yea there is risk, not supposed to be too much force, but it's always a balance and becomes a ever-w

yea there is risk, not supposed to be too much force, but it's always a balance and becomes a ever-worsening vicious cycle once deeper gouges manifest

nubbinsOP•6/3/24, 3:10 PM

hopefully will be able to compare vpf adapter vs GF base rev.c later this week

Nnubbins yea there is risk, not supposed to be too much force, but it's always a balance ...

RimanDk•6/3/24, 3:11 PM

Yeah... gotcha.
I did what someone here proposed back when I got my unit, months ago, and applied some sodder to the contact patches (because it was driving me absolutely mad). It helped... then, it didn't... the screw kept getting loose under vibration. I finally invested in some loctite, which helped for a few weeks... now, it's back...

RRimanDk Yeah... gotcha. I did what someone here proposed back when I got my unit, months...

nubbinsOP•6/3/24, 3:12 PM

unfortunate to hear that

nubbinsOP•6/3/24, 3:13 PM

I never had to replace my rev.b pads but if they told me to add solder I think I wouldve just asked for a replacement instead, that doesn't look like a viable long term fix

nubbinsOP•6/3/24, 3:14 PM

I retrofitted my GF3 with rev.c, hate the extra 20mm extension but the connector difference is night and day

Nnubbins I never had to replace my rev.b pads but if they told me to add solder I think I...

RimanDk•6/3/24, 3:15 PM

Well, as I understood it, it was a matter of the pins not making good contact with the patch. Made sense that elevating the patch by means of making a few small "sodder hills" would eliminate distance as a possible culprit.
And, again, for a while it worked. It was solid in the beginning. For some reason, it became more and more unstable, though, and now it's disconnecting several times every flight and I need to twist the grip some to get the connection back.

Nnubbins I retrofitted my GF3 with rev.c, hate the extra 20mm extension but the connector...

RimanDk•6/3/24, 3:16 PM

That sounds great! I take it it's just stable connection now?

RRimanDk That sounds great! I take it it's just stable connection now?

nubbinsOP•6/3/24, 3:20 PM

affirmative, no problems with MCGU

nubbinsOP•6/3/24, 3:20 PM

on the other hand, I didn't really have issues either with MCGU on rev.b, only SCG

nubbinsOP•6/3/24, 3:21 PM

been using MCGU with a quick release clamp for grip fastener, hope to keep do the same on vpforce

Nnubbins been using MCGU with a quick release clamp for grip fastener, hope to keep do th...

RimanDk•6/3/24, 3:22 PM

Oh? What does that look like? Has it been good? I've only been using the default interface... with the aforementioned results :D

RimanDk•6/3/24, 3:22 PM

Had the same issues on the GF.. just less because no shaking...

RRimanDk Oh? What does that look like? Has it been good? I've only been using the default...

nubbinsOP•6/3/24, 3:25 PM

it's a perk of non twist MCG haha, only grip that can do it

nubbinsOP•6/3/24, 3:25 PM

just using a threaded lever clamp to replace the grip fastener's screw

nubbinsOP•6/3/24, 3:26 PM

RimanDk•6/3/24, 3:26 PM

Oh, right! I get it!

RimanDk•6/3/24, 3:26 PM

That's pretty cool =)

RimanDk•6/3/24, 3:26 PM

Cheers

Nnubbins just using a threaded lever clamp to replace the grip fastener's screw

Arno•6/3/24, 4:41 PM

I have a converted TM Warthog grip, I used a grub screw to be able to quickly release it from the VKB extension. Doesn't have twist either. However, I am contemplating modifying (3D printing) the twist base of my F14 grip to remove the twist and add a quick release.

NNumber481 Interestingly enough, its called Deceleration Force 😄 . Only activates while ...

Dentedend10•6/4/24, 2:20 AM

Thanks that was the one!

FFlynn (Phil)The Virpil Z-ext is great, and the Rhino gives you a ~10cm rise already, I found...

Stoned Kakapo•6/4/24, 3:41 AM

Do you find this extention to fell better than the standard goose neck? (Height aside).

HrEple•6/4/24, 9:28 AM

Also curious about the z-extension ve my 20 mm gooseneck.

Buckaroo•6/4/24, 9:51 AM

Folks,
I put my name on the ordering list for a base but I'm currently around 800s on the waiting list. So I'm considering the self build option.
I'd appreciate if someone could explain the process . I understand that the kit is supplied with motors and boards, but from where do I source the other parts or are there drawings/ files from which I can manufacture or buy them ? Is there options of materials, like metal or 3D printing and is the software readily available?
I appreciate that these will be obvious to some, but I've browsed the channel and still unsure . Thanks .

BBuckaroo Folks, I put my name on the ordering list for a base but I'm currently around 8...

