Is anyone aware of a comparison between the VPForce and the BRunner? It’s difficult to decide which
Is anyone aware of a comparison between the VPForce and the BRunner? It’s difficult to decide which one to get.
Vffbbeast, and there is also gvl and laserwing
JI don't have direct link to one but from what I've heard Rhino is better in every way except the long wait time.
Basically - if you don't want to wait and have the money, go with Brunner. If you don't mind waiting and want a superior product, go with Rhino
Basically - if you don't want to wait and have the money, go with Brunner. If you don't mind waiting and want a superior product, go with Rhino
GIn DCS do you fly heli's on the stick, then press the trim button once stable, or do you hold the trim button then release once stable?
Fdepends on the heli.
in the Apache you trim release, move into new position, and release trim release.
I usually press the trim button every time before making bigger maneuvers.
in the Apache you trim release, move into new position, and release trim release.
I usually press the trim button every time before making bigger maneuvers.
RFFBeast
Roh oop already mentioned
Ado I need to connect the Rhino base into an outlet using the power box if I'm using a desktop? Or does that apply only to laptop computers?
Fyou need to use the power adapter either way.
the Rhino can't be powered by a single USB cable.
the Rhino can't be powered by a single USB cable.
BA normal usb port can at most supply 2.5 Watts.
(And they often skimp at that)
The rhino comes with a 180 watt brick for a reason
(And they often skimp at that)
The rhino comes with a 180 watt brick for a reason
PDon't get Brunner, it will cut out after 30 seconds of FFB effects from what I have heard talking to ppl that have owned them due to overheat protection where as the Rhino has fans to help mittigate heat & I have never had my Rhino cut FFB effects due to heat or any other reason. The Rhino's ~9Nm may not sound as cool as 35Nm for the FFbeast or something like 80Nm I think I saw someone do with laserwing, but the Rhino's 9Nm is plenty strong enough 80Nm is stupid crazy no one needs that lol 35Nm is crazy too you could legit hurt yourself in a crash. I've had the Rhino snatch the grip out of my hand in a crash landing in IL2. 9Nm is a little more than the 8Nm of a Fanatec DD CLS Wheel with the boost kit. The Rhino's software is far further along than anything I know of for laserwing tbh I don't know if it even has anything like the Rhino does, FFBeast & the GVL FFBest are the same thing just GVL offers one prebuilt, the FFBeast has software that is coming along but not as far as the VPforce/Rhino software the config software is pretty much the same but I don't know how far along or if it has a TelemFFB style software. If I had to choose again now between the Rhino & any other FFB base I would still choose the VPforce Rhino, it is strong & solid, the software behind it is solid & constantly being worked on & also Walmis is very active & extremely helpful to anyone that needs help I have seen him push out software fixes for individual ppl in a matter of hours from time of reporting the issue
IWith my Rhino purchase coming up very soon, the software alone between the "competitors" is what makes me think I am making by far the right choice.
Acould someone with rhino enlighten me please, I thought I could set cyclic trim options in the software regardless of the game, does the helicopter trim require game to have this functionality, or is it just for extra feedback during the flight?
II looked at the software for the other sticks and it's not even close to the level of the Rhino
Nyou can emulate force trim with just the rhino configuration software without any games or any other software running
WThe ‘other guy’ actually helped design VPForce’s Rhino, at least as far is the gimbal is concerned. These two guys know each other.
RActually yes
RMore torque is better
Rthere is a need for more torque the same as there is a need to swap from spring gimbal to ffb at all
RThese aircraft we fly could throw the stick around on their own pretty well, and with a decent extention
Pnot really, to get the effects of ffb you don't even need 9nm as long as the base is powerful enough to keep the stick upright that's all the power you need or have to have, after that it is personal preference.
RHeck it's like 60lbs+ pull to escape a dive in the 109
Pyes but we are not trying to emulate the real forces of a plane that's not the point of ffb that would fall under personal preference not needed for ffb
Pwhat I meant in my post was that 9Nm is more than enough for PC flight sims, more than that is personal choice
Pbut having said that, I wouldn't say no if someone offered to build me a 30Nm Rhino base lol
CI would not want to see what an 80nm would do to itself in a crash in Il2 . It would tear itself apart. I would guess most people would tone down the ffb if it was over 20nm.
Fheck, I even turned down the effects in the current Rhino. for like 4x the power we would probaly need to have dedicated mounts, extensions and grips.
CAlso I would be intrigued in a poll to see how many owners predominately fly warbirds or other planes that it is appropriate to have excess force. Feel like a lot of people who are spending this kind of money fly jets fairly often.
RWarbird and helis
BIm building mine specifically for helis and the position hold of force trim.
CNot a heli guy, understand force trim, but would more torque be beneficial?
Amany jets have fairly heavy sticks
Aalso I want all the power (and endurance) in the world, but when I look at a TM connector it doesn't make me want to put 35Nm through it
Avkb maybe if you clamp the base of the grip somehow and forego the actual connector
BFor vibration and immersion, sure.
Something like the UH1 which feels like its shaking its self to death, could be fun/useful
Something like the UH1 which feels like its shaking its self to death, could be fun/useful
GI wish the TelemFFB would be compatible with my MSFFB2 stick to keep me going.
I’ve got 691 Rhinos before mine is ready, I’m guessing end of 2025 if I’m lucky!
I’ve got 691 Rhinos before mine is ready, I’m guessing end of 2025 if I’m lucky!
CHow heavy do you think would be appropriate for those?
AI think realistic would typically be in the 10+kg range, but how much you actually want is a completely different question altogether
FI did a "heavy landing" in the Huey when I first got the Rhino.
wasn't prepared for the effects and it nearly ripped out of my hands. I usually light grip the stick for sensitive maneuvers in helis.
wasn't prepared for the effects and it nearly ripped out of my hands. I usually light grip the stick for sensitive maneuvers in helis.
BLike for reels?
Is the que that large?
Is the que that large?
Fyou don't have to wait for 691 units though. loads of people don't actually order.
FMy diy never rips out of my hand, unless i "land" with the apache haha
Bits worth it for any aircraft just to get rid of center detent like servo motors did for racing sims
Balthough I fly a cirrus with a heavy center detent
Aso if I'm using my computer but not using my joystick, should I keep the red button pressed at all times? Is there any downside to this or should I just unplug it altogether?
RI press red button when not in use. Even with using comp for other stuff
IHow well does the Rhino work with IL-2? I'm not a WW2 guy, I mostly do helicopters and modern planes, but my Rhino likely less than 30 days away has my interest in WW2 piqued
CIn my experience it works great, a few quirks but I think it's great. I didn't do a lot of individual tuning but for me it is a game changer. I can say sustained dog fighting is a lot more taxing now but worth it.
GYeah. I placed my order 2 weeks ago.
V:package: 
RHINO #0468 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0468 Has Shipped!RThere's ww2 modules in DCS you can use