How the apache trim works is you get normal spring force, until you press trim up, after which all t

How the apache trim works is you get normal spring force, until you press trim up, after which all the springs dissappear and it turns into a dead stick

FFierce_Fire How the apache trim works is you get normal spring force, until you press trim u...

Piola•5/4/24, 1:57 PM

oh well I understand

Kkrbs Yeah Slaw kit would be nice. Is there thread with kits news? What collective do...

FlatSpin•5/4/24, 2:33 PM

it's been requested in #

wishlist

krbs•5/4/24, 3:23 PM

Over 900 Rhinos before me... considering my options. Is here somebody who can compare Rhino and rudder pedals with VPforce motors vs Brunner? I tried to ask some questions, so far didn't get any response so customer support not the best. What about FFB quality and how difficult it is to get the products up and running for the first time?

Fr4Ged•5/4/24, 3:31 PM

a load of people don't actually end up ordering the Rhino when their time is up. If you can wait half a year I'd just wait for the Rhino.
I can't compare it with the Brunner but have heard that the Brunner is a bit weaker

Fierce_FireOP•5/4/24, 3:38 PM

Or you can DIY if you can find someone with a 3d printer

Kkrbs Over 900 Rhinos before me... considering my options. Is here somebody who can co...

TheAmazinGreat•5/4/24, 4:21 PM

There is a guy selling the 3d printed parts in the DIY section, you just need to add electronics kit from Walmis

TheAmazinGreat•5/4/24, 4:22 PM

I believe EU only tho

Touch_Of_Legend•5/4/24, 4:23 PM

Or just ask @Will3D

He has both the Brunner and the Rhino and said he was ready to sell his Brunner gear after he finally got the Rhino set up.

So ask him his experiences

Touch_Of_Legend•5/4/24, 4:24 PM

(Don’t ask to buy his gear I was referencing his previous comments)

krbs•5/4/24, 5:55 PM

Ok thank you, I will ask @Will3D
DIY would be option, but I am not very manually capable

it would took me months to make something with uncertain result. So I would definitely preferer to buy something ready to use.

Kkrbs Ok thank you, I will ask @Will3D DIY would be option, but I am not very manuall...

Sudeebare•5/4/24, 8:52 PM

I'd happily buy a Rhino base kit if one were cleared for shipment outside the EU, along with the motor kit currently available.

FFr4Ged a load of people don't actually end up ordering the Rhino when their time is up....

.Eagle.•5/4/24, 10:28 PM

I hopethat is true because I have 800 before me lol

.Eagle.•5/4/24, 10:29 PM

I did the math and the average amount of rhinos a week is 8 , that pulls me in 25 months wait time

Fr4Ged•5/4/24, 10:42 PM

!status

FFr4Ged !status

VPforceBot•5/4/24, 10:42 PM

Hey @Fr4Ged,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0517 on 2024-05-03
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 209 days, median is 216 days, max is 407 days
505 Rhinos are shipped in total

..Eagle.I hopethat is true because I have 800 before me lol

bert•5/4/24, 11:03 PM

There are corrections to the queue sometimes, i signed up last September with position 466 and my unit was ready to ship 6 months later.

YYunacPL I've tried ACL in F14 yesterday on FFB and it's completely broken does anyone ha...

Torattacker•5/5/24, 10:04 AM

I cant use alc while using Rhione.The plane cant hold the right AOA.

krbs•5/5/24, 5:24 PM

I am wondering...do you have some special flight chair? I will need chair (not necessarily expensive one). Anyway it would be nice to get chair compatible with Virpil collective adapter so I can mount collective without modifications.
What chair do you have ?

Lance•5/5/24, 5:36 PM

Lance•5/5/24, 5:37 PM

So how do we figure out what position we are. I checked me email and it never told me. And i texted this bot 10 times and it just keeps saying it doesn't understand

Lance•5/5/24, 5:37 PM

Info

Lance•5/5/24, 5:37 PM

@info

Number481•5/5/24, 5:44 PM

It's not

@info

@info

it is

!info <your email>

!info <your email>

Lance•5/5/24, 5:50 PM

It still doesn't understand

Lance•5/5/24, 5:51 PM

Is there not a way to find our order number somehow? It was never emailed to us?

Lance•5/5/24, 5:51 PM

I thought i screen shotted it but cant find it somehow

Fr4Ged•5/5/24, 5:52 PM

do it in a single line like shown by Number

Lance•5/5/24, 5:53 PM

I did on the first reply

Lance•5/5/24, 5:53 PM

The 2nd reply i hit the space bar

LLance I did on the first reply

Number481•5/5/24, 5:53 PM

theres no space between !info!info and your email (P.S... your email still shows in the replies by the bot in your screenshot)

Fr4Ged•5/5/24, 5:53 PM

leave space between info and mail but in one line

Lance•5/5/24, 5:54 PM

Nice

Lance•5/5/24, 5:54 PM

Lmao

Lance•5/5/24, 5:54 PM

Ok ill try again

Fr4Ged•5/5/24, 5:54 PM

I am also pretty certain that you won't get a mail about your position.
just confirmation that you are on the list and then when you are able to order.

Lance•5/5/24, 5:55 PM

Got it thanks

Lance•5/5/24, 5:55 PM

Once i hit retirement i should be able to order it looks like

Lance•5/5/24, 5:56 PM

Lance•5/5/24, 5:57 PM

Has there been any talk about maybe ffb for the new winwing pedals?

Lance•5/5/24, 5:58 PM

Just got them a couple weeks ago

AndyHill•5/5/24, 5:58 PM

the prediction is quite pessimistic, people drop out of the queue so you'll get yours probably a fair bit sooner than that

Lance•5/5/24, 5:58 PM

Yeah i definitely see how people will drop out. A lot of money for a long time away to hope you are still in the hobby lol

Lance•5/5/24, 5:59 PM

But when im 850 away and only 500 have been shipped, ( in the last 5 years?) it doesn't look the best

Number481•5/5/24, 6:00 PM

Actually, no. About 420 have been shipped in the last 12 months.

AndyHill•5/5/24, 6:00 PM

it's more like 2 years and the pace is improving

Number481•5/5/24, 6:01 PM

I got #85 at the beginning of may ‘23. And production has ramped significantly since then.

Kkrbs I am wondering...do you have some special flight chair? I will need chair (not n...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/5/24, 6:44 PM

MT sims makes the best flight chair.

https://www.mtsim.com/product-category/chairs/

NLR also makes one with its rigs

https://nextlevelracing.com/products/boeing-combat-flight-simulator/

All of those have the center stick cut out.

There are some others but mainly I’ve seen those two (NLR one is apparently not very comfy while the MT sims is highly rated but also more expensive)

MTSIM USA

Chairs – MTSIM USA

Next Level Racing

Flight Simulator Boeing Military Edition

Bozo VFA-86•5/5/24, 7:15 PM

all of them have the high back which inteferes with head movement in vr

Bob Bushman•5/5/24, 7:21 PM

With it being narrow and flat, its not an issue at all.
Compared to the usual more racing inspired gaming chairs that tend to trap you in. These encourage more manoeuvrability.
( I have the boeing one)
I honestly prefer the thin, flat, high back to the low back chair I could otherwise use.

Bozo VFA-86•5/5/24, 7:22 PM

yea i have the next level boeing style but older...f1gt...hat to cut the top off...kept hitting the back of the pimax crystal during dogfight

How the apache trim works is you get normal spring force, until you press trim up, after which all t

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