Universal Blue•2y ago

I can't live without tray icons

VValerie I can't live without tray icons

Crono•6/10/24, 1:24 AM

Easier than you think

ValerieOP•6/10/24, 1:25 AM

Yeah but like, why should I lol

ValerieOP•6/10/24, 1:25 AM

They're just a convenience feature, saying "Well actually you don't need this" is a bit silly

Astral•6/10/24, 1:26 AM

I mean, considering I'm using GNOME primarily most apps aren't using tray icons

ValerieOP•6/10/24, 1:26 AM

I mean even if I used GNOME I'd want tray icons for the same apps

ValerieOP•6/10/24, 1:26 AM

I'm not dying over tray icon support for Kwrite

ValerieOP•6/10/24, 1:27 AM

It's stuff like discord or music

Crono•6/10/24, 1:27 AM

For music you can use the notification I suppose

Crono•6/10/24, 1:27 AM

And plop Discord in another workspace

halva•6/10/24, 1:28 AM

yeah MPRIS is entirely separate from that

ValerieOP•6/10/24, 1:28 AM

I love Kool Desktop Environment Plasma

halva•6/10/24, 1:28 AM

both idk about smaller DEs but both kde and gnome have no trouble with it

Astral•6/10/24, 1:29 AM

I mean the main issue is the standard for tray icons is hella old

Crono•6/10/24, 1:30 AM

There's a new standard being worked on

ValerieOP•6/10/24, 1:30 AM

who's doing it?

Crono•6/10/24, 1:31 AM

Not sure, I believe someone at GNOME

Crono•6/10/24, 1:31 AM

The background app thing was already a first step towards it

Astral•6/10/24, 1:31 AM

yeah it is being worked on because the old standard is in massive need of an overhaul

halva•6/10/24, 1:33 AM

ill take literally anything over what we have right now

Astral•6/10/24, 1:33 AM

the issue as well is a lot of these apps using tray icons are using a fucking kde thing instead of any form of freedesktop standard which is really part of the problem

halva•6/10/24, 1:34 AM

the biggest merit that the current protocol has is that it's oddly good for emulating those dumb windows trays that don't follow their conventions

Astral•6/10/24, 1:34 AM

yuuup

Astral•6/10/24, 1:35 AM

Primarily Steam

halva•6/10/24, 1:35 AM

a lot of game launchers do this in general

Crono•6/10/24, 1:35 AM

At the end of the day you can still use Steam without a tray icon

Crono•6/10/24, 1:36 AM

It'll just be something akin to EasyEffects or Software

halva•6/10/24, 1:36 AM

like the aforementioned battle net

halva•6/10/24, 1:36 AM

like instead of it just being a context menu, it draws a whole ass window

halva•6/10/24, 1:36 AM

and the funniest thing is that it's annoying as shit on windows too

halva•6/10/24, 1:37 AM

because those windows never behave like they should

CCrono At the end of the day you can still use Steam without a tray icon

Astral•6/10/24, 1:37 AM

because thankfully steam is smart enough to just... launch an already open instance if you close the window and then click the application button

Astral•6/10/24, 1:40 AM

but yeah the sooner we get a proper freedesktop standard for that stuff the better tbh

RealDishwash•6/10/24, 1:40 AM

i got a quick q, if i wanna add obs-gamecaptureobs-gamecapture to ow2 in lutris, do i add it in the env var section or the arguments section in lutris?

RealDishwash•6/10/24, 1:41 AM