Turn the master gain knob to full and fly for 30 mins, and they will kick in, Do I need full power?

Turn the master gain knob to full and fly for 30 mins, and they will kick in, Do I need full power? Hmm.. maybe not, but I do like it, and my PC room is still cool (it wont be this summer).

BBob Bushman From what I'd understood it would turn on at about 50c, and that is still far fr...

Vertigo (VIV)OP•5/10/24, 11:53 PM

Yeah I think its 50C, and there is some hysteresis, I think it turns off at 47 or so. But even with no power being applied, that takes a pretty long time and there doesnt seem to be any fan speed control, its either on or off? That this is a safe temp; sure, probably, but that doesnt change anything really.

Bob Bushman•5/10/24, 11:58 PM

I could be wrong, but I think the temps in question are internal motor temps.
And with these motors the casings are also used as heatsinks, great big lumps of them, so I'd expect they take a while to warm up and at least as long if not longer to dissipate, at least during use.

VVertigo (VIV)Turn the master gain knob to full and fly for 30 mins, and they will kick in, D...

Col. Sanders•5/11/24, 12:00 AM

My settings must be a lot different. My master gain is 100 and I flying for hours and never had it go on.

AndyHill•5/11/24, 12:01 AM

it depends a lot on what you fly and how

Vertigo (VIV)OP•5/11/24, 12:02 AM

yeah, but the casing, and Im assuming its just the stock stepper motor casing, doesnt have much surface area compared to some finned coolers. Gluing on some ribbed cooler could increase the surface area many fold and make the fan much more effective, assuming there is any room.

CCol. Sanders My settings must be a lot different. My master gain is 100 and I flying for hour...

Vertigo (VIV)OP•5/11/24, 12:08 AM

FWIW, I had been flying the P51 in DCS doing touch and goes. I think the engine rumble is main culprit, always active. But I do like the engine rumble

VVertigo (VIV)FWIW, I had been flying the P51 in DCS doing touch and goes. I think the engine ...

Col. Sanders•5/11/24, 12:19 AM

That's probably it. I keep my engine rumble lower as I have a haptic seat that does most of that for me.

CCol. Sanders That's probably it. I keep my engine rumble lower as I have a haptic seat that d...

FleshAndWater•5/11/24, 1:55 AM

haptic seat...please speak more of this haptic seat......

Col. Sanders•5/11/24, 2:43 AM

I have a very basic Hf8. I play IL2 mostly, but it really adds to the overall experience. I use Simshaker wings program to adjust the seat

VVertigo (VIV)FWIW, I had been flying the P51 in DCS doing touch and goes. I think the engine ...

Boggy•5/11/24, 7:42 AM

Interesting, I'll try to reduce the rumble and see what happens

CCol. Sanders My settings must be a lot different. My master gain is 100 and I flying for hour...

GarrafaBr•5/11/24, 7:57 AM

Hi, I also have the fan turning on very often. Would you mind sharing a screenshot of your VP Force effects and settings screen? I would like to compare if my gains or my filter values the ones causing the overheat. I recently even ditched the extention to get more force. Thank you.

jonner•5/11/24, 10:10 AM

!status

Jjonner !status

VPforceBot•5/11/24, 10:10 AM

Hey @jonner,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0525 on 2024-05-10
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 209 days, median is 215 days, max is 407 days
513 Rhinos are shipped in total

NNumber481 Sorry, I guess I’m out of ideas to try to help you. These are basic features of...

mac22443506•5/11/24, 1:53 PM

481 just in case your interested thought I would give u my feedback on using the rhino with the mh60 mod - basically managed to get the hardware trim working by applying the setting to the stick (can see force trim is working from the axis display ) but using it this way the helicopter takes in a nose down attitude (even trimmed fully back stick) - only way I can get it flyable (with force trim partly working) is disabling the hardware trim and assigning force trim binds in game (makes it flyable) - just my experience…..not sure if anyone else had a similar experiences?

nubbins•5/12/24, 7:13 AM

Any plan yet to update the VKB adapter to rev.C?

Nnubbins Any plan yet to update the VKB adapter to rev.C?

walmis•5/12/24, 7:13 AM

Already done

Wwalmis Already done

nubbins•5/12/24, 7:14 AM

beauty

now I wait patiently

Scarlet•5/12/24, 7:27 AM

How do people do their gooseneck extensions? Purchased product or DIY? If purchased, any good recommendations for vpc or winwing compatible ones?

TrigaNZ•5/12/24, 7:27 AM

Any Ideas then the update including the Virpil Blackhawk grip will drop?

