@walmis Hi Walmis my Rhino stopped working in mid flight in IL2 I restarted PC, now works but no FFB

@walmis Hi Walmis my Rhino stopped working in mid flight in IL2
I restarted PC, now works but no FFB effects
I tried DCS and same , no FFB effects
I loaded the default profile from the VP Force configurator and no luck
disconnected, reconnected and no effects
Reset motors , no luck, seems like Telem wont communicate with the joystick
Any ideas on how to fix it?

II/JG7_Moto @walmis Hi Walmis my Rhino stopped working in mid flight in IL2 I restarted PC, ...

Number481•5/14/24, 2:46 AM

Are you talking about native FFB effects (i.e. dynamic spring, trim movement) or effects from TelemFFB (engine rumble, gunfire, etc)?

I/JG7_MotoOP•5/14/24, 2:47 AM

Effects from Telem, gunfire engine rumble

I/JG7_MotoOP•5/14/24, 2:57 AM

Looking

I/JG7_MotoOP•5/14/24, 2:58 AM

2024-05-13 14:12:29.168 - ERROR - joystick - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "ffb_rhino.py", line 513, in timerEvent
File "ffb_rhino.py", line 582, in readReports
File "hid.py", line 163, in read
File "hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall
hid.HIDException: ReadFile: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.

Number481•5/14/24, 3:02 AM

Can you post the whole log?

I/JG7_MotoOP•5/14/24, 3:07 AM

Posted it in our thread

Ice•5/14/24, 8:07 PM

Idk if it's a DCS issue, user error, or a TelemFFB issue, but sometimes in the Apache when you crash, of course the stick goes limp, but then when you spawn in new helicopter the stick just shoots all the way forward (smacked the shit out of my desk twice, thankfully not breaking anything). Then, your stick position is weirdly off center to the front about halfway to max forward deflection. The positon fixes itself after the helicopter turns on.

Ice•5/14/24, 8:07 PM

I think it's DCS setting the stick position to the middle of full pitch down when the helicopter is off, then after you turn it on, and wiggle the controls a bit, it recenters normally.

Ice•5/14/24, 8:08 PM

I've learned that once I die in the Apache to just hit the e-stop on the stick until I'm ready to fly.

Ice•5/14/24, 8:09 PM

I think this is the series of events: Die -> stick goes limp -> respawn -> DCS hastily moves the stick center to 50% pitch down (for some reason) -> Rhino tries to respond as quick as possible but massively overshoots the new center point.

Ice•5/14/24, 8:10 PM

It's fairly easy to reproduce. Just crash an Apache, let go of your rhino, and respawn. (I would not recommend fully letting go as that's why it hit my desk. Normally, my stick cannot touch my desk. About a .75in gap. It must have flexed the pastic Winwing adapter)

IIce Idk if it's a DCS issue, user error, or a TelemFFB issue, but sometimes in the A...

Number481•5/14/24, 8:16 PM

trying to think what telemffb effect could even cause this... "runway rumble" is the only one I an think of if the telemetry wigs out when you re-spawn. Quickest way to rule in/out TelemFFB though would be to try to reproduce without it running

NNumber481 trying to think what telemffb effect could even cause this... "runway rumble" i...

Ice•5/14/24, 8:17 PM

I could do that. I don't think it's a TelemFFB issue. I'm leaving heavily towards the "DCS-being-whack-as-hell" side of the equation.

Ice•5/14/24, 8:18 PM

Because the sticks position is being commanded by DCS. But oddly enough, in the configurator, when the stick is trying to maintain the 50% pitch down attitude, the center point is still showing the middle. Something is forcing the stick forward.

Number481•5/14/24, 8:19 PM

well, that would point to a "constant force" type effect (none of which are generated by DCS)

Ice•5/14/24, 8:19 PM

Could be.

Sup3rToc0!•5/14/24, 8:35 PM

Hey so I’m gunna need an outlet converter: UK power supply that needs to connect to US outlet. Do I only need a plug converter or also a voltage converter?

Hiob•5/14/24, 10:46 PM

I have a mechanics question. When I move the gimbal along either axis x or y, it moves nice and smooth. However, when I move it diagonally, I hear and feel a clicking/snapping sound. It doesn’t really hinder the function but is a bit irritating. Any ideas where it is coming from? I already ruled out the cable hitting the sides.

WhereNoLarkFlew•5/15/24, 1:30 AM

Threads are tore up from my gooseneck extension. Any way to have the metal replacement shipped to me? Haven’t had a chance to use the unit because of it.

WhereNoLarkFlew•5/15/24, 1:41 AM

It won’t accept anything at this point.

WWhereNoLarkFlew Threads are tore up from my gooseneck extension. Any way to have the metal repla...

Reed•5/15/24, 2:07 AM

Link to metal replacement

RReed Link to metal replacement

WhereNoLarkFlew•5/15/24, 2:39 AM

Are you asking me for the link? Sorry brother, don’t know it

WWhereNoLarkFlew Are you asking me for the link? Sorry brother, don’t know it

Reed•5/15/24, 2:45 AM

Toddimus•5/15/24, 4:22 AM

It's here, item number 13, but currently on backorder...
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSflUrHfM9AB0f-0WGyhOLxvXQNMr7E8TBDSYYJUBQ8kqaDC7g/viewform

Google Docs

VPforce Order Request

Order request for VPforce products.
Please note: to reserve a VPforce RHINO FFB base, please use reservation form here.

