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the way steam downloads it will bring the entire drive to contention without a write cache of some s
the way steam downloads it will bring the entire drive to contention without a write cache of some sort
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R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:18 AM
What did you mean then
?
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:18 AM
if the drive is cacheless this means your downloads slow to a crawl
P
Pez
the way steam downloads it will bring the entire drive to contention without a w...
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:18 AM
Oooh
, yeah
, I agree
.
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:18 AM
I can reproduce that then
.
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:18 AM
it
's still a CoW filesystem at the end of the day
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:18 AM
Never bothered me too much tho
.
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:19 AM
the solution is to simply use ext4 for your games storage if you don
't want your installs to take twice as long
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:19 AM
SDCards are still slow as crap XD
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:19 AM
i had two people try it
, one had their problem solved completely just with metadata journaling
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:19 AM
another guy didn
't
, i suspect it might need full journaling on his drive
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:19 AM
it was really bad
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:20 AM
don
't see what this has to do with libvirt lmfao
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:20 AM
you would use writeback and raw format on a VM
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:20 AM
:v
R
RodoMa92
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6/1/24, 8:21 AM
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R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:21 AM
Yep
, it
's off
.
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:23 AM
it doesn
't literally stop the filesystem from being copy
-on
-write anyway
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:23 AM
it just prevents deduplication using those factors
P
Pez
it doesn't literally stop the filesystem from being copy-on-write anyway
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:23 AM
It reduces the impact at least
.
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:23 AM
I never been a fan of btrfs TBC
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:24 AM
Lost data twice on it XD
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:24 AM
yeah it is still fundamentally an issue with the FS and certain forms of storage
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:24 AM
depending on how shit your drive is you are making a big tradeoff by not using a journaled fs
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:24 AM
But it
's the best CoW FS we have that works decently
.
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:25 AM
yeah unless you completely defer cow to the hv and use basically raw block storage in a VM it
's kinda shit
K
Kid
•
6/1/24, 8:25 AM
(open
)ZFS
, APFS
, BtrFS
K
Kid
(open)ZFS, APFS, BtrFS 🗿
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:25 AM
APFS
? XD
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:25 AM
lmfao
K
Kid
•
6/1/24, 8:25 AM
bache
.
.
.
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:25 AM
I love ZFS
, but too much issues being OOT
.
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:25 AM
If you have a recent kernel
.
K
Kid
bache...
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:26 AM
Bcache I
'm testing it now on my desktop BTW XD
R
RodoMa92
APFS? XD
K
Kid
•
6/1/24, 8:26 AM
Apple File System
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:26 AM
anyway if you notice steam DoSing your SSD while downloading larger games and it annoys you
, it
's BTRFS problem
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:26 AM
thanks for coming to my TED talk
K
Kid
Apple File System
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:26 AM
I know what it is
, but WHY would you touch Apple stuff
?
/s
P
Pez
anyway if you notice steam DoSing your SSD while downloading larger games and it...
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:26 AM
I know
D
DocMAX
•
6/1/24, 8:26 AM
all my handhelds go standby when i press power button
, only gpdwin3 is shutting down
, how can i change that
?
R
RodoMa92
I know what it is, but WHY would you touch Apple stuff? /s
K
Kid
•
6/1/24, 8:27 AM
I thought it
's also copy on write
R
RodoMa92
Bcache I'm testing it now on my desktop BTW XD
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:27 AM
(After being burned with memory issues on ZFS with VMs
)
K
Kid
I thought it's also copy on write
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:27 AM
apple probably uses both COW and journaling depending on the disk type etc
.
K
Kid
I thought it's also copy on write
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:28 AM
Yeah
, it is
, but why would you risk data on a FS which is not meant for anything other than Apple stuff
?
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:28 AM
yeah i wouldn
't do that for the same reason i wouldn
't use NTFS
K
Kid
•
6/1/24, 8:28 AM
Just wanted to mention it
, I
'd also not use ZFS on loonix
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:28 AM
ZFS is uhhh
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:28 AM
out of my paygrade
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:28 AM
:
)
P
Pez
yeah i wouldn't do that for the same reason i wouldn't use NTFS
R
RodoMa92
•
6/1/24, 8:28 AM
Well
, NTFS has far more issues than a UNIX FS XD
P
Pez
OP
•
6/1/24, 8:29 AM
hmmmm
K
Kid
•
6/1/24, 8:29 AM
Just use btrfs on Windows
:P
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