jealous AF for your experience, thanks a lot for these insights mate. By all means share more - DCS

jealous AF for your experience, thanks a lot for these insights mate. By all means share more - DCS Huey is still my favourite despite it being old (not unlike myself lol).
Did you use force trim and did your friend ever turn it on during cruise? If you did how stiff is the mag lock can you move it at all?

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Ice•4/9/24, 11:35 AM

So, he turned off the force trim pretty much as soon as we started flying. We used the friction settings on the stick in the helicopter to get a little bit of hold and resistance but that’s it.

Ice•4/9/24, 11:35 AM

With the friction in the software set to about 20-25% and force trim turned off, that’s about what the real one felt like.

Ice•4/9/24, 11:36 AM

But of course you could change the friction setting in the real one, but that’s where we had it set when we did my flight.

Ice•4/9/24, 11:37 AM

I only felt what it was like with force trim for a brief moment, but with spring force set to about 60% and force trim turned on in the software, that’s about what I remember

I/JG7_Moto•4/9/24, 1:13 PM

I fly a warbird in real life, flight simmer 25 years, love the Rhino, but my only complain with the Rhino is as follows (maybe its just settings) What setting can I use so the controls get a lot more resistance when I go at high speed (DCS warbirds) I know it cannot get as stiff as in a real warbird, but the difference of resistance between slow speed and high speed could be more noticeable, is there a setting that can help achieve this? Also I notice the ailerons get pretty ok resistance , and the elevator has kind of a mushy feel, where I need to pull backwards a lot and does not have as much resistance compared to the ailerons, IRL it is instant and there is no mushy feel at all.

II/JG7_Moto I fly a warbird in real life, flight simmer 25 years, love the Rhino, but my onl...

walmis•4/9/24, 1:22 PM

Next versions of telemFFB + Rhino firmware will be able to realize this feature more dynamically. Currently you can increase spring gain overall using the spring gain tool:
The curve in pic increases the spring gain to 200%, for example. Beware: Too much gain will deteriorate the feedback loop stability.

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corbu1•4/9/24, 1:36 PM

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I/JG7_Moto•4/9/24, 1:36 PM

Thanks, but if I increase the spring gain, will it still have not too much resistance at slow speeds?

walmis•4/9/24, 1:43 PM

It would have double the resistance of the previous feel

Wwalmis It would have double the resistance of the previous feel

I/JG7_Moto•4/9/24, 1:45 PM

But will double the resistance along the full range? from slow to high speed? to me slow speeds resistance is spot on, dont want that to get stiffer

walmis•4/9/24, 1:46 PM

That's the only workaround currently, to get more dynamic range we'll need to add spring stiffening to telemFFB

Wwalmis That's the only workaround currently, to get more dynamic range we'll need to ad...

I/JG7_Moto•4/9/24, 1:49 PM

So that is in the plans for next Telem version?

walmis•4/9/24, 1:50 PM

Yeah, it's on the roadmap

Number481•4/9/24, 1:50 PM

2 Weeks (TM)

I/JG7_Moto•4/9/24, 1:50 PM

Awesome, that would make a ton of difference and add realism

NNumber481 2 Weeks (TM)

I/JG7_Moto•4/9/24, 1:51 PM

Cant wait to try this out

BBozo VFA-86 whats the deal with dcs f15e strike eagle? stick is limp

MashedPotato•4/9/24, 1:52 PM

DCS bug, not limited to the strike eagle, the only way I've found to fix it is restarting game client

mmcmah•4/9/24, 1:57 PM

Hello everyone. My number is close and I'm trying to decide whether to purchase or not. I've decided that I'd like to continue to use my Puma X controls. Has anyone been able to figure out a way to mount the Rhino on the Puna frame and use the Puma electronics for cyclic, collective and pedals?

II/JG7_Moto I fly a warbird in real life, flight simmer 25 years, love the Rhino, but my onl...

WhereNoLarkFlew•4/9/24, 2:33 PM

Do you feel like the Rhino needs more power? It’s the only thing I’m worried about currently.

WhereNoLarkFlew•4/9/24, 2:35 PM

Other options are coming that offer higher powered motors.

WWhereNoLarkFlew Do you feel like the Rhino needs more power? It’s the only thing I’m worried abo...

I/JG7_Moto•4/9/24, 2:44 PM

Is not that I feel it does not have enough power, if you increase spring gain it gets stiff, but across the whole range, even at slow speeds, seems to be the next version of Telem will take care of it.