Fierce_Fire•6/4/24, 9:53 AM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1146654912097292408

Fierce_Fire•6/4/24, 9:53 AM

there should be others

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•6/4/24, 9:58 AM

I was in the same boat as you are three weeks ago was considering doing my own 3d print diy as there are loads of help around but found @SR-FWinger[73]_David can supply a kit of printed parts and all the little screws needed he even assembles the gimbal for you. Now here I am three weeks later with a fully built diy rhino installed and working, if you can follow an ikea build instructions or LEGO it’s as simple as that, even the electronics are simply plugging to correct plug into the correct socket

VPforceBot•6/4/24, 10:16 AM

:package:

RHINO #0563 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•6/4/24, 10:16 AM

:package:

RHINO #0564 Has Shipped!

BBuckaroo Folks, I put my name on the ordering list for a base but I'm currently around 8...

Diverzant•6/4/24, 10:20 AM

At least you know which number you are, im still waiting for the results

Cowboy10uk•6/4/24, 10:25 AM

Well base arrived yesterday, ( after a 9 months wait, a lot quicker than expected ) plugged it in and had a play, and if I’m honest while I enjoyed having the FFB it didn’t exactly blow me away. However spent the morning today going through the settings said here by various members and actually reading the manual. ( that helps by the way ).

Dialed in the numbers and OMG, this thing is down right amazing. The difference between just plugging it in, and actually taking the time to dial the settings in is night and day.

Just the feeling of the Huey made me realise this was the right purchase, but once I got into fast jets and turned on the G effects etc,

. Mind blowing.

Tomorrow is setting up warbirds, I honestly had no idea how much I was missing without FFB.

Diverzant•6/4/24, 10:33 AM

I guess the FFB stick works wonders with the old gen airplanes without FBW

CCowboy10uk Well base arrived yesterday, ( after a 9 months wait, a lot quicker than expecte...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 10:47 AM

This ^ is the feeling put into words.

Great job and Happy flying!

DDiverzant I guess the FFB stick works wonders with the old gen airplanes without FBW

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 10:51 AM

Works great for all but it doesn’t have as many effects for modern airframes like FA18 or whatever with FBW.

A lot of what you feel is similar to haptic pads to you get roadway rumble and gunfire echo and all sorts of effects you can fine tune (or disable) as well as just tuning how the “stick” feels with the various springs/dampner/inertia/etc type stuff you set up (also per module if you want)

So for some airframes like the F4 you feel A LOT of input (maybe to much) while others you just feel less but you never feel “nothing”.

You also get simulated G’s and just to much to even list but the modern airframes are still awesome with FFB.. just Awesome so imho you can’t go wrong with the Rhino no matter what your daily driver is

TTouch_Of_Legend Works great for all but it doesn’t have as many effects for modern airframes lik...

Diverzant•6/4/24, 10:56 AM

In that case I am gonna enjoy the F4 even more one day. Im generally more of a fan of the older birds. F4,14, A6, A7 etc. just need to survive through the long wait list

Diverzant•6/4/24, 10:58 AM

I was sort of expecting something similar woth the stick im currently flying on (Simple Simpit) with that like „mechanical raw“ feel of the stick, but it just feels like a loose steering wheel on a bumpy road

DDiverzant In that case I am gonna enjoy the F4 even more one day. Im generally more of a f...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 11:24 AM

Yeah man as a former pilot it’s as close as I’ve ever felt to the “real thing”… Sure you lack so much of the body feel or that seat of your pants floating thing but as far as pressure and stick sensitivities and how it shudders and limps out at/near stall conditions… how it pulls forward with a heavy G dip… It’s really well done and they keep updating it.

I can honestky say the comment above your original comment puts the feeling into words in a way I’ve never been able to..

It’s THAT good so if you DIY or you wait. It’s worth the wait for sure

TTouch_Of_Legend Works great for all but it doesn’t have as many effects for modern airframes lik...

Cowboy10uk•6/4/24, 11:27 AM

The F18 effects though are great. It feels like it’s FBW, certainly not as mechanical as the F4 or 14, almost feels like it’s on rails just as it should.

What did stun me, is when I tried stalling it, I actually got the stall protection cut in, and force the stick forward to build up airspeed. That was a Wow moment. Never had that before with the F18.

The F4 and F14 is just Raw. The shaking, and weight coming onto the stick as you pull more Gs. You guys have absolutely nailed this.

Cowboy10uk•6/4/24, 11:28 AM

Am certainly intrigued on how it’s going to handle the F16 though mind you. I do have a force base, but I’m not totally in love with it. So I’m wondering if it’s worth swapping the stick over to this base, at least once I get a adaptor. ( forgot to order the winwing one doohhh )

TTouch_Of_Legend Yeah man as a former pilot it’s as close as I’ve ever felt to the “real thing”… ...

Diverzant•6/4/24, 11:34 AM

Thats really awesome to hear! Finally found what I was looking for in the simple simpit rig! I hope the wait wont be painfully long

CCowboy10uk The F18 effects though are great. It feels like it’s FBW, certainly not as mec...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 11:43 AM

Yep EXACTLY omg… It’s those eye opening Wooooooooooow moments where it’s blown my mind over, and over, and over again that’s made me realize the Rhino is the real deal.

