JWe recorded a refueling operation trajectory in the air! Isn't it interesting?
#WINWING #CyberTaurus #JoystickBase
#WINWING #CyberTaurus #JoystickBase
6/22/24, 2:41 PM
Xthings getting crazier )
BHonestly thought winwing was a year out, 
Bwill be interesting what the impact will be once these release, I'm suspecting there might a big drop off on the queue for rhino's....
BAlthough does make sense to come out with this stuff right before the launch of msfs 2024.
VI wish there were more manufacturers working on yokes haha. So far I think it's just Brunner, simionic, and flitesim.com
RMy biggest curiosity is how all these different systems will work compared to the rhino. I’d be interested in a direct drive and all metal construction. I’ll never sell my rhino it’s a collector item, atleast to me. The software and work done by all in this discord is amazing. I feel like vpforce started the ball rolling and the next year will be the year of ffb. If I’m honest I’d love to see an all metal rhino with largest motors etc. special edition so to speak. It’s great to be a right simmer.
NI'd be first in line for a production SuperRhino
BSuppose you could just buy bigger motor kit, a psu and make a new box
Badjust the belts etc
BThe FF Beast base is metal
NSeveral folks are already using the large motors in DIY bases....
RI’m not a diy when it comes to electronics etc. I’d rather buy a finished product. I built my sim pit and I build my pc’s. I also build rifles etc but small electronics and such I’ll leave to the experts. A super rhino would be very cool. Truly some of the best parts of the rhino is @Number481 work on teleffb and @walmis awesome development.
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SAnswered.
NHopefully you enjoy today's incoming update!
HWhen you have a 3D-Printer, you only need the motor kit from Walmis, a spool of filament and 50 bucks worth of nuts and bolts and some parts….
BOnly the bearings are about 50 bucks, at least in my country
Bfigiuring out to do 3d printing well is not entirely like hooking up a laser jet though
Bsure a new bambu labs for 1k would make it easier, but I doubt that's where most start if they aren't already comfortable with it
HYou don’t need bearings…. (talking about my ffb-conversion of course, don’t know about others)
RAwaiting with bells on
JDiy wasn't the topic but yes that's cool some people can do that.
CI need a kit ready to assemble. I can assemble and not much else
N** TelemFFB Update v20240622**
"Big" update with several Quality-of-Life type enhancements. Please see below for the change log. If I @'ed you, there is something in the list below with your name on it based on a request you made or a conversation we had!.The TelemFFB section in the manual has also been revamped.
Your installs will prompt to be updated or you can grab the latest from https://github.com/walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB/releases
Thanks as always to @smitty for his contributions and those of you who have provided suggestions and feedback.
QoL Improvements
- New system tray implementation (see manual Section 4.6) @Will3D
- TelemFFB can now be sent to system tray on startup and/or close button. Window can be recalled by double-clicking the tray icon or from the icon right-click context menu
- System tray icon color indicates simulator run/pause/error state like the existing status icons
- Configuration errors (such as enabling MSFS force trim and having no binding configured) now present the error message in the UI, and generate a system tray notification for easier recognition of the issue.
- Real-time settings usability improvements @Piers
- Values update in near real-time when manipulating sliders
- Manipulating sliders no longer causes a form re-load
- -/+ buttons added to left/right of slider for single step adjustments
- Shift+Scroll wheel or left/right up/down arrow keys while hovering mouse of the slider is also supported
- Minor UI overhaul
- Look and feel updates with on/off sliders in lieu of checkboxes and improved icons.
General
- Look and feel updates with on/off sliders in lieu of checkboxes and improved icons.
- Configurator effect slider overrides (see manual Section 4.12 !!!)
- Now you can directly modify, in real-time, the slider gain setting for any of the effect types without creating and pushing a separate vpconf file
- Can be overridden on a per Sim/Aircraft Class/Specific Aircraft basis
- Easy to use, but important to understand how it works and how it interacts with the existing Dynamic "vpconf" profile feature. Please RTFM!
