This question confuses me? A 4 way hat switch is technically 4 buttons mapped Up, Left, Down, Right

This question confuses me?

A 4 way hat switch is technically 4 buttons mapped Up, Left, Down, Right.

So far as I’m aware the original CM does not have push click hats (5 way).

So the hat switch should be picked up as 4 separate switch inputs.

Is it not working that way? Or what’s the behavior of the switches?

Sorry I can’t be more help but I’m setting up a T50CM next week so I’m watching to pick up tips and tricks along the way.

VVertigo (VIV)Is there any way to make the hat switches work as hats on my VPC T-50CM (not CM2...

TheAmazinGreat•5/4/24, 12:59 PM

This is just a question for my own knowledge but why do they need to be hats? Why can’t you use them as buttons?

TheAmazinGreat•5/4/24, 12:59 PM

Basically what touch of legend above me said lol

TTouch_Of_Legend This question confuses me? A 4 way hat switch is technically 4 buttons mapped U...

Vertigo (VIV)•5/4/24, 4:31 PM

You are correct. Its a minor thing, but if windows recognizes as a hat and not 4 buttons, it makes live a little easier, for instance in jo2key I can see a hat switch and direction which is easier to remember than button 23, or condor asks for a POV hat switch and I supposedly dont have any. Not a big deal, I can map them as 4 separate controls, just wondered if I could tweak that somewhere

VVertigo (VIV)You are correct. Its a minor thing, but if windows recognizes as a hat and not 4...

Touch_Of_LegendOP•5/4/24, 4:36 PM

Ahh cool maybe it can be suggested for an update?

Speaking of Telem updates I think there was one today!

Number481•5/4/24, 4:39 PM

did you try disabling these checkboxes?

NNumber481 did you try disabling these checkboxes?

Vertigo (VIV)•5/4/24, 4:54 PM

yes

thedicecooler•5/4/24, 7:14 PM

Does the winwing adapter have anything other than a 6pin to 5pin connector inside it?

AAileron_Hubbard Anyone have a winwing adapter fail on them? I checked the stick on the OG base a...

thedicecooler•5/4/24, 7:39 PM

I have the same problem with my winging adapter. @walmis response was to press it in really hard, but its a problem with how the the connector he uses in the adapter and the connector on the stick connect. Not sure if it's a depth problem or what. I can wiggle the connection and see my stick connect/disconnect fine but as soon as you tighten it, it's kind of hit/miss. If you get lucky and it's all tight, it works great, if it happens to spin (since there's no way to lock the spinning on the stick) then you lose the connection. If I connect a separate wire between the WW grip and the adapter, it is just fine. Im currently working on how to hack/fix it but have not been successful yet.

Tthedicecooler Does the winwing adapter have anything other than a 6pin to 5pin connector insid...

Aileron_Hubbard•5/4/24, 7:43 PM

@Kowalsky I don't believe so. Appears to just be 5 to 6 pin. It did connect for a brief moment when I was wiggling it but I can't get it to happen again. I also think it's a depth issue. Almost wondering if I can put something conductive inside the female side to make the connection but I'm afraid I'll damage the mail end. I did speaking with Walmis this morning and it sounds like I'll be getting a replacement. Walmis is the freaking man!

Wwalmis From the log it looks like the adapter is communicating with the base correctly....

thedicecooler•5/4/24, 10:57 PM

Still having the same problems. I've discovered that you if you wiggle the wire it connects/disconnects, it's not a solid connection, force doesnt fix it. It's hit or miss if I get it connected and tightened at the same time. As I fly, sometimes the stick rotates a bit (winwing problem) and that disturbs the wire enough to disconnect the stick. I have a 3ft PS/2 extention wire that I can plug from the stick directly to the base and no disconnect problem when wiggled.

VVertigo (VIV)yes

MichalK•5/5/24, 6:24 AM

From what i remember the CM Grip is wired differently than cm2 so the hat is not where the software expects. It should work with Thrustmaster mapping, that's what the original cm grip is using.

MMichalK From what i remember the CM Grip is wired differently than cm2 so the hat is not...

Touch_Of_LegendOP•5/5/24, 9:19 AM

Awesome I’m also going to try this!

Thanks to the both of you for figuring out an issue before I even had it lol

Touch_Of_LegendOP•5/5/24, 9:21 AM

Because yeah the CM has a normal single button on the “thumb press” instead of the Slew/sensor Hat the CM2’s have.

NNumber481 until the next TelemFFB release, you'll need to replace the export script in the...

harry•5/5/24, 10:19 AM

I did the update, and now it seems to work, I just wonder that my poti has no influence now. Before i just reduced spring by the poty and could fly heli. do i have to repeat some settings to get this working again. Please no rush with answering, enjoy your weekend and kind regards...

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:37 PM

So I just fired up my PC and have an odd issue - my Rhino appears to work and is "seen" by TelemFFB and WebUSB tool, but not within VPForce Configurator. Thoughts?

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:38 PM

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:38 PM

That is all I get.

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:39 PM

Still works fine in game. I've moved it from different USB ports and get the same thing.

DDAPA So I just fired up my PC and have an odd issue - my Rhino appears to work and is...

Bob Bushman•5/5/24, 5:48 PM

Just a random thought.
Anything like HidHide running and you forgot the let the stick visible to the configurator ?

