Don't get Brunner, it will cut out after 30 seconds of FFB effects from what I have heard talking to ppl that have owned them due to overheat protection where as the Rhino has fans to help mittigate heat & I have never had my Rhino cut FFB effects due to heat or any other reason. The Rhino's ~9Nm may not sound as cool as 35Nm for the FFbeast or something like 80Nm I think I saw someone do with laserwing, but the Rhino's 9Nm is plenty strong enough 80Nm is stupid crazy no one needs that lol 35Nm is crazy too you could legit hurt yourself in a crash. I've had the Rhino snatch the grip out of my hand in a crash landing in IL2. 9Nm is a little more than the 8Nm of a Fanatec DD CLS Wheel with the boost kit. The Rhino's software is far further along than anything I know of for laserwing tbh I don't know if it even has anything like the Rhino does, FFBeast & the GVL FFBest are the same thing just GVL offers one prebuilt, the FFBeast has software that is coming along but not as far as the VPforce/Rhino software the config software is pretty much the same but I don't know how far along or if it has a TelemFFB style software. If I had to choose again now between the Rhino & any other FFB base I would still choose the VPforce Rhino, it is strong & solid, the software behind it is solid & constantly being worked on & also Walmis is very active & extremely helpful to anyone that needs help I have seen him push out software fixes for individual ppl in a matter of hours from time of reporting the issue