Jon (Bounty_V)•5/12/24, 8:32 AM

I wish they made some cyclic grips as well

Scarlet•5/12/24, 8:34 AM

I think the VPC Mongoose is close to a lot of eurocopter cyclics. Other untility choppers have fairly generic cyclic grips

Wwalmis Already done

DarkestKnight 🇺🇸 | Ultimate•5/12/24, 8:41 AM

In laymen's terms, what do these adapters do? Is it possible to use Virpil sticks with the Rhino? Would I need an adapter like this? Does an adapter already exist?

Jon (Bounty_V)•5/12/24, 8:42 AM

faq

Jon (Bounty_V)•5/12/24, 8:43 AM

virpil works natively

tebinu•5/12/24, 9:22 AM

does anyone know of a compatible grip that is very generic both handed for general aviation?

DDarkestKnight 🇺🇸 | Ultimate In laymen's terms, what do these adapters do? Is it possible to use Virpil stick...

corbu1•5/12/24, 10:56 AM

You need adapters for winwing and VKB sticks. TM and Virpil work by default

JJon (Bounty_V)I wish they made some cyclic grips as well

corbu1•5/12/24, 10:57 AM

I was hoping for a AH-64 Virpil cyclic grip, but doesn‘t seem to happen

Ccorbu1 I was hoping for a AH-64 Virpil cyclic grip, but doesn‘t seem to happen

Piola•5/12/24, 12:34 PM

I think I'll try the MaxFlightSim collective, I'll let you know if and how it works

HrEple•5/12/24, 12:47 PM

https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-mongoost-50cm2-grip.html

The Mongoose cm2 grip is an all round «does it all” grip for both helis and planes that natively fits the Rhino.

VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip

★ Cyrillic Button Labels
★ Based on Modern Russian Fighter Jet Controls
★ Material - Enhanced PU Plastic Construction
★ Wide Variety of Buttons, Triggers and Hats
★ Analogue Brake Lever

Due to the height of the grip, it is best suited for desk mounted/cockpit setups.

HrEple•5/12/24, 12:50 PM

Virpils extensions also work natively.

Piola•5/12/24, 1:01 PM

I know but I don’t like that plastic

Fierce_Fire•5/12/24, 1:06 PM

Why?

HHrEple https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-mongoost-50cm2-grip.html The Mongoose cm2 grip i...

Fr4Ged•5/12/24, 1:17 PM

Has been out of stock permanently for months now though

HrEple•5/12/24, 1:17 PM

I can relate, but metal adds weight that eats force feedback and adds heat to the motors. All in all, I don’t really think about it while using it, and I came from a metal thrustmaster warthog grip

HrEple•5/12/24, 1:17 PM

I assume they’re updating the model then. Been out for a while - always always to improve the grips

HrEple•5/12/24, 1:18 PM

VK / Winwing also makes great stuff, I think.

Fierce_Fire•5/12/24, 1:23 PM

As a mcgu user, the only thing id change is move the body back to plastic tbh

Fierce_Fire•5/12/24, 1:23 PM

Reason i went with it was the other benefits it gave, but coming from the gladiator the mcgu feels cold in the hand

Piola•5/12/24, 2:54 PM

I wrote it wrong sorry, I don't like that TYPE of plastic

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 4:19 PM

You're supposed to hold it, not eat it.

Piola•5/12/24, 4:51 PM

Piola•5/12/24, 4:55 PM

the alpha prime gave me a different feeling, it seemed more solid, with the cm2 I had a better feeling with the grip but the plastic felt like one of those €2 Chinese toys. I'll point out, it's a personal opinion.

FFierce_Fire Reason i went with it was the other benefits it gave, but coming from the gladia...

Toddimus•5/12/24, 5:45 PM

Interesting. I actually like the cold metal of the MCGU. But I agree that it would lead to more work for the motors. Part of the reason I went DIY with the 8604 motors.

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 5:55 PM

I'm not so sure about the weight argument.
From googling the tm f16 grip is 350 grams, the listed weight for the cm2 is 340grams, I'll chuck mine on a scale when i get home but yeah, I wouldn't worry about weight difference.

For me the virpil costs $50 less and has significantly more buttons to bind giving increased flexibility.

Fierce_Fire•5/12/24, 6:09 PM

Well the mcgu has a direct plastic counterpart

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:24 PM

Put my cm2 on the scale now, and it clocks in at 356g.

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:31 PM

350 sounds very low for tm f16 grip

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:33 PM

if I had to guess I'd say it's something like 3 times the weight of the cm2

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:34 PM

of the top of my head, winwing f-16 grip and mcgu are soemthing like 600g, Cougar / Warthog are about 1kg

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:38 PM

Yeah, not going to put too much stock in my googling there.
Excusably I did it on my phone while waiting for my fried chicken.

Turn the master gain knob to full and fly for 30 mins, and they will kick in, Do I need full power?

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