Once the order is ready to be fulfilled an invoice will be sent to the provided email address.

walmis•5/15/24, 5:30 AM

new batch is enroute, should arrive at the start of next week (or maybe by Friday)

SSup3rToc0!Hey so I’m gunna need an outlet converter: UK power supply that needs to connect...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/15/24, 9:05 AM

Are you on vacation?

If yes yep just use a plug it’s fine.

If this is for a permanent set up I would recommend buying a new power supply with the correct plug for the wall type.

That’s just going to be better and when you want to switch back to UK plugs you still have the power supply for it.

WWhereNoLarkFlew Threads are tore up from my gooseneck extension. Any way to have the metal repla...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/15/24, 9:08 AM

Damn those threads……….

Heavy extension do that?

HILOK•5/15/24, 9:09 AM

hi there, i've got a question regarding the GAIN function of the pot. how does the gain act with respect to the base setting slider? e.g. will it increase values above 100%, if the slider is set to 100% already? is there a recommendation where to set the slider, if the effect is also allocated to the GAIN pot?

HILOK•5/15/24, 9:09 AM

thanks

Touch_Of_Legend•5/15/24, 9:13 AM

The potentiometer gain (when you turn it up or down) has a MAX value as set by the software.

If on the software you have it set to (example) 47%

The knob on the potentiometer turns itself 0-100 but it’s max in put is 47% along the slider.

(So it can’t screw up the software hard stops)

It basically lowers the value to whatever you have set and at max = the value you set in the software.

There’s a decent explanation of how it works in Walmis Intro video but it’s easy to miss because it’s a long video and covers a lot of ground.

HHILOK hi there, i've got a question regarding the GAIN function of the pot. how does t...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/15/24, 9:13 AM

See above forgot to tag you sorry

TTouch_Of_Legend See above forgot to tag you sorry

HILOK•5/15/24, 9:16 AM

thanks a lot. very clear explanation! says it all

TTouch_Of_Legend Damn those threads………. Heavy extension do that?

WhereNoLarkFlew•5/15/24, 11:14 AM

I don’t know about ‘heavy’ it’s the same 200 mm gooseneck extension I’ve used on my Virpil base. Just sucks, was getting ready to try the Rhino and the very last step causes a problem.

Wwalmis ☝️ new batch is enroute, should arrive at the start of next week (or maybe by Fr...

WhereNoLarkFlew•5/15/24, 11:15 AM

That’s good news, have you ordered enough to satisfy demand?

WWhereNoLarkFlew I don’t know about ‘heavy’ it’s the same 200 mm gooseneck extension I’ve used on...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/15/24, 11:18 AM

Yeah man hopefully it gets fixed up soon and you can fly!

WWhereNoLarkFlew I don’t know about ‘heavy’ it’s the same 200 mm gooseneck extension I’ve used on...

Fr4Ged•5/15/24, 11:58 AM

you must have cross threaded it then if this wasn't even from using the Rhino.
I also use the 200mm Virpil extension just fine

slowmover•5/15/24, 12:39 PM

is there any way to remove this thing here? it is getting annoying

TTouch_Of_Legend Are you on vacation? If yes yep just use a plug it’s fine. If this is for a pe...

Sup3rToc0!•5/15/24, 1:03 PM

What kind of US power supply would I need to get? Like voltage and amps

SSup3rToc0!What kind of US power supply would I need to get? Like voltage and amps

walmis•5/15/24, 2:25 PM

The Rhino PSU is rated 100-230V so only the power plug is different

Wwalmis The Rhino PSU is rated 100-230V so only the power plug is different

Sup3rToc0!•5/15/24, 3:09 PM

The PSU is in the base right? And the plug is the cord with the box? Just want to be sure I understand

Sslowmover is there any way to remove this thing here? it is getting annoying

Toddimus•5/15/24, 3:15 PM

I’ve seen it sometimes too. Not always though. The little X doesn’t work, nor does clicking on it. It stays on top, no matter what.

TToddimus I’ve seen it sometimes too. Not always though. The little X doesn’t work, nor do...

slowmover•5/15/24, 3:21 PM

Yeap same problem here mate

Mach_Point_Yuh•5/15/24, 10:08 PM

My Constellation Alpha is being recognized by the webapp as a T50CM2, and I can't bind any buttons. Any suggestions?

Mach_Point_Yuh•5/15/24, 10:19 PM

Pitch and Roll work perfectly fine, but neither button nor hat inputs are recognized by any software. Additionally, the LED strip on top of the joystick doesn't turn on

Number481•5/15/24, 10:23 PM

You need to set the grip type in the configurator app.

LED functionality not supported.

Mach_Point_Yuh•5/15/24, 10:30 PM

Configurator app can see that the Rhino is plugged in, but same as before, no buttons work

Mach_Point_Yuh•5/15/24, 10:30 PM

I'm going to try reattaching the joystick to the base, I'll update if that works

Mach_Point_Yuh•5/15/24, 10:36 PM

Unplug/Replug didn't work, both the webtool and the Configurator think I'm using a T50CM2

Number481•5/15/24, 10:45 PM

It does not auto detect. You need to select the grip from the pull-down in configurator

Mach_Point_Yuh•5/15/24, 11:40 PM

Could you screenshot what you’re talking about? The only option the config seems to be a joystick I don’t own. Just trying to make sure I’m looking in the right place

@walmis Hi Walmis my Rhino stopped working in mid flight in IL2 I restarted PC, now works but no FFB

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