There's a group of us at work that all have different handhelds. We can test it out if you want. I h

Bbramadeusbrozart Oh it seems to have an impact on the Loki Max, unless something else I'm doing i...

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TecN01R•3/27/24, 11:18 PM

You’re probably still using amd-pstate-epp unless you explicitly enabled the passive pstate or your not on Bazzite

TTecN01R You’re probably still using amd-pstate-epp unless you explicitly enabled the pas...

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bramadeusbrozartOP•3/27/24, 11:19 PM

I'm definitely on Bazzite. I got my other handheld buddies to install it too.

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:19 PM

so, whats the tldr on controlling the boost on pstate?

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:19 PM

whats the business with governors

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TecN01R•3/27/24, 11:19 PM

I’m going to defer to Aru at this point

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:21 PM

my 6.6 kernels holding up quite well i think, this patch looks cool

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:21 PM

im building

Bbramadeusbrozart I'm definitely on Bazzite. I got my other handheld buddies to install it too.

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:21 PM

unless you explicitly changed your AMD scaling driver, you're most likely on amd-pstate-epp. You don't see an

Enable CPU Boost

Enable CPU Boost

Enable CPU Boost

Enable CPU Boost toggle, right? and

scaling driver

scaling driver

scaling driver

scaling driver at the bottom of the plugin should show

amd-pstate-epp

amd-pstate-epp

amd-pstate-epp

amd-pstate-epp

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:22 PM

i'm assuming you set power governor to

performance

performance

performance

performance, which makes the EPP options disappear

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:23 PM

ELI5 cpu boost

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:23 PM

do i need that patch?

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:23 PM

do I need the gpu clock?

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:24 PM

im very confused

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:24 PM

k guys kernel built installing, hopefully it boots

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TecN01R•3/27/24, 11:24 PM

If you’re on an Ally yes, if you’re not just stick with the Bazzite default

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:24 PM

TLDR, yes to GPU clock controls for feature parity with Steam.
No to CPU boost controls unless you're using a ROG Ally

AAru i'm assuming you set power governor to `performance`, which makes the EPP option...

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bramadeusbrozartOP•3/27/24, 11:25 PM

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:25 PM

at the bottom of system info

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bramadeusbrozartOP•3/27/24, 11:25 PM

amd-pstate-epp

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bramadeusbrozartOP•3/27/24, 11:26 PM

So TLDR there is a boost toggle that we can't see unless we have an Ally?

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:27 PM

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bramadeusbrozartOP•3/27/24, 11:27 PM

Ohhhhhh

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:27 PM

the CPU boost toggle is only enabled if your

Scaling Driver

Scaling Driver

Scaling Driver

Scaling Driver is not amd-pstate-epp

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:27 PM

Power Governor performance is different from CPU boost

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:27 PM

it's all rather confusing lol

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bramadeusbrozartOP•3/27/24, 11:27 PM

Yeah no just sliding the performance slider all the way to the right already massively boosts performance from whatever the default profile was on this device.

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:28 PM

yeah, for certain games, the performance power governor makes a big difference

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TecN01R•3/27/24, 11:28 PM

There are ways to set it via the terminal. It’s in the SimpleDeckyTDP readme. But unless you’re on the Ally it doesn’t seem to help and may hurt. Luckily it’s easy enough to switch back.

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:29 PM

long story short, don't do it unless you have an Ally lol

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bramadeusbrozartOP•3/27/24, 11:29 PM

Got it lol

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:31 PM

so i have to do both governor epp and gfx clock to get my preferred boost amount?

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Smabe•3/27/24, 11:33 PM

I noticed maxing out the gpu clock did bad things

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:33 PM

what do we think about hte patch series you sent? smash or pass?

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:33 PM

have to recompile the kernel, it gave me some module warnings bc i tried to optimize the config

SSmabe I noticed maxing out the gpu clock did bad things

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:34 PM

i basically only change the GPU clocks if I notice the game I'm playing is GPU bound

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:34 PM

CPU sitting at 20% but GPU at 99% the entire time

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:34 PM

in that situation, I just increase the min GPU clock

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Smabe•3/27/24, 11:35 PM

Yeah tried it on FF7R It halved the frame rate when set to 2700 I guess it didn’t leave enough juice for the cpu, even tho it would hit 2700mhz at times

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TecN01R•3/27/24, 11:35 PM

Would maxing out the GPU clock prevent it from activating any sort of boosting? Not sure.

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:36 PM

not sure tbh, never tested running a game at max GPU clock

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:36 PM

usually I just set the GPU bounds to something like 1800 to 2700

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TecN01R•3/27/24, 11:37 PM

Never thought about setting a minimum, gonna have to try that. I have games I routinely hit 99% but CPU isn’t close. I feel like that’ll be most games with the Go though.

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:37 PM

+``cpb_boost``
+        Specifies whether core performance boost is requested to be enabled or disabled
+        If core performance boost is disabled while a core is in a boosted P-state, the
+        core automatically transitions to the highest performance non-boosted P-state.
+        AMD Core Performance Boost(CPB) is controlled by this new attribute file which
+        allow user to change all cores frequency boosting state. It supports both
+        ``active mode`` and ``passive mode`` control with below value write to it.
+
+        "0" Disable Core performance Boosting
+        "1" Enable  Core performance Boosting

+``cpb_boost``
+        Specifies whether core performance boost is requested to be enabled or disabled
+        If core performance boost is disabled while a core is in a boosted P-state, the
+        core automatically transitions to the highest performance non-boosted P-state.
+        AMD Core Performance Boost(CPB) is controlled by this new attribute file which
+        allow user to change all cores frequency boosting state. It supports both
+        ``active mode`` and ``passive mode`` control with below value write to it.
+
+        "0" Disable Core performance Boosting
+        "1" Enable  Core performance Boosting

+``cpb_boost``
+        Specifies whether core performance boost is requested to be enabled or disabled
+        If core performance boost is disabled while a core is in a boosted P-state, the
+        core automatically transitions to the highest performance non-boosted P-state.
+        AMD Core Performance Boost(CPB) is controlled by this new attribute file which
+        allow user to change all cores frequency boosting state. It supports both
+        ``active mode`` and ``passive mode`` control with below value write to it.
+
+        "0" Disable Core performance Boosting
+        "1" Enable  Core performance Boosting

+``cpb_boost``
+        Specifies whether core performance boost is requested to be enabled or disabled
+        If core performance boost is disabled while a core is in a boosted P-state, the
+        core automatically transitions to the highest performance non-boosted P-state.
+        AMD Core Performance Boost(CPB) is controlled by this new attribute file which
+        allow user to change all cores frequency boosting state. It supports both
+        ``active mode`` and ``passive mode`` control with below value write to it.
+
+        "0" Disable Core performance Boosting
+        "1" Enable  Core performance Boosting

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:37 PM

im trying to make sense of this

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:37 PM

so you still have all the normal stuff, you just disable the boost

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Smabe•3/27/24, 11:38 PM

Does that mean you can toggle it in active mode?

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Aru•3/27/24, 11:38 PM

I think it should, that's what i've been waiting for before re-adding CPU boost controls to SimpleDeckyTDP

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:40 PM

im building it now, prob @Kyle Gospo and @Jan can drop a build to testing

Aantheas https://github.com/hhd-dev/linux-handheld/blob/master/6.6/amd-pstate-freq.patch ...

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antheas•3/27/24, 11:41 PM

patch is here

KKid https://www.pling.com/p/1166289/ I downloaded this

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tulip•3/27/24, 11:46 PM

checking this out.

There's a group of us at work that all have different handhelds. We can test it out if you want. I h

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