not all the issues were kernel related, I remember one time there was an update that defaulted the L

not all the issues were kernel related, I remember one time there was an update that defaulted the Legion Go's gamescope-session refresh rate values as

60,120

60,120

60,120

60,120.
Which broke literally every single game in gamescope-session until it was fixed to

60,144

60,144

60,144

60,144
LGO screen is 144hz

AAru not all the issues were kernel related, I remember one time there was an update ...

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:26 PM

I know not all issues are kernel related, which is why I prefer atomic's approach

AruOP•5/9/24, 8:26 PM

and GE owns a Legion Go

AruOP•5/9/24, 8:26 PM

so that update was an unpleasant surprise

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:26 PM

Just saying, there's at least some credit due.

AAru so that update was an unpleasant surprise

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:27 PM

Yeah that's frustrating

AruOP•5/9/24, 8:28 PM

but note, I also speak from the perspective of someone who's been helping a lot of other users for to troubleshoot. I maintain the legion-go-tricks repo, and Nobara was definitely more troublesome to support for everyday users.

AruOP•5/9/24, 8:28 PM

bazzite is much more friendly for non-technical users, can't expect everyone to know how to setup timeshift, track down regressions, etc

wolfyreload•5/9/24, 8:29 PM

He has done awesome work for the linux gaming community with ProtonGE, also Bazzite uses a bunch of stuff that he did. So yeah definitely great work there. But I like this Atomic Desktop thing

AruOP•5/9/24, 8:29 PM

but Nobara is definitely much easier to do custom kernel stuff, e.g. kernel bisects are far easier on Nobara

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:29 PM

Oh yeah GE's work is great

AAru but Nobara is definitely much easier to do custom kernel stuff, e.g. kernel bise...

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:30 PM

That's the benefit of something lot image based, you're less "constrained" to the image.

AruOP•5/9/24, 8:30 PM

I think Bazzite is better from a user support perspective, Nobara is better if you require a lot of flexibility in managing your system.

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:30 PM

Possibly on slower connections and older hardware I'd argue too

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:30 PM

rpm-ostree is just kinda slow

wolfyreload•5/9/24, 8:31 PM

I think the speed will improve over time

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:31 PM

Oh it will

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:31 PM

But you will need to install those updates lul

wolfyreload•5/9/24, 8:31 PM

Yeah the 3GB updates twice a day is a bit much lol

AruOP•5/9/24, 8:32 PM

tbh on my daily drivers, nowadays I just rebase to specific bazzite versions and do an update every few weeks or so.

AruOP•5/9/24, 8:32 PM

I'm not looking for a daily rolling distro

AAru tbh on my daily drivers, nowadays I just rebase to specific bazzite versions and...

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:32 PM

I don't think I've updated my Steam Deck in 3 weeks

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:32 PM

BUT

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:32 PM

I've not used it much

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:33 PM

I'd recommend weekly-ish if you do use it more regularly

AruOP•5/9/24, 8:33 PM

eh, if Valve could get away with rolling old kernels for months at a time on SteamOS, I think Bazzite is fine for me with a monthly cadence.

wolfyreload•5/9/24, 8:33 PM

Yeah I turned off the auto updates but I've been updating so I can reproduce issues

AruOP•5/9/24, 8:34 PM

I have my LGO on latest stable to catch issues

AruOP•5/9/24, 8:34 PM

but everything else is pinned

AAru eh, if Valve could get away with rolling old kernels for months at a time on Ste...

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:34 PM

You can definitely do monthly, I'd just suggest more often if you can do it

antheas•5/9/24, 8:34 PM

i have an arch system and usually update every 3 weeks

antheas•5/9/24, 8:34 PM

or when i try to install a package and it has expired

antheas•5/9/24, 8:34 PM

which is every 2 weeks

Aantheas i have an arch system and usually update every 3 weeks

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:35 PM

I don't know if I installed too much BS but the one time I did this it just refused to work properly.

Aantheas i have an arch system and usually update every 3 weeks

wolfyreload•5/9/24, 8:35 PM

Yeah arch has like 1 GB of updates every hour

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:35 PM

This WAS back when I installed a lot of useless BS

antheas•5/9/24, 8:35 PM

always works except last update clicking became weird

antheas•5/9/24, 8:35 PM

so thats the way it is now

antheas•5/9/24, 8:36 PM

classic 14yo experience

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:36 PM

I tried installing arch on a laptop recently, I just got anxiety using it lmfao

Retro Gamaer•5/9/24, 8:36 PM

@antheas I can confirm that, after powering off the device. The 80% charge limit still applies while the device was turned off with charger connected.

antheas•5/9/24, 8:36 PM

perfect

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:36 PM

I'm not worried about my actions because I'm not too stupid but updates are scary

antheas•5/9/24, 8:36 PM

so i guess it only resets when it boots

wolfyreload•5/9/24, 8:38 PM

Must say the Bazzite community here on discord is quite friendly overall. Some of the Facebook Linux groups are quite bad

Wwolfyreload Must say the Bazzite community here on discord is quite friendly overall. Some o...

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:38 PM

I think Facebook may be the issue there haha

Retro Gamaer•5/9/24, 8:38 PM

I have been on Arch Linux for 14-15 years. Now I'm on Arch with Hyprland. Which I have a waybar which shows the number of package which have updates. Which makes me pacman -Syupacman -Syu more often.

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:38 PM

Most Linux groups I encounter are pretty welcoming.

Valerie•5/9/24, 8:39 PM

groups as in just online circles, not specifically facebook.

wolfyreload•5/9/24, 8:40 PM

I need to play with Arch again... in a vm so I can't break anything

VValerie groups as in just online circles, not specifically facebook.

Retro Gamaer•5/9/24, 8:40 PM

I deleted my Facebook account 5 years ago. Didn't use social media since then. But I installed Mastodon iOS app and logged back in to it recently.

not all the issues were kernel related, I remember one time there was an update that defaulted the L

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