In that case I am gonna enjoy the F4 even more one day. Im generally more of a fan of the older bird

In that case I am gonna enjoy the F4 even more one day. Im generally more of a fan of the older birds. F4,14, A6, A7 etc. just need to survive through the long wait list

DiverzantOP•6/4/24, 10:58 AM

I was sort of expecting something similar woth the stick im currently flying on (Simple Simpit) with that like „mechanical raw“ feel of the stick, but it just feels like a loose steering wheel on a bumpy road

DDiverzant In that case I am gonna enjoy the F4 even more one day. Im generally more of a f...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 11:24 AM

Yeah man as a former pilot it’s as close as I’ve ever felt to the “real thing”… Sure you lack so much of the body feel or that seat of your pants floating thing but as far as pressure and stick sensitivities and how it shudders and limps out at/near stall conditions… how it pulls forward with a heavy G dip… It’s really well done and they keep updating it.

I can honestky say the comment above your original comment puts the feeling into words in a way I’ve never been able to..

It’s THAT good so if you DIY or you wait. It’s worth the wait for sure

TTouch_Of_Legend Works great for all but it doesn’t have as many effects for modern airframes lik...

Cowboy10uk•6/4/24, 11:27 AM

The F18 effects though are great. It feels like it’s FBW, certainly not as mechanical as the F4 or 14, almost feels like it’s on rails just as it should.

What did stun me, is when I tried stalling it, I actually got the stall protection cut in, and force the stick forward to build up airspeed. That was a Wow moment. Never had that before with the F18.

The F4 and F14 is just Raw. The shaking, and weight coming onto the stick as you pull more Gs. You guys have absolutely nailed this.

Cowboy10uk•6/4/24, 11:28 AM

Am certainly intrigued on how it’s going to handle the F16 though mind you. I do have a force base, but I’m not totally in love with it. So I’m wondering if it’s worth swapping the stick over to this base, at least once I get a adaptor. ( forgot to order the winwing one doohhh )

TTouch_Of_Legend Yeah man as a former pilot it’s as close as I’ve ever felt to the “real thing”… ...

DiverzantOP•6/4/24, 11:34 AM

Thats really awesome to hear! Finally found what I was looking for in the simple simpit rig! I hope the wait wont be painfully long

CCowboy10uk The F18 effects though are great. It feels like it’s FBW, certainly not as mec...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 11:43 AM

Yep EXACTLY omg… It’s those eye opening Wooooooooooow moments where it’s blown my mind over, and over, and over again that’s made me realize the Rhino is the real deal.

Also it’s crazy knowing how good it is while also being fully aware that they aren’t finished yet…

More and more keeps being “developed” and then new ideas become full fledged feature sets.

I’m so fortunate to be here watching as they make the best even better every single day and I truly appreciate all the guys who’s builds and ideas and input contributed to this masssssssive scale of a project that allows little old me… to spread my broken wings and fly again.

DDiverzant Thats really awesome to hear! Finally found what I was looking for in the simple...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 11:53 AM

The waiting isn’t as long as it seems.

There’s a bot people ping and it’s usually around 200+/- days which is around 7months from preorder to build.

Most folks report receiving the units between 8-9 months and I assume that’s because of various different shippings and taxes/duties and blah blah whatever happens all over the globe.

For me personally I posted my review in the review section.

My DIY kit was 4 total days (including shipping) from pre order to delivery.

4 freaking days!!!

So for the DIY it’s super fast and for the wait list it’s still a lot shorter irl than advertised.

You can scroll around or read some reviews and see how long they waited and that’s basically the average.

No matter what you do.. You want the Rhino in your life.

After You get it… it quickly becomes the MVP of your kit.

Dudes flying the Hornet project or the Warthog 1:1 projects would be an UPGRADE with the Rhino.

It’s that seriously special for real it’s that special

DiverzantOP•6/4/24, 11:57 AM

200 or so days is about as half as I thought its gonna be so some good news it seems

getting the kit though diy in 4 days is really great! Would do it aswell but atm woth my car project the 200ish days seems like its quicker than me actually finding time to build the thing myself. Kinda regret I didnt preorder it when the F4 was announced back last year, would be more or less here now

The review of yours is what Im gonna do now since im bored to death at work

DDiverzant 200 or so days is about as half as I thought its gonna be so some good news it s...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 12:00 PM

Yeah man I posted my unit when I built it and I tried to post a lot of photos from different angles to help people who want to attempt to DIY.

It was a very straight forward build so if you find time to check out my build please do so

If anything it can give you a look inside the units so you’ll know more about the original Rhino

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 12:02 PM

Here’s a link

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1240771333894180875

TTouch_Of_Legend Here’s a link https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647...