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:54 PM

False alarm. I am running HidHide, but that wasn't it. On a hunch I powered down the PC completely and unplugged my USB cables and hubs and left them off for a minute, then powered it all back up. I noticed I was having odd issues with my HS70 wireless headset as well and figured that might be it....and it was.

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:55 PM

I need to engage brain before panic and asking questions.

Bob Bushman•5/5/24, 5:56 PM

Hardly hurts, and sometimes not asking can be much more expensive

DAPA•5/5/24, 5:57 PM

True!

Thanks for the suggestion!

Bob Bushman•5/5/24, 5:58 PM

Just only thing I could think of where it would work in some applications and not another, banged my head against that one myself once or twice

Bob Bushman•5/5/24, 6:01 PM

and thats one more for the block list

AndyHill•5/5/24, 6:02 PM

wow looks like a pretty sweet deal

Number481•5/5/24, 6:03 PM

Does it have FFB?

nz aviator•5/7/24, 12:47 AM

new issue with any ammount of periodic effects my stick will be constantly wiggling even not in game

legobirds•5/7/24, 6:02 AM

How to set up the Damper force in Heli trim mode? I wanted to have some strong damper force when holding the trim button in Apache. Now the problem is when holding the trim button, there is no force to hold the stick.

Llegobirds How to set up the Damper force in Heli trim mode? I wanted to have some strong d...

Number481•5/7/24, 10:47 AM

BSS_Shadow_73•5/7/24, 1:26 PM

Hi....I completed the Google Forms Preorder sheet back in Dec 2023 but am concerned that I can't find a confirmation email indicating being on the preorder list. Is there a way I can verify this? Thanks... Terry Swindle

Bob Bushman•5/7/24, 1:28 PM

You can pm the @VPforceBot with !info your@email.etc

Touch_Of_LegendOP•5/7/24, 1:45 PM

When you filled out the pre order form did you get an email reply?

(basically a copy of the form you filled out should have been emailed to you at that exact moment)

That email doesn’t confirm you’re on the list but that’s how the google docs work so I’d check for that first to be sure you didn’t make a mistake and forget to “submit” the form.

If you can indeed find the form.

I’d ping Walmis and ask him about it.

Good luck!

Touch_Of_LegendOP•5/7/24, 1:46 PM

Or yep use the bot!

That’s who sends the updates like “invoice sent” or “paid”

FlatSpin•5/7/24, 1:58 PM

@BSS_Shadow_73 or you can DM the bot and type !info youremailaddress

FLOW | 303•5/7/24, 7:40 PM

So I got my Pre-Order update and submitted my order request, but was wondering how long it takes to get the invoice for the selected items?

FFLOW | 303 So I got my Pre-Order update and submitted my order request, but was wondering h...

Touch_Of_LegendOP•5/7/24, 8:20 PM

If you order the DIY kit the bot will invoice you as soon as they have your order assembled and your shipping calculated.

My order took a total… of 4 freaking days. TOTAL.

I got lucky and probably ordered right when new stock arrived before it was earmarked for the next order.

It can take some time depending on what you order and if it’s in stock or not.

IF you are on the Official Rhino pre order the bot will message you when your unit is being build and see if you want to Pay or drop out of line.

A lot of folks must drop out of the line because I see it move pretty quick.

So it matters if you are DIY or if you are official pre order that determines how long the wait is.

Touch_Of_LegendOP•5/7/24, 8:20 PM

You can always ping Walmis and ask if you feel like you missed or lost your place but there’s also a bot for that

FLOW | 303•5/7/24, 8:28 PM

thanks

NNumber481 Click to see attachment

legobirds•5/8/24, 6:20 AM

Thank you! I've tried this and set Damper Instensity to 100%, but still felt so weak.

nz aviator•5/9/24, 6:31 AM

@walmis my stick is doing this. Seems to be proportional to the periodic effects slider. Currently at 50% but even at 5% it's noticeable

Nnz aviator @walmis my stick is doing this. Seems to be proportional to the periodic effect...

nz aviator•5/9/24, 6:32 AM

Nnz aviator Click to see attachment

walmis•5/9/24, 6:34 AM

Can you post debug and effects tabs also?

nz aviator•5/9/24, 6:34 AM

walmis•5/9/24, 6:36 AM

looks like there's a bunch of left over effects, probably from telemFFB ?
You can click reset all effects in telemFFB or restart DCS it will reset the FFB automatically

nz aviator•5/9/24, 6:39 AM

that seems to have got it. had done a pc reset and closed telem ffb. must have had some weird artifact happen. thank you for your help

Nnz aviator @walmis my stick is doing this. Seems to be proportional to the periodic effect...

Stryker990•5/9/24, 7:05 AM

Let your stick have some fun for once and dance a bit :HelenaSmile:

Fr4Ged•5/9/24, 10:14 AM

yeah, looked cute with the music playing in the background

LeLv30_Superbus•5/9/24, 11:16 AM

No. 0072 says hi! How do I pull the top part off the shaft? Only two of the four screws were in their threads and I was advised to insert a nut in the shaft to fix it. But my hands are too weak to pull the part out.

LLeLv30_Superbus No. 0072 says hi! How do I pull the top part off the shaft? Only two of the four...

walmis•5/9/24, 11:19 AM

You don't need to pull it out to add the nuts, just unscrew the connector and you will get full access

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