the way steam downloads it will bring the entire drive to contention without a write cache of some s
the way steam downloads it will bring the entire drive to contention without a write cache of some sort
RWhat did you mean then?
Pif the drive is cacheless this means your downloads slow to a crawl
ROooh, yeah, I agree.
RI can reproduce that then.
Pit's still a CoW filesystem at the end of the day
RNever bothered me too much tho.
Pthe solution is to simply use ext4 for your games storage if you don't want your installs to take twice as long
RSDCards are still slow as crap XD
Pi had two people try it, one had their problem solved completely just with metadata journaling
Panother guy didn't, i suspect it might need full journaling on his drive
Pit was really bad
Pdon't see what this has to do with libvirt lmfao
Pyou would use writeback and raw format on a VM
P:v
R---------------C------ /run/media/marco/SamSD512/steamapps/downloading
---------------C------ /run/media/marco/SamSD512/steamapps/temp
---------------C------ /run/media/marco/SamSD512/steamapps/temp
RYep, it's off.
Pit doesn't literally stop the filesystem from being copy-on-write anyway
Pit just prevents deduplication using those factors
RIt reduces the impact at least.
RI never been a fan of btrfs TBC
RLost data twice on it XD
Pyeah it is still fundamentally an issue with the FS and certain forms of storage
Pdepending on how shit your drive is you are making a big tradeoff by not using a journaled fs
RBut it's the best CoW FS we have that works decently.
Pyeah unless you completely defer cow to the hv and use basically raw block storage in a VM it's kinda shit
K(open)ZFS, APFS, BtrFS 
RAPFS? XD
Plmfao
Kbache...
RI love ZFS, but too much issues being OOT.
RIf you have a recent kernel.
Panyway if you notice steam DoSing your SSD while downloading larger games and it annoys you, it's BTRFS problem
Pthanks for coming to my TED talk
RI know what it is, but WHY would you touch Apple stuff? /s
RI know 
Dall my handhelds go standby when i press power button, only gpdwin3 is shutting down, how can i change that?
KI thought it's also copy on write
R(After being burned with memory issues on ZFS with VMs)
Papple probably uses both COW and journaling depending on the disk type etc.
RYeah, it is, but why would you risk data on a FS which is not meant for anything other than Apple stuff?
Pyeah i wouldn't do that for the same reason i wouldn't use NTFS
KJust wanted to mention it, I'd also not use ZFS on loonix
PZFS is uhhh
Pout of my paygrade
P:)
RWell, NTFS has far more issues than a UNIX FS XD
Phmmmm
KJust use btrfs on Windows :P
