Not the amount of forward stick I need to hold just to fly level it isn’t, and my previous base (Win

Not the amount of forward stick I need to hold just to fly level it isn’t, and my previous base (Winwing) didn’t require any forward stick force. By that I mean I have to physically push the stick forward the entire time, let go and it will pitch up and stall, and no, trim doesn’t help

KKnuck👨✈Not the amount of forward stick I need to hold just to fly level it isn’t, and m...

Number481•4/6/24, 11:31 PM

Both the A-10 and the F-14 have a forward bias to the center position of the stick with FFB. This is probably fine for a desktop joystick like the sidewinder, and results in the forward and rearward travel of the joystick matching the asymmetric travel of the IRL control surfaces... but it does not translate well to a center mounted stick with an extenstion.

Most people have gotten around this by setting up asymmetric axis scaling in configurator with software endstops. This for example will bring your stick closer to physical center in the A10 and implement a software endstop on the forward side that more or less matches the asymmetry of the IRL stick.

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/1200355036279087204

P.S. - if you’ve enabled “sticky” spring to try to force your stick into the center position, this will likely be the reason for the constant up elevator and lack of trimming you are seeing.

NNumber481 Both the A-10 and the F-14 have a forward bias to the center position of the sti...

Knuck👨✈OP•4/7/24, 3:51 AM

I’ll try that, thank you very much mate

Wwalmis Uh, that was quite a drop 😕 Fill out the http://order.vpforce.eu form, I'll sen...

wolfman59#6013•4/7/24, 9:39 AM

Hello Walmis,
already thank you for the diy kit which arrived safely, I have a question, what is the length of the mettalic bar at the level of the gimbals for the stick?

Vitalii Muravytskyi•4/8/24, 6:04 AM

Hi. Any suggestions on why my VKB adapter is not working? The wiring seems ok, but my VKB blackbox(orange) is blinking red. Tried kg12 and TM a10/f16 grips - no luck, but both work on the base if I flash the blackbox with a correct firmware.

walmis•4/8/24, 6:27 AM

You can try verifying the wiring, by plugging the grip on the adapter, and with a multimeter in diode test mode, touching the red probe to GND and testing 3.3V/Signal with a black probe. If it reads OLOL it might be a wiring issue, else it's probably a firmware/configuration issue.

Vitalii Muravytskyi•4/8/24, 8:22 AM

The shield wire - should it be connected to anything on the adapter’s end? I can only see 5kOhm between Signal and Gnd on the grip itself, and once I put it on the adapter it becomes ~18kOhm if I check on the connector. The cable looks ok, I also see the +3.3V and some 2.7V on Signal at the adapter if connected to a black box.

VVitalii Muravytskyi The shield wire - should it be connected to anything on the adapter’s end? I can...

Vitalii Muravytskyi•4/8/24, 9:34 AM

Ok, looks like I had two problems))

VKB mentions that you can connect your stick directly to a blackbox, but nothing about disabling the base using configurator so that the red light stop blinking.
Screw heads on the adaptor are a bit higher than a surface causing intermittent connection problems. Tightened them down, but maybe I’ll add something under that small pcb to raise it 0.5mm higher.

VVitalii Muravytskyi Ok, looks like I had two problems)) 1. VKB mentions that you can connect your st...

ddrake1984•4/8/24, 11:14 AM

Light is configured in vkb app

Dddrake1984 Light is configured in vkb app

Vitalii Muravytskyi•4/8/24, 3:54 PM

Yeah I see this already, but just because the connection was unstable, I thought the stick was not recognized at all. Bug multiplication in a nutshell

Everything works now as it should!

Ice•4/8/24, 5:10 PM

I've plugged in my 16EX but I'm not getting any button data it seems

Ice•4/8/24, 5:10 PM

I think I'm missing something

Fresh_Mint•4/8/24, 5:15 PM

Do you have adapter?

Ice•4/8/24, 5:16 PM

Yes, and selected in the software

Ice•4/8/24, 5:20 PM

Is there anything I'm supposed to do other than connect the adapter, connect the stick, and select the Winwing adapter in the software?

Fresh_Mint•4/8/24, 5:20 PM

The connector may not have been fully inserted

Ice•4/8/24, 5:21 PM

I took it off and checked, it appears to be.

Ice•4/8/24, 5:42 PM

No luck

How would I diagnose if I have a bad stick from WinWing or a bad adapter?

IIce No luck 😦 How would I diagnose if I have a bad stick from WinWing or a bad adap...

walmis•4/8/24, 5:52 PM

Enable the debug grip profile, it should spam data in the debug tab. Check if it's all FFs or not. All FFs would mean adapter is not communicating with the base.

