I've tried to word this as best I can but I'm struggling so I'll keep it short... What if we just bu

I've tried to word this as best I can but I'm struggling so I'll keep it short... What if we just built the base images ourselves in this instance? We can help improve this as a base and utilize it as a submodule when we go to build our main images. Completely untether ourselves from ostree-desktops/the official images

j0rge•4/20/24, 5:36 PM

Yeah, I can see use cases for that.

j0rge•4/20/24, 5:38 PM

Like what if main/hwe were just all composed in one step and the bazzifinrora was the first FROM

EyeCantCUOP•4/20/24, 5:38 PM

I certainly can, especially if aarch64 images are indefinitely on the back burner

EyeCantCUOP•4/20/24, 5:38 PM

That would be amazing

j0rge•4/20/24, 5:38 PM

a person at github who can help us with arm builders just put bluefin on her laptop.

j0rge•4/20/24, 5:39 PM

it's only a matter of time, we'll get our builders, but it would be nice to ensure we got what we need ahead of time so when we do get them we're not stuck

Jj0rge a person at github who can help us with arm builders just put bluefin on her lap...

Robert•4/20/24, 5:40 PM

I'm sure I've asked before, but cannot remember the answer.
We can build ARM docker images already using the

arch:

arch:

parameter in the build workflows. Is this not suitable for us?

j0rge•4/20/24, 5:40 PM

@bsherman colin seemed to resonate with the coreOS kernel idea and a weekly cadence. But when I mentioned recomposing silverblue from the bottom up he was pretty much "yeah that's a lot of work"

EyeCantCUOP•4/20/24, 5:41 PM

That would be amazing. Definitely want to make sure we're good to go but unfortunately, it sounds like upstream is in limbo with getting ARM images out the door right now (they have everything set up for it but just aren't building them)

RRobert I'm sure I've asked before, but cannot remember the answer. We can build ARM doc...

EyeCantCUOP•4/20/24, 5:41 PM

Yeah, I have a PR for this

Robert•4/20/24, 5:41 PM

By "yeah" do you mean it doesn't work? Or we're trying to get it merged?

EyeCantCUOP•4/20/24, 5:42 PM

It doesn't work because aarch64 images aren't being built upstream

Gerblesh•4/20/24, 5:42 PM

# Phase: pre-install
# Populate the initial rootfs directory; the /workdir is a temporary volume defined to not be on overlayfs
# so that we can e.g. set SELinux labels and file capabilities
RUN --mount=type=cache,target=/var/cache/dnf,z --mount=type=cache,target=/workdir rm -rf /workdir/rootfs && /src/build/install-imagedir /src/bootc-${VARIANT} /workdir/rootfs

# Phase: pre-install
# Populate the initial rootfs directory; the /workdir is a temporary volume defined to not be on overlayfs
# so that we can e.g. set SELinux labels and file capabilities
RUN --mount=type=cache,target=/var/cache/dnf,z --mount=type=cache,target=/workdir rm -rf /workdir/rootfs && /src/build/install-imagedir /src/bootc-${VARIANT} /workdir/rootfs

Niklas ⚡•4/20/24, 5:42 PM

whoah, i feel pressured to do it with that headline

Niklas ⚡•4/20/24, 5:42 PM

lmao

Niklas ⚡•4/20/24, 5:42 PM

i love markdown formatting

Gerblesh•4/20/24, 5:42 PM

Yeah...

EEyeCantCU I've tried to word this as best I can but I'm struggling so I'll keep it short.....

EyeCantCUOP•4/20/24, 5:49 PM

Going to mess with this idea a bit this weekend. After I get Wolfi images in a good state

Jj0rge @bsherman colin seemed to resonate with the coreOS kernel idea and a weekly cade...

bsherman•4/20/24, 5:50 PM

yeah, that's what I would expect.

EEyeCantCU Going to mess with this idea a bit this weekend. After I get Wolfi images in a g...

j0rge•4/20/24, 5:52 PM

did something break with the wolfi boxes?

