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pazerval

Ppazerval It's not my account, but apparently I have all the permissions that were possibl...

Chaika

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Chaika•5/19/24, 11:38 PM

you can be the domain administrator, the most permissions you can grant a user on a specific domain, still not enough though. Need Account-wide permissions

pazerval

Ppazerval I need to be superadmin on the account to access that?

Chaika

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Chaika•5/19/24, 11:38 PM

probably administrator would be fine

pazerval

Ppazerval email routing should apply to a specific domain right?

Chaika

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Chaika•5/19/24, 11:38 PM

no, a ton of its dependent settings are account-wide

Chaika

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Chaika•5/19/24, 11:39 PM

Email Workers, Verified Address/Destinations, are account-wide lists/objects

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pazervalOP•5/19/24, 11:42 PM

ah ok, thanks

Chaika

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Chaika•5/19/24, 11:44 PM

yea CF's RBAC is sadly super limited. I just double checked and even Zone Domain Admins can't even see the tab, and looks like no account-scoped role except Admins/Super Admins can modify addresses/get past Get Started as they don't have permissions for the account-wide addresses endpoint

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Veloxity•5/21/24, 8:54 PM

Hi, i 'm trying to use email routing with an emoji domain, I keep getting my emails rejected from gmail, is there a way to fix this?

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cliffkujala•5/23/24, 10:28 AM

I am using Odoo ERP/CRM. They provide a python script which can be ran on a POSTFIX or EXIM mail server to push received emails into Odoo. Could this type of script be ran as a worker with email routing on Cloudflare, and avoid the need for a seperate POSTFIX email server all together? I don't need the POSTFIX server for sending emails as we use Mailgun/Sendgrid for outbound, I only need to catch emails and push them into Odoo.

https://github.com/odoo/odoo/blob/4b67a7bec2007d89dfa8d9ecc7a73d4fe86547a3/addons/mail/static/scripts/odoo-mailgate.py

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odoo/addons/mail/static/scripts/odoo-mailgate.py at 4b67a7bec2007d8...

Odoo. Open Source Apps To Grow Your Business. Contribute to odoo/odoo development by creating an account on GitHub.

odoo/addons/mail/static/scripts/odoo-mailgate.py at 4b67a7bec2007d8...

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改善 EE•5/26/24, 2:45 AM

What does it mean if the emails are forwarding but I cannot see anything, after testing it?

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改善 EE•5/26/24, 2:49 AM

86 that it appears to be going to my Junk... anyone know how to prevent that?

改善 EE

改改善 EE 86 that it appears to be going to my Junk... anyone know how to prevent that?

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Isaac McFadyen•5/26/24, 4:05 AM

Double check your SPF records per the troubleshooting docs here: https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-routing/troubleshooting/email-routing-spf-records/

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改善 EE•5/26/24, 4:05 AM

Thank you so much!

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Ben Seitz•5/26/24, 3:25 PM

A basic question I couldn't find an answer to:
If I use cloudflare email routing with the domain mydomain.commydomain.com I can't have another MX record. So I route a mail from mail@mydomain.commail@mydomain.com to mail@secretdomain.commail@secretdomain.com. Now if I want to answer that mail, is it possible to use mail@mydomain.commail@mydomain.com as the sending address, so no one sees the secretdomain.comsecretdomain.com address?

Ben Seitz

BBen Seitz A basic question I couldn't find an answer to: If I use cloudflare email routing...

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rdm•5/26/24, 3:28 PM

If you have an outbound provider that gives you like SMTP where mydomain.commydomain.com is setup properly, sure.

rdm

Rrdm If you have an outbound provider that gives you like SMTP where `mydomain.com` i...

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Ben Seitz•5/26/24, 3:46 PM

But how can I set it up, if no other MX records are allowed?

Ben Seitz

BBen Seitz But how can I set it up, if no other MX records are allowed?

Hello, I’m Allie!

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Hello, I’m Allie!•5/26/24, 3:48 PM

MX Records aren't used to send email

Hello, I’m Allie!

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Hello, I’m Allie!•5/26/24, 3:48 PM

You don't need any records to send on behalf of a domain. You should add SPF, DKIM, DMARC records to ensure the emails arrive/aren't thrown into Spam though

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Ben Seitz•5/26/24, 3:51 PM

can you recommend a provider, that allows setting up outbound mail without setting up inbound mail and requiring an mx?