Ice•4/8/24, 5:52 PM

https://i.imgur.com/h8wlMIo.png

Imgur

walmis•4/8/24, 5:53 PM

All good, so maybe the WW plug is not fully seated, my best guess

Ice•4/8/24, 5:53 PM

Weird, I took it off and back on a few times and pressed on it pretty good. Didn't twist the stick since I know that can damage the cable.

walmis•4/8/24, 5:56 PM

I do test the adapter with my F-16EX, first connections are pretty tight sometimes with the 6 pin connector. I usually wiggle the 6pin plug a little while pushing it down.

Ice•4/8/24, 5:57 PM

Does it have a positive "click" or something?

Ice•4/8/24, 5:57 PM

Mine didn't snap or click when it went in

Ice•4/8/24, 6:00 PM

Welp, the Walmis effect is real. I unplugged it, turned the cable a bit, plugged in it. It works.

Ice•4/8/24, 6:01 PM

Thanks! Off to the races!

kuemmel•4/8/24, 7:33 PM

Sorry
but I am currently experiencing a similar problem.
I have already checked the connections several times
Unfortunately, I'm not sure whether it's the WW adapter or my stick that's causing the problems.

kuemmel•4/8/24, 7:33 PM

Is this normal behavior? So much FF

I/JG7_Moto•4/8/24, 8:03 PM

Very strange problem in DCS, FFB works in single player, in MP in all the servers except our squad server, FFB does not work there, another mate with a Rhino, his FFB works, I repaired DCS, Restarted PC and no joy, any ideas?

Bozo VFA-86•4/9/24, 4:04 AM

I'm new to rhino but I did notice that the f15e strike eagle gives me no force feedback while all other planes I've tried do. Have you tried different planes?

I/JG7_Moto•4/9/24, 12:08 PM

Yes I tried different planes

356thFS_Piranha•4/9/24, 3:38 PM

How do I tune down the IL2 shake?

Mistic•4/9/24, 9:22 PM

Any reason why my joystick is not lighting up? All the button inputs are also showing red on the configurator / not registering. Not sure what that means but yea seems joystick is not connected. plugged in before threading on and should be tight.

Mistic•4/9/24, 9:29 PM

constellation alpha

Mistic•4/9/24, 9:45 PM

I have my old warbrd base plugged in as well. When I plug grip in there it lights up etc but when vpc is on and plug it in there nothing

Fr4Ged•4/9/24, 9:46 PM

I don't think the Constellation lights up on the Rhino at all.
isn't doing that for me as well.

Mistic•4/9/24, 9:47 PM

still if I press buttons I should see them in configurator right?

Mistic•4/9/24, 9:47 PM

I have constellation+prime selected in the configurator

Mistic•4/9/24, 9:50 PM

just random buttons are colored red etc. properties in the game controller window show the same thing

MMistic just random buttons are colored red etc. properties in the game controller windo...

Fr4Ged•4/9/24, 10:05 PM

you need to calibrate the stick first.
page 11 of the manual.
basically pressing auto calibrate, moving all axes to all extremes etc. and release auto calibrate again.
I can see that you haven't done that yet.

Fr4Ged•4/9/24, 10:06 PM

maybe the red will turn white again then. red means pressed.

Mistic•4/9/24, 10:07 PM

So i pressed the auto calibrate earlier and then unclicked it after moving the stick. Ill try it again

Fr4Ged•4/9/24, 10:07 PM

you need to move the HATs, the finger brake etc as well

Mistic•4/9/24, 10:09 PM

And then I unclick auto calibrate and say store settings

Mistic•4/9/24, 10:09 PM

Just did that and still the same. I appreciate your help by the way ha

Fr4Ged•4/9/24, 10:11 PM

then you might need to calibrate this one I guess:

Fr4Ged•4/9/24, 10:11 PM

I don't know why your buttons are pressed though.
you might have to check the connectors between grip and base. don't know.
best to wait for Walmis's feedback on that.

Mistic•4/9/24, 10:12 PM

yea so those go to 0 / 0 and do not budge. While in calibration

Fr4Ged•4/9/24, 10:12 PM

yeah, I suspect something with the connector then.
worked straight when I connected my Constellation Alpha

Mistic•4/9/24, 10:13 PM

interesting. And then yea I can put my grip on my old virpil base and it just works so might be a connector issue

Not the amount of forward stick I need to hold just to fly level it isn’t, and my previous base (Win

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