When I have my Rhino plugged into the same USB hub as my X56 throttle, I get phantom button presses

When I have my Rhino plugged into the same USB hub as my X56 throttle, I get phantom button presses on the lower 3 momentary switches on the throttle. I resolved this by plugging the Rhino directly into the computer instead of the hub, but I thought I'd put it out there for anyone else possibly experiencing something similar.

IceOP•6/7/24, 10:11 PM

I was flying along and my gear would just randomly start coming out and sometimes the drag parachute in the phantom would deploy since those are all bound to those 3 switches

IIce When I have my Rhino plugged into the same USB hub as my X56 throttle, I get pha...

Fr4Ged•6/7/24, 10:38 PM

is that a powered hub or an unpowered one?

FFr4Ged is that a powered hub or an unpowered one?

IceOP•6/7/24, 11:04 PM

It's either. When I'm playing DCS, it's unpowered since I use that plug for the Rhino's PSU. Could be why.

Fr4Ged•6/7/24, 11:06 PM

I am pretty sure that the x56 is allergic to unpowered hubs. might be the case in general for controllers. don't know

IceOP•6/7/24, 11:06 PM

It seems to work totally fine when just my pedals/throttle are plugged in. The moment I add the Rhino is when things start to become weird.

IceOP•6/7/24, 11:06 PM

Maybe those 2 devices are the limit.

Oneill•6/8/24, 7:45 AM

Anyone in wales on here willing to sort out my sim.
I don’t know anything about setting up computers and I’ve had a fuck full of this already.
Please don’t go saying save zip files and save to whatever because I don’t know anything about them.
I just want a sim I can turn on and fly.
I’m willing to pay anyone who can set this up.

OOneill Anyone in wales on here willing to sort out my sim. I don’t know anything about ...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/8/24, 9:11 AM

Honestly….

Do you guys have a BestBuy Geeksquad or Computer home set up service place?

You need an ongoing service to deal with potential update/upgrade and maintenance issues so you just need a local service.

The guys there will be killer at not just setting up this rig but if you get some crazy 6DOF they can help with that as well.

IF you can’t do it.. Don’t screw it up messing with stuff.

Just call BestBuy or whatever is local and pay the right people.

Computer set up people will do this easy and fast.

AND if something breaks in an update or some windows 11 bulllllllllll S (don’t get me started)

They are on the hook and only a phone call away to fixing you right up.

That’s the way not just to get flying but to get someone on the hook for keeping you there.

Happy flying brother I can’t wait to see you up there

QR4rigs•6/8/24, 12:45 PM

Sorry for the noob question. I was altering the settings for the UH-1H (DCS) in TelemFFB and it just closed down. I tried launching it again.. and it closed down after a second on screen... I redownloaded the latest TelemFFB and extracted it and launched it and it closes down after 1 second. I have rebooted and get the same behaviour...

Any ideas? Is there a log file produced to trace these kind of 'behaviours'?

TIA

QR4rigs•6/8/24, 12:48 PM

Windows Event Viewer shows the following:
Faulting application name: VPforce-TelemFFB.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x6660903c
Faulting module name: Qt5Core.dll, version: 5.15.2.0, time stamp: 0x5fa4dd3b
Exception code: 0xc0000409
Fault offset: 0x00000000000204e8
Faulting process ID: 0x0xCD8
Faulting application start time: 0x0x1DAB9A14F7218D0
Faulting application path: D:\Drivers\VPforce\VPforce-TelemFFB-20240605\VPforce-TelemFFB.exe
Faulting module path: D:\Drivers\VPforce\VPforce-TelemFFB-20240605\assets\PyQt5\Qt5\bin\Qt5Core.dll
Report ID: 14f60150-9d88-42aa-91ab-739578144f0c

TTouch_Of_Legend Honestly…. Do you guys have a BestBuy Geeksquad or Computer home set up service...

