ostree is the project rpm-ostree is based on, they call it "the git for operating systems"
ostree is the project rpm-ostree is based on, they call it "the git for operating systems"
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Poh ok, i didnt understand the thing above that
Dyea its complicated lol some of my earlier messages got lost in the soup that is discord, i was probably typing out of context, though it helps me to put it in writing sometimes to make sure im understanding what im reading. Ya'll are my rubber ducks 
Akuak
OJust about went mad trying to shrink my Windows partition the "proper" way with disk management and everything, following guides online for what to disable beforehand and stuff. Every time, it would hit an "unmovable file" and not let me shrink more than ~900gb (had like 1.6tb of free space). I'd look in the event manager as directed and it would be some linux-formatted file name that wouldn't be visible from Windows or Bazzite no matter what tool I used to look for it. In the course of looking for it and deleting a couple of folder structures in hopes of getting rid of the unmovable file, the shrinkable space inexplicably shrank to ~700gb
OI finally caved and shrank it with KDE partition manager from Bazzite
Oif it broke Windows I'll reinstall it, I'm just done putting up with it if I don't have to lol
Obeware of reinstalling windows it likes eating efi partitions
Ayou cant bundle the kernel command line in UKI for bazzite's needs
Oit will see your grub and go yum yum
Aor any distro that hopes to have good hardware support
Athere are 3 files that are needed to boot, kernel command line, initramfs and kernel
Dits currently not support in upstream
Ooh I know, that's why I put Bazzite on a different physical drive so I can just remove it while installing Windows if I need to
Osame difference
Owindows doesnt care
Aeven if it was you cant the people that make these choices dont actually run distros
Dits no where close actually, all i can find is some redhat employee running an investigation on fedora coreos
Dwill be a long while i take it before it goes beyond that
Aif we didnt push them they wouldnt have implemented a loading bar still
OThe moment VR starts to actually work I can delete Windows entirely. Something to look forward to.
Din general though, a uki bundles in the cmdline, it would require a fundamental change to how things currently work in bazzite, we wouldn't need grub anymore since efibootmgr would be in charge of registering ukis with efi boot entries
Dso on update, when everything is generated, the uki blob gets created, and then registered with efi, but again, would require a substantial and fundamental change, nothing at all with how bazzite updates work atm
Aim pretty sure the proposal uses systemd boot
Awhich is a UKI manager
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Ausers cant be expected to manage their UEFI settings that ship has sailed
RWhat does this guy mean?
RBazzite doesn't have beta stuff
WI think I used this one last time Windows had files it couldn't move when I needed to shrink the partition https://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/epm-free.html
Aand I use UKI btw
Dperhaps, though is systemd-boot really that bad? i find it rocksolid compared to grub
Dyou're not on bazzite?
Amost of my users are on bazzite, I dont daily it yet
Wprobably talking about the bazzite testing branch?
Ai didnt say systemd boot is bad, my focus was more on using the BIOS
Doh i see, what do you use? arch?
Ayeah
Di see
AUKIs work fine and boot faster, but bios updates can wipe their entries
Aand users cant conceptualize it, and there can be bugs
Aso targetting a bootloader is better for now
Aas for systemd boot and grub, they're equally meh imo
RAccording to Kyle, those are still stable packages
Dmakes sense, the link i shared earlier did make mention what they're doing is just a proposal at this stage
RSo I guess the guy in the comment must have confused things
Dits unclear if they're even working on it
Athe problem imo is that systemd boot and grub are not accessibility friendly
Drpm-ostree github page is talking about how all dev work is on bootc/dnf, they're only fixing bugs for rpm-ostree
Athey dont support touchscreens, controllers, volume buttons etc. Some of the limitation is due to their implementation