- As with any new complex feature there are sure to be bugs or potential enhancements so please give feedback!
- Minor enhancement to gear and canopy movement effects. You will feel a bump/clunk when the gear fully extend/retract or when the canopy (when applicable) closes
MSFS
- Improved/Simplified settings for adjusting dynamic spring forces (see manual Section 4.13.1.2)
- Brought to you by: @smitty
- Prior "Gain" setting is removed and the "Max Force" setting is now affixed to the aircraft "Vne" speed (learned via telemetry) while maintaining true dynamic forces based on aerodynamic conditions.
- "Expo" adjustment to adjust the rate at which the force falls off at low speeds.
- RTFM for the best experience using these new settings.
DCS
- Added tail-hook movement effect (supported on a/c with tailhooks ) @kaltokri
- Added wing-fold effect (F/A-18, F-14) @kaltokri
- Added fuel-boom effect (supported on a/c with fuel boom/door ) @kaltokri
- Added Co-Pilot/RIO Spring Override feature @Jaeger
- Can override/disable spring force when user has moved away from pilots seat. Optionally can bind a button that must also be held down.
- Seat data is not available at this time for some aircraft (like the F-4E).
NHere's a short demo of the Configurator Gains Override feature in action...
OSimnautica/FFBeast looks nice but won't take Virpil grips out of the box
DThe last update from Walmis was that it would be open sourced for you to print your parts or buy the kit. I'm waiting for the files to be available.
DFlitesim.com seem the leader of that pack and doubt you will get a yoke with those specs any cheaper.
DI thought you were going add Directx support 
VI don't know about that yet... MSFS has no directX FF implementation yet so everyone is just cooking up their own software. Idk if their software will be better than cls2sim or xpforce, let alone telemffb
VYou have a laserwing base right? How's the experience been with xpforce/msfs?
DMy comment is for Hardware specs and price. Software, yes each has there own solution since MSFS does not support native FFB yet.
DXpforce is not that good and really unsupported by the developer. Looks like he gave up a while ago and just likes to collect his USD10 or whatever the cost is. TelemFFB is a great piece of software.
VYeah that is the impression I got from the msfs forums as well unfortunately. Hopefully msfs24 will have a built in FFB implementation. In that case I think the brunner and simionic have an upper hand since they have DX ffb support. I'm a bit hesitant to drop $1k on a device with proprietary software
NRhino supports DX just fine.
VI know 
I was talking about the yokes.
I was talking about the yokes.NAhh! That’s what I get for reading comments out of context! 
Fis it a known issue that going to orders.vpforce.eu generates this nonsense?
FI suspect Comcast or Google is poisoning my DNS queries and that's the result. 
FIs anyone running the 86BLF04 motor at it's rated voltage of 48V, or only at 24V?
Ncan't say I've ever ran into that
Nthe actual url is a Google form no?
FI think so. It's blocking anything "vpforce.eu" apparently.
NGoogle Docs
Order request for VPforce products.
Please note: to reserve a VPforce RHINO FFB base, please use reservation form here.
Once the order is ready to be fulfilled an invoice will be sent to the provided email address.
Please note: to reserve a VPforce RHINO FFB base, please use reservation form here.
Once the order is ready to be fulfilled an invoice will be sent to the provided email address.
FI needed access to it to save myself a trip back out to my workshop. 
I found what i needed using the wayback machine.
I found what i needed using the wayback machine.FThanks though.
Ncan't wait to see Rhino in your eagle cockpit
FI'm looking forward to it. Unfortunately, the scanner I'm using shi*ts the bed when creating a point cloud of the scan right now. Soo pissed at Einstar over that.
RNice job homie. Will give it a go. I run with all of my master gains at 100% and have the effects tab adjusted for a specific feel. I don’t use separate airframe profiles. Only click force trim override when I wanna use in game vs vpforce.
RWell I guess I do Leslie’s by proxy within teleffb software…