DiverzantOP•6/4/24, 12:09 PM

That s actually helpful since I got lost searching for it lol. The unit looks really awesome! Too bad I dont have the 3D printer since I could use that for some other projects and not make everything out of metal. What do the green and blue rotaries do? Noticed something similar on the original from Rhino aswell. Do you adjust the strenght with it? Red one is I guess when the guests come to visit to the house and you turn the system off for safety?

btw love the plaque!

CCowboy10uk Well base arrived yesterday, ( after a 9 months wait, a lot quicker than expecte...

Fr4Ged•6/4/24, 12:17 PM

wait...that means you must have preordered in September as well? I received my Rhino is March after 6 months. weird.

DDiverzant That s actually helpful since I got lost searching for it lol. The unit looks re...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:13 PM

Yep thanks man! It was a fun build for sure

The knobs are potentiometers that you can use to fine tune effects or to lower the forces you feel.

The first pot is set to Spring Force (default) so if you turn it off the stick just falls to the side and stays there and as you turn it, if you turn it all the way it springs the stick back to center by gradually ramping up the “spring force” BUT

In the software you can use a drop down menu to set the pot to work ANY of the specific forces. So it’s great for fine tuning things and finding that perfect spring tension how you like (which is also somewhat based on the weight of the stick you use as heavier sticks require slightly stronger spring settings)

It’s honestly such an extensive set up that unlike the other bases where you change out the cams and springs.. for this you basically tune EVERY single force to make it feel…. However you want.

You like a big dead zone? Easy… you like it stupid stiff so it barely moves without resistance? Also easy..

Are you like me and just love to test and test and test.. Do that it’s great this thing is stupid fun.

You don’t like the 22 degrees? Change it to 17 or 11 is quite popular with some extension users.

The rhino is seriously that bitch.. She’s seriously everything the other bases can’t be..

In the software the 2nd pot is disabled by default but you can enable it anytime and then you can tune two different things

The fun thing you can do with them is set the pots as Axis!

(Yeah I always forget about that feature but yeah.. the Rhino is just to nice man.. she’s tooooo nice)

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:15 PM

I’ll say again that no matter what you own this is the new MVP in your kit.

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:16 PM

It’s so bad if the house is burning down.. and you can only take one thing.

You’ll be looking at the dog. And at the Rhino.. and back at the dog.. and back to the Rhino.

Man.. gonna miss that dog

Bob Bushman•6/4/24, 2:17 PM

I booted mine up and barely tested it, and first thought, dang I want another.

Then I experimented with trim settings and I thought I should have bought two seven years ago (small comfort that it didn't exist yet)

BBob Bushman I booted mine up and barely tested it, and first thought, dang I want another. ...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:20 PM

Exactly… feeling the stick relax as you trim in like it does irl…

Yeah it’s just something I can’t even fully put into words.

Bob Bushman•6/4/24, 2:21 PM

It's quite literally as big of a shift as vr.

Bob Bushman•6/4/24, 2:21 PM

And now almost only want to fly helicopters..

DiverzantOP•6/4/24, 2:23 PM

I already can see that the waiting period is gonna be full of suffering and comforting myself with Rhino videos on youtube

SStoned Kakapo Do you find this extention to fell better than the standard goose neck? (Height ...

Flynn (Phil)•6/4/24, 2:32 PM

I don't know, I've not used short goosenecks before. I was just trying to find the right combination of height, stick position fore and aft, and throw. The Rhino gives you an effective extension from the off, so you don't need much extra, in my opinion (the z-ext is maybe 11cm?). I wanted to bring the stick back towards me - the massive box stops me bringing the whole thing back towards me, so the z-ext is great for that - plus it fits just over the seat base when pulled max back. Also you can choose your angle for the stick front to back . One thing that I don't hear talked about much is throw - if you put a long extension on, you end up with a huge throw, which is good if your base is on the ground, but not otherwise. I've got hardware restrictions in for (I think) +- 11 degrees left and right, and 8 forward, 14 back, and the stick feels exactly right for me. Obviously there's some sw setting up to be done, which can take a while...

DiverzantOP•6/4/24, 2:38 PM

973 Rhinos to go

DDiverzant 973 Rhinos to go 😭

SamNFTY•6/4/24, 2:39 PM

One day you'll be where I am. It just takes patience. I think I was in 4 digits when I signed up.

SSamNFTY One day you'll be where I am. It just takes patience. I think I was in 4 digits ...

DiverzantOP•6/4/24, 2:40 PM

How long did you have to wait for it?

DDiverzant How long did you have to wait for it?

SamNFTY•6/4/24, 2:41 PM

Signed up back in November

FFlynn (Phil)I don't know, I've not used short goosenecks before. I was just trying to find t...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:41 PM

Yeah that’s what I love bout the Rhino… soooooooo many set ups.

