The issue might be quite a bit bigger. Some programs (er ex. banking sites) have their local executa

The issue might be quite a bit bigger. Some programs (er ex. banking sites) have their local executables encrypted but Recall effectively circumvents it. Even more, it gives context to actions, and even access to otherwise encrypted files by effectively OCRing what's on screen. From the initial reports I don't have much confidence they'll do it right off the bat and we may see big consequences because of that

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:06 PM

Don't forget this will also have access to information that might otherwise not be saved locally, as an example private cloud documents, chats or even RDP/SSH sessions

Crono•6/1/24, 1:08 PM

From where I stand, it doesn't seem to provide an attack surface that's much bigger than something like ShadowPlay.

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:09 PM

We'll see how it plays out when it's out, for me it's a bit too big pill to swallow

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:15 PM

I really dont get how MS gets away with this stuff when companies can be so secretive. I work in pharma and we had to come up with a code system to refer to our clients cause some of them didnt like that we had their names on binders and a competitor might see that during an audit. But we'll keep using windows even if its phoning home information and might be recording your whole desktop somewhere

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:15 PM

Like imagine how much more damage that does if someone stole you laptop and had your log in. They wouldnt have to look for anything. They could just ask copilot

559smoke I really dont get how MS gets away with this stuff when companies can be so secr...

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:16 PM

So we're in the same sector /wave
Not only binders, but in communication (Teams names, emails) and everything.

Ppotemkinhr So we're in the same sector /wave Not only binders, but in communication (Teams ...

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:17 PM

Fuck teams

559smoke Fuck teams

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:18 PM

Also fuck MS for enforcing a default expiration policy of 3 months for meeting recordings so they can save pennies in onedrive storage costs

DocMAX•6/1/24, 1:18 PM

how do i uninstall emudeck completly?

Ppotemkinhr Also fuck MS for enforcing a default expiration policy of 3 months for meeting r...

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:19 PM

Teams breaks our documents and they were like "we dont intend to fix it". So I have to bitch at people for using it

DDocMAX how do i uninstall emudeck completly?

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:19 PM

You may not be able to

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:20 PM

I'm under the impression you cant just remove something that's layered in. If you do it takes more space

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:20 PM

But you should be able to uninstall it enough so its just the installer

Ppotemkinhr The issue might be quite a bit bigger. Some programs (er ex. banking sites) have...

antheas•6/1/24, 1:23 PM

Protected applications on Android can signal to the OS that screen recording should be disabled

antheas•6/1/24, 1:23 PM

Should be like that in windows but I'm not a windows user

559smoke Teams breaks our documents and they were like "we dont intend to fix it". So I h...

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:23 PM

I can confirm it's actually a thing, had to make an investigation for a ticket. Combed through EXIF for documents and web apps (including teams) strips some data out when saving documents which are normally present when editing them in the desktop versions of the apps (namely comments and such collaboration features). When externals edited documents in web apps (because the E1 license doesn't provide them with a desktop version of the app) and sent them beack there were differences in the document and truthfully there's nothing you can do apart fom agreeing on using one version and sticking to it if you want consistency

antheas•6/1/24, 1:24 PM

In general android has state of the art security

Aantheas In general android has state of the art security

Crono•6/1/24, 1:25 PM

Bluetooth

antheas•6/1/24, 1:25 PM

I think it's very likely recall won't blindly record the screen but work per windoe

Hunanbean•6/1/24, 1:25 PM

basically, it will be how it always is. Pro version users can use GPEDIT to control it. Home version users will not be able to disable it. remember, with windows, You/Your Information are the payment.

CCrono Bluetooth

Crono•6/1/24, 1:26 PM

Also remember reading something about its VPN implementation being very vulnerable sometime ago

CCrono Bluetooth

antheas•6/1/24, 1:26 PM

At least it's protected by selinux

Ppotemkinhr I can confirm it's actually a thing, had to make an investigation for a ticket. ...

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:26 PM

Which I have to tell people and they don't like it cause it makes them have to do more editing work

antheas•6/1/24, 1:26 PM

So even if it's compromised you don't takeover the device

antheas•6/1/24, 1:26 PM

VPN implementation had a couple issues with dns leakage but that's not that much of a biggie

antheas•6/1/24, 1:27 PM

VPNs are a pain

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:28 PM

Will see what we'll get at work for new machines but don't think it'll fly wery well with our new CIO

Aantheas I think it's very likely recall won't blindly record the screen but work per win...

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:28 PM

I used to work for astrazenica. Their computer systems ran like dogshit cause all of their severs were located at their head quarters in Liverpool. They didnt want it to run off the azur cloud or something which would have worked better for people in other countries cause then all their proprietary data would be on MS servers

Its the hypocrisy of it

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:29 PM

wasn't there a post about vpns kinda just not working in general if your system supports DHCP option 121 ubder some circumstances

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:29 PM

Which Android seems to ignore that option

559smoke I used to work for astrazenica. Their computer systems ran like dogshit cause al...

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:31 PM

Most of the health providers host in Azure or Oracle, some on AWS and it's always jank. This will raise some big flags for them as it's out of their control and some data will leak this way inevitably, it's the reason why they pushed for cloud workspace in the first place and this negates it completely.

Hunanbean•6/1/24, 1:32 PM

if i try to user nvidia-settings to render higher res, then output to 1080 viewport, is that the same as DSR?

559smoke I used to work for astrazenica. Their computer systems ran like dogshit cause al...

antheas•6/1/24, 1:32 PM

Where's the hypocrisy

antheas•6/1/24, 1:32 PM

Data governance is what it is

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:32 PM

We trust ms on the desktop but not the server

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

If you actually cared about your data you probably wouldn't be using windows

antheas•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

It has to do with where the servers are located

Aantheas Where's the hypocrisy

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

I guess your right that's its different. Its just seems weird to not use a more secure os at scale

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

not if you don't trust them for other things, at least

MMervius If you actually cared about your data you probably wouldn't be using windows

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

Aaaand that's why we are here in essence

antheas•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

Now cloud providers like azure are doing per country and dedicated deployments

antheas•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

GDPR is no joke as well

Hunanbean•6/1/24, 1:33 PM

MS uses Linux servers. that should say everything that needs to be said (This is from an old conversation and information, but i think still mostly valid)

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:34 PM

we also mostly use web apps anymore. We could stop using windows and still use office

Mervius•6/1/24, 1:34 PM

You can setup windows servers with azure afaik

559smoke we also mostly use web apps anymore. We could stop using windows and still use o...

potemkinhrOP•6/1/24, 1:34 PM

no you can't because broken formatting

antheas•6/1/24, 1:34 PM

Linux desktop implementations lack in security compared to win

antheas•6/1/24, 1:34 PM

You might not believe it

59smoke•6/1/24, 1:35 PM

I guess I have to

antheas•6/1/24, 1:35 PM

Linux can be more secure than win but rn is not

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