because 80 is the default for http? - Program Dream

<Tim>

<<Tim>because 80 is the default for http?

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keith•4/25/24, 12:05 AM

if ur using ssl, it's secured isn't it

keith

Kkeith if ur using ssl, it's secured isn't it

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<Tim>OP•4/25/24, 10:35 AM

that's only afterwards

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<Tim>OP•4/25/24, 10:36 AM

I got it working. ANd I don't really know why it works now and not for the previous configs I tried

maybe it was the order and I had to specify the most specific one at first and then the generic one..

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<Tim>OP•4/25/24, 10:36 AM

server {
    listen 80;
    server_name 132.231.1.166;

    location /websocket {
        proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
        proxy_set_header Connection "upgrade";
        proxy_set_header HOST $host;
        proxy_set_header X_Forwarded_For $remote_addr;
        proxy_pass http://localhost:8080;
        proxy_redirect default;
        client_max_body_size 1000m;
    } 

    location / {
        proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8080/;
        proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Host $host;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Server $host;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
    }
}

server {
    listen 80;
    server_name 132.231.1.166;

    location /websocket {
        proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
        proxy_set_header Connection "upgrade";
        proxy_set_header HOST $host;
        proxy_set_header X_Forwarded_For $remote_addr;
        proxy_pass http://localhost:8080;
        proxy_redirect default;
        client_max_body_size 1000m;
    } 

    location / {
        proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8080/;
        proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Host $host;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Server $host;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
    }
}

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<Tim>OP•4/25/24, 10:38 AM

and yeah I typed localhost one time and once 127.0.0.1

but I aint touching that file anymore xD

not rob

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not rob•4/25/24, 8:45 PM

clear cache?

Dexten

DDexten i use cloudfare btw

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<Tim>OP•4/25/24, 9:44 PM

have you cleared the cloudflare cache? in the control panel on their website there is an option for it

not rob

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not rob•4/26/24, 2:34 PM

$50 for just paypal? huh

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not rob•4/26/24, 2:35 PM

How long does it take you to integrate them? Does he have the rest of the code (e.g. backend) for authentication in place and just needs the payment providers to be integrated? @Anonymous Gam-Beats

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AAnonymous Gam-Beats Hello, I have a question regarding how much I should charge, I have a client he ...

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<Tim>OP•4/26/24, 3:43 PM

sounds like a fair price. But you aren't using any libraries, shop systems, etc on the backend?

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<Tim>OP•4/26/24, 3:45 PM

If yes and if this was requested/given by the client, I think you should probably even charge more. On the hand as this is your first time, it's a bit of a different story. I - as a customer - would expect that it is done professionally with high security standards. If you can't hold up to this expectation, I would communicate it, charge less and take it as a learning experience for yourself

<Tim>

<<Tim>sounds like a fair price. But you aren't using any libraries, shop systems, etc ...

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not rob•4/26/24, 3:47 PM

That's incredibly cheap lol

not rob

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not rob•4/26/24, 3:47 PM

$50 gets you like 20 mins of engineering time

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<Tim>OP•4/26/24, 3:50 PM

yup, so if you're using a shop system and it's just a few clicks, the price is fine

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<Tim>OP•4/26/24, 3:51 PM

But it doesn't sound like it. So I assume it takes at least 5h to integrate it? Then I would charge 400€+

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not rob•4/26/24, 3:53 PM

:kekw:

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<Tim>OP•4/26/24, 3:57 PM

yeah, I saw that and fixed it. The word "payments" was blocked

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not rob•4/26/24, 3:58 PM

Me when I work on pa***nt systems

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<Tim>OP•4/26/24, 4:00 PM

depends, I integrated PayPal in a PHP web project using a library and it was like 8h in total, including setting up a developer account and testing the pingbacks etc

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not rob•4/26/24, 4:01 PM

Was it just simple payments or more complex things with e.g. subscriptions, triggering payments on demand without a specific user interaction, etc.?

