "WIP is easier to configure". Stable is all flat text config files that need to be edited to change anything. WIP is all UI based. Check out sections 4.1 (stable) and 4.2 (WIP) in the manual (linked at the top of https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1091401951951982602) to get an idea of the evolution between the two.

There are a number of things in VPf Configurator that can affect how the haptic effects from TelemFFB behave, including the periodic effects slider and the periodic effects LPF values in the expert settings.

You can set the rhino back to default at any time by simply re-importing the default profile and apply/store.

Perfect 🙌 I'll see about continuing your work from there (provided I get it to work properly to be

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