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rdm•5/26/24, 11:13 PM

Amazon SES, Mailgun are two

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noahluk•5/28/24, 4:28 AM

Hi, all, I am new to all these, I setup email routing, and I do receive testing email, but the timing is not consisitent, one I got it right the way, another testing takes a few minutes. and the one I am expecting now still have not show up after 10 mins? I am using gmail as destination email address.

Ben Seitz

BBen Seitz can you recommend a provider, that allows setting up outbound mail without setti...

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paulc•5/28/24, 3:22 PM

Cloudflare partners with MailChannels to provide email sending w/o having to manage MX nor set up SMTP account for sending. See https://blog.cloudflare.com/sending-email-from-workers-with-mailchannels . You can write a function that POSTs to MailChannels' API. Their API works great.

The Cloudflare Blog

Send email using Workers with MailChannels

MailChannels has created an email sending service specifically for Cloudflare Workers that removes all the friction associated with sending emails.

Send email using Workers with MailChannels

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Unsmart•5/28/24, 3:27 PM

Mailchannels is removing that integration and shouldn’t be used anymore

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Unsmart•5/28/24, 3:27 PM

https://support.mailchannels.com/hc/en-us/articles/26814255454093-End-of-Life-Notice-Cloudflare-Workers

Help Center

End of Life Notice - Cloudflare Workers

Since launching our free email sending API for Cloudflare Workers customers, we have been proud to provide a simple yet effective solution to deliver messages from Workers code with a minimum of se...

Unsmart

UUnsmart Mailchannels is removing that integration and shouldn’t be used anymore

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paulc•5/28/24, 3:33 PM

Oh - thanks for the heads up!!! Bummer they're removing the free version

. Looks like anyone can still use it if they're on a paid plan with MailChannels.

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Isaac McFadyen•5/28/24, 4:15 PM

If you're looking for a paid email service provider, I'd highly recommend avoiding MailChannels based on how they addressed (or rather, didn't address) the security issues in the past.

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Isaac McFadyen•5/28/24, 4:16 PM

See https://canary.discord.com/channels/595317990191398933/779390076219686943/1226529017763463219 for more info.

Ben Seitz

BBen Seitz A basic question I couldn't find an answer to: If I use cloudflare email routing...

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nonenal•6/4/24, 10:24 AM

if you reply to an email that got forwarded to your secretdomain.com it might still show up in the headers somewhere

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richburdon•6/4/24, 4:44 PM

can anyone recommend another email service?

Unsmart

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Unsmart•6/4/24, 4:47 PM

email service for what? Sending? AWS SES

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richburdon•6/4/24, 5:14 PM

thanks @Unsmart -- yes for sending email -- we're currently using MailChannels, but really wanting to avoid AWS (that's why I'm here :). Looking at Mailgun.

micha

Mmicha @Chaika Any idea if I would need to worry about the 10ms CPU time limit with tha...

Chaika

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Chaika•6/5/24, 3:12 PM

CPU Time is just the time the cpu is active, it doesn't include network time. You could do a fetch() which takes 10 seconds and only consume microseconds of cpu time

Chaika

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Chaika•6/5/24, 3:13 PM

Right, that's just handing it off to CF's smtp servers stuff to handle forwarding, that worker isn't doing anything, shouldn't be more then an ms or two of cpu time

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Chaika•6/5/24, 3:20 PM

sure, yea you can do a ton of stuff within 10ms of cpu time, most ideas you can think of (rewriting websites with htmlrewriter, proxying requests, having a block list for emails, etc). It's not hard capped either/you have a bit of a starting pool to make up for the first few executions being slower.

micha

Mmicha Seems to have worked, but why did the worker just get pinged 4 times within a co...

Chaika

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Chaika•6/5/24, 3:58 PM

because every new worker gets an ssl cert, and bots monitor ct logs/cert issuance

micha

Mmicha It errored because it doesn't have a handler, and now I disabled the route, but ...

Chaika

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Chaika•6/5/24, 3:58 PM

that's a good idea if it's purely an email worker

mydomain.com

mydomain.com

mydomain.com

mydomain.com

mail@mydomain.com

mail@mydomain.com

mail@mydomain.com

mail@mydomain.com

mail@secretdomain.com

mail@secretdomain.com

secretdomain.com

secretdomain.com

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