Oneill•6/8/24, 5:18 PM

I’m struggling to find anyone near me, there are computer shops but nothing around to help with the simulator set up.
I’m in the uk.

Soy•6/9/24, 6:36 AM

im trying to print the files for the design by protomaker and the first few printed good but now for some reason my nozzle keeps running into the infill i tried recalibrating the printer and changing the offset but its still happening does anyone know a possible fix?

SSoy im trying to print the files for the design by protomaker and the first few prin...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/9/24, 9:59 AM

You can tag him @Subsonic and see if he has any suggestions as for your printer and/or print material (rolls).

Otherwise I’m sorry to hear that man hopefully they can sort it out and get you back on track

Soy•6/9/24, 2:32 PM

i figured out a solution using gyroid infill seems to fix the problem

.Eagle.•6/10/24, 4:34 AM

is that temp for the (y) axis normal ?

.Eagle.•6/10/24, 4:35 AM

it goes up to 63 C during combat

walmis•6/10/24, 5:06 AM

Yep, completely normal

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 6:46 AM

Would there be a reason why my x axis seems to be the most susceptible to instability? if it's ever an effect that causes a motor self protect it's always affecting the x axis. I can send pics of settings.

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 7:03 AM

ok I keep getting x axis shut down in the kiowa. it happening when using telemffb. I've gone through & set effects down fairly low I'm not sure why it's still occurring. Could my overall settings be affecting telemffb & stability? I have always had to have inertia & friction set rather low, like 10% in settings & 10% in effects tab in config app.

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 7:16 AM

ok ETL effect is the cause. I had it on 20% it is now on 5% I'll test again

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 7:17 AM

my constant & periodic effects are set at 50% in config app

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 7:19 AM

still happened at 5%

walmis•6/10/24, 7:52 AM

@PiNKMuD can you show your VP config settings?

Wwalmis @PiNKMuD can you show your VP config settings?

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 7:57 AM

I just turned Constant & Periodic Effects down to 40% from 50%. Need to test at that.

walmis•6/10/24, 8:12 AM

Try reducing periodic effect LPF, try in the range 10-20Hz
Also try without the inertia effect

walmis•6/10/24, 8:12 AM

also check if the X axis belt is tight

Wwalmis Try reducing periodic effect LPF, try in the range 10-20Hz Also try without the ...

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 8:13 AM

Cheers I'll test asap & get back to you. It might just be that the Kiowa will need a bit more tweaking in the config profile.

..Eagle.is that temp for the (y) axis normal ?

Touch_Of_Legend•6/10/24, 12:54 PM

Look who’s all Green now

.Eagle.•6/10/24, 12:54 PM

Hell yeah

.Eagle.•6/10/24, 12:55 PM

Finally

Wwalmis Try reducing periodic effect LPF, try in the range 10-20Hz Also try without the ...

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 4:41 PM

I've reduced the Periodic Effects LPF down to 10Hz & the Periodic & Constant Effects are set at 40% down from the default 50% & I am still getting x axis shut down with ETL effect. I had a similar situation with the Hornet module the other night when first swapping to the new version of TelemFFB from the older python style install version one of the effects (maybe G forces) was set too high & the x axis motor was the one to shut down. Would there be any reason software or hardware wise why it's always the x axis motor? Thanks for any help

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 4:46 PM

I've lowered ETL effect to 5% & the axis seems stable, though the effect is no longer very strong

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 4:56 PM

The axis is still cutting out with LPF @ 10% effects setting @ 40% & the telemffb effect for ETL is only 5%

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 5:00 PM

trying without inertia

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 5:11 PM

nope still getting axis shut down. Could this be a bad motor?

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 5:16 PM

Idk it's 3:15am for me I'm going to bed. The main cause seems to be ETL effect & any rapid or semi rapid left/right movement.