WWhereNoLarkFlew Do you feel like the Rhino needs more power? It’s the only thing I’m worried abo...

MashedPotato•4/9/24, 3:14 PM

The Rhino has a ton of power as it is, as the other dude said, it just needs a better force curve with warbirds. But Walmis and Number481 are working on that now.

The amount of force that the "other options" are advertising seems downright dangerous, compared to sim racing peripherals. Like wrist breaking if the aircraft does something unexpected or you forget to let go in a crash, or there's a loss of telemetry levels of dangerous.

AndyHill•4/9/24, 3:28 PM

I think the issue with warbirds is that the curve saturates at fairly low speeds so you don't get a lot of dynamic range

IIce I attempted 3 hovers, my second was pretty decent. First and third I handed the ...

BAKE•4/9/24, 4:01 PM

I had a similar experience when i did a discovery flight in an R22,
I had lots of RC helicopter experience at the time, no real stick time tho. Second time in a heli. First was a Tour over the grand canyon.
The instructor took us up, showed me the coastal sites, then asked if i wanted to take the stick. Absolutely!

I did some figure 8s, orbited the airport while maintaining airspeed and alt. All of that was easy.
Then lets try some hovering.
We parked about 3-5ft over the landing pad, and she started handing me controls one by one.
Collective, then cyclic. There was a small miscommunication on the anti-torque however, as I never "took control" but my feet rested on them to try to feel what she was doing.
Turns out she wasn't doing anything, so we were doing pirouettes over the landing pad and i was maintaining the hover within the 10 foot 'H' circle, while spinning around. Not super fast out of control, but fast enough to do a 360 in 6-10 seconds.
She kept telling me I'm doing great and how impressed she was, I'm wondering why we are starting on hardmode, fighting for my life to keep the helicopter over this little circle as we are spinning around and around.

I know she was blowing smoke up my ass, but felt really good to hear that I did better than all of her students with 30+ hours of experience. And she couldn't believe this was my first flight.

mmcmah•4/9/24, 5:14 PM

I searched for Puma and found scant few messages. I'm assuming no one here has incorporated the Puma controls into a Rhino setup? If so, any comments would be appreciated. Thank you.

II/JG7_Moto Is not that I feel it does not have enough power, if you increase spring gain it...

WhereNoLarkFlew•4/10/24, 12:20 AM

Good deal, I'm about 80 to go in the queue - wondering if this is going to be overpriced and obsolete in a year. If you fly warbirds and it gets your stamp of approval, then that's something.

MMashedPotato The Rhino has a ton of power as it is, as the other dude said, it just needs a b...

WhereNoLarkFlew•4/10/24, 12:21 AM

Yeah that's a big point in the favor of the Rhino is the software seems like it's quite good. With the growing number of owners it also seems like there's going to be a lot of profiles for different aircraft, let alone the updates that are coming from Walmis and company.

WWhereNoLarkFlew Good deal, I'm about 80 to go in the queue - wondering if this is going to be ov...

I/JG7_Moto•4/10/24, 12:36 AM

I think the Rhino is great, that was my only complaint and is going to addressed , I really enjoy it, the stall buffeting is just like a real plane, also the flaps, and gear movement, machine guns and cannons I suppose so, never fired those IRL

The engine rumble is great too, you will enjoy it for sure.

II/JG7_Moto I think the Rhino is great, that was my only complaint and is going to addressed...

Col. Sanders•4/10/24, 1:35 AM

What type(s) of warbird do you fly? Cool to hear from someone who has hands on experience. I don't think my Cessna flying qualifies me to know if it feels real

Sunshine•4/10/24, 1:53 AM

So what is the latest on the MFG Crosswind FFB kits? I filled out the pre-order

Ice•4/10/24, 2:09 AM

In DCS, if myself and a buddy are in a multicrew helicopter together and he has control and is flying, will my Rhino follow his stick movements?

Ice•4/10/24, 2:09 AM

I believe in DCS it replicates the stick movements on your end if you watch the stick or the RCTRL + Enter controls window

SSunshine So what is the latest on the MFG Crosswind FFB kits? I filled out the pre-order

WhereNoLarkFlew•4/10/24, 2:57 AM

Probably getting closer all things considered.

IIce I believe in DCS it replicates the stick movements on your end if you watch the ...

Sunshine•4/10/24, 2:59 AM

I have the Brunner stick base, I was CP/G, my friend was the pilot, my stick was not following him, except when he did the force trim, my stick jumped to his new position in the Apache.

WWhereNoLarkFlew Probably getting closer all things considered.