Also it’s crazy knowing how good it is while also being fully aware that they aren’t finished yet…

More and more keeps being “developed” and then new ideas become full fledged feature sets.

I’m so fortunate to be here watching as they make the best even better every single day and I truly appreciate all the guys who’s builds and ideas and input contributed to this masssssssive scale of a project that allows little old me… to spread my broken wings and fly again.

DDiverzant Thats really awesome to hear! Finally found what I was looking for in the simple...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 11:53 AM

The waiting isn’t as long as it seems.

There’s a bot people ping and it’s usually around 200+/- days which is around 7months from preorder to build.

Most folks report receiving the units between 8-9 months and I assume that’s because of various different shippings and taxes/duties and blah blah whatever happens all over the globe.

For me personally I posted my review in the review section.

My DIY kit was 4 total days (including shipping) from pre order to delivery.

4 freaking days!!!

So for the DIY it’s super fast and for the wait list it’s still a lot shorter irl than advertised.

You can scroll around or read some reviews and see how long they waited and that’s basically the average.

No matter what you do.. You want the Rhino in your life.

After You get it… it quickly becomes the MVP of your kit.

Dudes flying the Hornet project or the Warthog 1:1 projects would be an UPGRADE with the Rhino.

It’s that seriously special for real it’s that special

Diverzant•6/4/24, 11:57 AM

200 or so days is about as half as I thought its gonna be so some good news it seems

getting the kit though diy in 4 days is really great! Would do it aswell but atm woth my car project the 200ish days seems like its quicker than me actually finding time to build the thing myself. Kinda regret I didnt preorder it when the F4 was announced back last year, would be more or less here now

The review of yours is what Im gonna do now since im bored to death at work

DDiverzant 200 or so days is about as half as I thought its gonna be so some good news it s...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 12:00 PM

Yeah man I posted my unit when I built it and I tried to post a lot of photos from different angles to help people who want to attempt to DIY.

It was a very straight forward build so if you find time to check out my build please do so

If anything it can give you a look inside the units so you’ll know more about the original Rhino

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 12:02 PM

Here’s a link

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1240771333894180875

TTouch_Of_Legend Here’s a link https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647...

Diverzant•6/4/24, 12:09 PM

That s actually helpful since I got lost searching for it lol. The unit looks really awesome! Too bad I dont have the 3D printer since I could use that for some other projects and not make everything out of metal. What do the green and blue rotaries do? Noticed something similar on the original from Rhino aswell. Do you adjust the strenght with it? Red one is I guess when the guests come to visit to the house and you turn the system off for safety?

btw love the plaque!

CCowboy10uk Well base arrived yesterday, ( after a 9 months wait, a lot quicker than expecte...

Fr4Ged•6/4/24, 12:17 PM

wait...that means you must have preordered in September as well? I received my Rhino is March after 6 months. weird.

DDiverzant That s actually helpful since I got lost searching for it lol. The unit looks re...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:13 PM

Yep thanks man! It was a fun build for sure

The knobs are potentiometers that you can use to fine tune effects or to lower the forces you feel.

The first pot is set to Spring Force (default) so if you turn it off the stick just falls to the side and stays there and as you turn it, if you turn it all the way it springs the stick back to center by gradually ramping up the “spring force” BUT

In the software you can use a drop down menu to set the pot to work ANY of the specific forces. So it’s great for fine tuning things and finding that perfect spring tension how you like (which is also somewhat based on the weight of the stick you use as heavier sticks require slightly stronger spring settings)

It’s honestly such an extensive set up that unlike the other bases where you change out the cams and springs.. for this you basically tune EVERY single force to make it feel…. However you want.

You like a big dead zone? Easy… you like it stupid stiff so it barely moves without resistance? Also easy..

Are you like me and just love to test and test and test.. Do that it’s great this thing is stupid fun.

You don’t like the 22 degrees? Change it to 17 or 11 is quite popular with some extension users.

The rhino is seriously that bitch.. She’s seriously everything the other bases can’t be..

In the software the 2nd pot is disabled by default but you can enable it anytime and then you can tune two different things

The fun thing you can do with them is set the pots as Axis!

(Yeah I always forget about that feature but yeah.. the Rhino is just to nice man.. she’s tooooo nice)

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:15 PM

I’ll say again that no matter what you own this is the new MVP in your kit.

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:16 PM

It’s so bad if the house is burning down.. and you can only take one thing.

You’ll be looking at the dog. And at the Rhino.. and back at the dog.. and back to the Rhino.

Man.. gonna miss that dog

Bob Bushman•6/4/24, 2:17 PM

I booted mine up and barely tested it, and first thought, dang I want another.

Then I experimented with trim settings and I thought I should have bought two seven years ago (small comfort that it didn't exist yet)

yea there is risk, not supposed to be too much force, but it's always a balance and becomes a ever-w

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