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<Tim>OP•4/26/24, 4:05 PM

it was for subscriptions. Basically you can buy different packages on that page and they last for a year and then auto-renew

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not rob•4/26/24, 4:05 PM

Sounds very quick, good job

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<Tim>OP•4/26/24, 4:06 PM

yeah I was surprised as well. The paypal API has good documentation (and the plugin did most of the work anyway)

not rob

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not rob•4/26/24, 4:06 PM

Oh there was a plugin, right

keith

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keith•4/26/24, 7:34 PM

I'd charge at least $60 if it took you 3hrs

keith

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keith•4/26/24, 7:34 PM

that's a good baseline

not rob

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not rob•4/26/24, 7:41 PM

Why the heck is everyone so charging these low hourly rates?

not rob

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not rob•4/26/24, 7:41 PM

A normal engineer for professional services is like 180 an hour + tax

not rob

Nnot rob Why the heck is everyone so charging these low hourly rates? 💀

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<Tim>OP•4/27/24, 7:46 AM

I guess because most people here are young & inexperienced. If you're below 18 and/or you didn't finish university or similar yet, you simple can't charge the industry standard.

not rob

Nnot rob A normal engineer for professional services is like 180 an hour + tax

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<Tim>OP•4/27/24, 7:47 AM

More like 120-140€/hour in my experience, at least for web dev work in Germany

<Tim>

<<Tim>More like 120-140€/hour in my experience, at least for web dev work in Germany

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not rob•4/27/24, 7:48 AM

We used to charge 150 an hour in Germany but that was almost 10 years ago

<Tim>

<<Tim>I guess because most people here are young & inexperienced. If you're below 18 a...

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not rob•4/27/24, 7:49 AM

$20 an hour still seems low, even for students

not rob

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not rob•4/27/24, 7:49 AM

But you do you, good to see people work in general

not rob

Nnot rob We used to charge 150 an hour in Germany but that was almost 10 years ago

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<Tim>OP•4/27/24, 7:50 AM

Lol really? What kind of work was that? What I heard from other agencies is mostly 130€/h. And we charge 120€/h which already seemed much to me, because it was a big increase from the 90€/h we used to charge the previous years.

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not rob•4/27/24, 7:51 AM

It was professional services for data migration etc. (and custom development of stuff on our platform)

not rob

Nnot rob $20 an hour still seems low, even for students

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<Tim>OP•4/27/24, 7:52 AM

I think it's based on average jobs for students have wages of below 20€/$ per hour, so they base the price for freelance work on that as well

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<<Tim>I think it's based on average jobs for students have wages of below 20€/$ per ho...

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not rob•4/27/24, 7:52 AM

I need to lower pay for our working students then

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<Tim>OP•4/27/24, 7:53 AM

What do they get?

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<Tim>OP•4/27/24, 7:53 AM

Here they usually just get minimal wage, maybe + 1 or 2 € at max

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not rob•4/27/24, 7:53 AM

Mostly depends on skill but something between 25 and 35 an hour

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<Tim>OP•4/27/24, 7:54 AM

Damn

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<Tim>OP•4/27/24, 7:54 AM

For bachelor or master?

<Tim>

<<Tim>For bachelor or master?

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not rob•4/27/24, 7:54 AM

Doesn't matter as long as they know their shit

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not rob•4/27/24, 7:55 AM

Tech salaries here in Germany are pretty low in general tbf

server {
    listen 80;
    server_name 132.231.1.166;

    location /websocket {
        proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
        proxy_set_header Connection "upgrade";
        proxy_set_header HOST $host;
        proxy_set_header X_Forwarded_For $remote_addr;
        proxy_pass http://localhost:8080;
        proxy_redirect default;
        client_max_body_size 1000m;
    } 

    location / {
        proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8080/;
        proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Host $host;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Server $host;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
    }
}

server {
    listen 80;
    server_name 132.231.1.166;

    location /websocket {
        proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
        proxy_set_header Connection "upgrade";
        proxy_set_header HOST $host;
        proxy_set_header X_Forwarded_For $remote_addr;
        proxy_pass http://localhost:8080;
        proxy_redirect default;
        client_max_body_size 1000m;
    } 

    location / {
        proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8080/;
        proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Host $host;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Server $host;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
    }
}