Number481•6/10/24, 5:22 PM

Walmis would know best how the combinations of higher gain settings work together... but unless you are turning it down with the override in TelemFFB, %40 damper is really high, especially with %10 on Inertia and Friction.

I have my profile set up at %40 damper in configurator, but the damper effect override in TelemFFB drops that down a lot further at %30 on the slider (so %30 of %40, or about %12 actual)

NNumber481 Walmis would know best how the combinations of higher gain settings work togethe...

PiNKSH!T•6/10/24, 5:23 PM

yeah I'll try lowering the damper tomorrow & report back. Cheers m8

PPiNKSH!T yeah I'll try lowering the damper tomorrow & report back. Cheers m8

LeLv30_Superbus•6/10/24, 6:55 PM

So... is Kiowa good? Or wait a year or two for sale?

Wwalmis Yep, completely normal

IceOP•6/11/24, 12:37 AM

What temperature does the Rhino begin to lower the force output?

joleobee•6/11/24, 4:01 AM

Hello, building my DIY Rhino, do I need to order a CUI MD-50PL100 5 pin connector if i'm using a VKB Gunfighter grip? I'm guessing no need for it

Jjoleobee Hello, building my DIY Rhino, do I need to order a CUI MD-50PL100 5 pin connecto...

Touch_Of_Legend•6/11/24, 9:27 AM

I would put it in and build the kit as documented.

Why? What if you decide to switch stick grip in the future?

The TM and Virpil want that 5pin connector.

I’m not sure the work around for a VKB stick grip but I’d want to be able to fit as many (potential) grips as possible.

You’ll have the Rhino for awhile… It’s probably the last base we all buy/build so it really needs to be “future proof” as far as compatibility

LLeLv30_Superbus So... is Kiowa good? Or wait a year or two for sale?

PiNKSH!T•6/11/24, 9:39 AM

Hey m8, I haven't got far into learning it yet, just the start up & beginning to look at nav. It's close to or is feature complete as far as I understand it. It's not like the Apache obviously so if you don't have the Apache or even the Black Shark 3 & want an attack heli get one of them. As far as a scout/light attack heli it's good & when/if they make the LINK system work between the Kiowa & Apache it'll be even better. Maybe not as much use for it on MP servers I'm not sure, but if you do SP or MP missions I think you could find some really cool things for it to do. As far as flight model etc. it feels great.

joleobee•6/11/24, 11:49 AM

That’s a good point about changing grips. I was just looking to save $11 lol.

PPiNKSH!T Hey m8, I haven't got far into learning it yet, just the start up & beginning to...

GarrafaBr•6/11/24, 9:32 PM

Hi, were you able to stop the X motor from shutting down? If not, have you tried disabling the axis scaling due to the unbalance between left X axis and right X axis, just for testing?

GGarrafaBr Hi, were you able to stop the X motor from shutting down? If not, have you tried...

PiNKSH!T•6/12/24, 2:19 AM

I use a physical limiter & those axis scaling settings keep everything calibrated/centered

GGarrafaBr Hi, were you able to stop the X motor from shutting down? If not, have you tried...

PiNKSH!T•6/12/24, 6:46 AM

So atm with these settings things are stable

PPiNKSH!T So atm with these settings things are stable 🤷‍♂️

GarrafaBr•6/12/24, 8:14 AM

I see, with Inertia and friction disabled, the shutdown is gone.

GGarrafaBr I see, with Inertia and friction disabled, the shutdown is gone.

PiNKSH!T•6/12/24, 8:18 AM

No, in fact I tested that last night & it persisted. It may have helped a small amount but I couldn't say so. I think the main thing was turning the LPF for damper down 1hz to 3.0hz & 7% seems to be stable for the ETL effect.

Boo Berry•6/12/24, 12:36 PM

@BAKE Hello, I'm trying to make my own extension cable from the rhino base to a winwing stick, did this pin out work for you?

When I have my Rhino plugged into the same USB hub as my X56 throttle, I get phantom button presses

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