I’m mounting it to a pedestal and using the full 22degrees because she’s basically in the tunnel between my legs just like the natural position

SSamNFTY Signed up back in November

DiverzantOP•6/4/24, 2:42 PM

You got yours in 6 nonths? I need your luck in my life

Red Magic•6/4/24, 2:42 PM

I still have to figure out a setup to
1) hold the rhino
2) adapt to a swivel gaming chair
3) be easy to destruct and pack up in a pinch

DDiverzant You got yours in 6 nonths? I need your luck in my life 😅

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:43 PM

A lot of folks back out or fall off the list for one reason or another and that moves people up, up, up.

TTouch_Of_Legend Yeah that’s what I love bout the Rhino… soooooooo many set ups. I’m mounting it...

Bob Bushman•6/4/24, 2:43 PM

Not to mention you can custom tune your settings for each module, and telemffb apply it when loaded.

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:44 PM

It’s a WIP but here’s the set up….

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:45 PM

Perfect fulcrum on the thigh at full deflection in every direction.

She’s dead perfect

TTouch_Of_Legend A lot of folks back out or fall off the list for one reason or another and that ...

DiverzantOP•6/4/24, 2:45 PM

Yeah, thought so. Whiever is 1538, bad luck mate I aint giving up

RRed Magic I still have to figure out a setup to 1) hold the rhino 2) adapt to a swivel gam...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/4/24, 2:46 PM

You can see what I’m doing (above)

FFr4Ged wait...that means you must have preordered in September as well? I received my R...

Cowboy10uk•6/4/24, 2:47 PM

Yep. Guess it’s just luck of the drawer.

. Think I was 859 in the orders initially but recieved 539 so I’m guessing quite a few dropped out before me.

TTouch_Of_Legend It’s a WIP but here’s the set up….

nubbins•6/4/24, 2:48 PM

straight grip, no rotation?

SamNFTY•6/4/24, 2:49 PM

You mistake timing for luck.

RRed Magic I still have to figure out a setup to 1) hold the rhino 2) adapt to a swivel gam...

nubbins•6/4/24, 2:49 PM

there are a few places these days selling a gas tube with a rotation lock

nubbins•6/4/24, 2:50 PM

I saw one somewhere but didn't pull the trigger, and predator mounts is also working on one, or the one from monstertech

RRed Magic I still have to figure out a setup to 1) hold the rhino 2) adapt to a swivel gam...

Cowboy10uk•6/4/24, 2:55 PM

I’m looking at this solution at the mo. Does everything you’re asking, just monstertech prices sadly. Their stuff is certainly worth it though.

https://www.monster.tech/en/product/center-joystick-chair-mount/

MTSIM – MONSTERTECH

Center Joystick Chair Mount – MTSIM – MONSTERTECH

Center joystick mount for attachment to various office chairs. Quick and easy to remove. Can be adjusted for different joystick configurations.

CCowboy10uk I’m looking at this solution at the mo. Does everything you’re asking, just m...

SamNFTY•6/4/24, 2:56 PM

I have that chair. I thoroughly enjoy it

CCowboy10uk I’m looking at this solution at the mo. Does everything you’re asking, just m...

Red Magic•6/4/24, 2:56 PM

Considering the weight and torque I'm hesitant to get something that's directly and only mounted to the chair, for the rhino

SamNFTY•6/4/24, 2:56 PM

Red Magic•6/4/24, 2:57 PM

Preferably I have the rhino stabilized on the floor in some way

SSamNFTY I have that chair. I thoroughly enjoy it

Cowboy10uk•6/4/24, 2:57 PM

Sweet, only looking at the Mount at the moment though. Wife would kill me if I get a new chair as well.

SSamNFTY Click to see attachment

Cowboy10uk•6/4/24, 2:58 PM

Ahhh someone else who uses the multipurpose UFC I see.

CCowboy10uk Sweet, only looking at the Mount at the moment though. Wife would kill me if I g...

DiverzantOP•6/4/24, 2:58 PM

Yeah but if you dont get the chair your back may start hurting so you cant do the vacuuming anymore

CCowboy10uk Sweet, only looking at the Mount at the moment though. Wife would kill me if I g...

SamNFTY•6/4/24, 2:58 PM

The chair is really solid. When I had my mounts on another chair, the chair was the weakest link by far

CCowboy10uk Ahhh someone else who uses the multipurpose UFC I see.

SamNFTY•6/4/24, 2:58 PM

Absolutely love it

Cowboy10uk•6/4/24, 2:58 PM

Just had to remove mine from the cockpit, as the throw from the rhino kept hitting it.

Hence looking for different mounting so,unions at the mo

In that case I am gonna enjoy the F4 even more one day. Im generally more of a fan of the older bird

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