Jj0rge did something break with the wolfi boxes?

EyeCantCUOP•4/20/24, 5:52 PM

No, I just really want to roll out apko based images. Apologies for the confusing wording

j0rge•4/20/24, 5:53 PM

this sbom stuff would be great to highlight in our talk too, great infra feature!

EyeCantCUOP•4/20/24, 5:53 PM

For sure!

EEyeCantCU No, I just really want to roll out apko based images. Apologies for the confusin...

j0rge•4/20/24, 5:53 PM

I met Ariadne and the entire crew at OSS Summit.

GGerblesh ``` # Phase: pre-install # Populate the initial rootfs directory; the /workdir i...

Gerblesh•4/20/24, 5:53 PM

This could get rid of the bind mounting workaround for stuff like swtpm and waydroid

Jj0rge I met Ariadne and the entire crew at OSS Summit. 😄

EyeCantCUOP•4/20/24, 5:53 PM

That's awesome! I had thought about going for a while

GGerblesh This could get rid of the bind mounting workaround for stuff like swtpm and wayd...

bsherman•4/20/24, 5:54 PM

i think it could be a solution for the new problems with F40 builds

j0rge•4/20/24, 5:58 PM

ok lets hurry then and rewrite the project before kyle wakes up

Jj0rge ok lets hurry then and rewrite the project before kyle wakes up

fiftydinar•4/20/24, 5:58 PM

Kyle sleeps?

j0rge•4/20/24, 5:58 PM

he'll have a framework 16 soon, so I'm thinking nope.

j0rge•4/20/24, 6:15 PM

j0rge•4/20/24, 6:15 PM

I wish ostree would have this UX

HikariKnight•4/20/24, 6:18 PM

too convenient

HikariKnight•4/20/24, 6:18 PM

Niklas ⚡•4/20/24, 6:18 PM

If it just had diffs for images then I'd be happy already lmao

j0rge•4/20/24, 6:42 PM

j0rge•4/20/24, 6:42 PM

on the bottom of one of our issues, this is amazing.

EEyeCantCU That would be amazing. Definitely want to make sure we're good to go but unfortu...

Bigpod•4/20/24, 7:41 PM

I think we could build them from gitlab repo but that would require quite a bit of work

Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)•4/20/24, 8:31 PM

Hey folks, consider submitting a talk/meetup/etc. to DevConf.US about cool UBlue things you're doing! It's in Boston, MA on August 14-16. The CFP ends on April 22. https://www.devconf.info/us/

DevConf.US

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j0rge•4/20/24, 8:36 PM

oh I submitted to this one and then it got cancelled, good to see it back

Kyle Gospo•4/20/24, 8:36 PM

@j0rge remind me to send you my proposal I did for scale

Kyle Gospo•4/20/24, 8:37 PM

Could retool it for elsewhere

j0rge•4/20/24, 8:37 PM

I won't have time for this one, my travel schedule is basically set for 2024.

Kyle Gospo•4/20/24, 8:37 PM

Could be good for GH

j0rge•4/20/24, 8:37 PM

oh yeah I'll use it for sure

j0rge•4/20/24, 8:38 PM

I can do RH Summit (in a few weeks) with colin and then hopefully both of us for Github Universe. It would be nice to get others out there talking.

j0rge•4/20/24, 8:39 PM

I did the math on how long the weekend actually lasted

j0rge•4/20/24, 8:39 PM

j0rge•4/20/24, 8:39 PM

1,016 days

Jj0rge 1,016 days

Kyle Gospo•4/20/24, 8:40 PM

Ladies and gentlemen the mythical man month

# Phase: pre-install # Populate the initial rootfs directory; the /workdir is a temporary volume defined to not be on overlayfs # so that we can e.g. set SELinux labels and file capabilities RUN --mount=type=cache,target=/var/cache/dnf,z --mount=type=cache,target=/workdir rm -rf /workdir/rootfs && /src/build/install-imagedir /src/bootc-${VARIANT} /workdir/rootfs

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