Xpforce is not that good and really unsupported by the developer. Looks like he gave up a while ag

Xpforce is not that good and really unsupported by the developer. Looks like he gave up a while ago and just likes to collect his USD10 or whatever the cost is. TelemFFB is a great piece of software.

DDaz_bike Xpforce is not that good and really unsupported by the developer. Looks like h...

voidkitty•6/22/24, 9:12 PM

Yeah that is the impression I got from the msfs forums as well unfortunately. Hopefully msfs24 will have a built in FFB implementation. In that case I think the brunner and simionic have an upper hand since they have DX ffb support. I'm a bit hesitant to drop $1k on a device with proprietary software

Number481•6/22/24, 9:17 PM

Rhino supports DX just fine.

NNumber481 Rhino supports DX just fine.

voidkitty•6/22/24, 10:05 PM

I know

I was talking about the yokes.

Number481•6/22/24, 10:07 PM

Ahh! That’s what I get for reading comments out of context!

f15sim•6/22/24, 10:32 PM

is it a known issue that going to orders.vpforce.eu generates this nonsense?

f15sim•6/22/24, 10:33 PM

I suspect Comcast or Google is poisoning my DNS queries and that's the result.

f15sim•6/22/24, 10:39 PM

Is anyone running the 86BLF04 motor at it's rated voltage of 48V, or only at 24V?

Ff15sim is it a known issue that going to orders.vpforce.eu generates this nonsense?

nubbins•6/22/24, 11:06 PM

can't say I've ever ran into that

nubbins•6/22/24, 11:06 PM

the actual url is a Google form no?

f15sim•6/22/24, 11:06 PM

I think so. It's blocking anything "vpforce.eu" apparently.

nubbins•6/22/24, 11:06 PM

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSflUrHfM9AB0f-0WGyhOLxvXQNMr7E8TBDSYYJUBQ8kqaDC7g/viewform

Google Docs

VPforce Order Request

Order request for VPforce products.
Please note: to reserve a VPforce RHINO FFB base, please use reservation form here.

Once the order is ready to be fulfilled an invoice will be sent to the provided email address.

f15sim•6/22/24, 11:07 PM

I needed access to it to save myself a trip back out to my workshop.

I found what i needed using the wayback machine.

f15sim•6/22/24, 11:07 PM

Thanks though.

Ff15sim I needed access to it to save myself a trip back out to my workshop. 🙂 I found...

nubbins•6/22/24, 11:08 PM

can't wait to see Rhino in your eagle cockpit

f15sim•6/22/24, 11:09 PM

I'm looking forward to it. Unfortunately, the scanner I'm using shi*ts the bed when creating a point cloud of the scan right now. Soo pissed at Einstar over that.

NNumber481 Here's a short demo of the Configurator Gains Override feature in action...

Reed•6/23/24, 12:54 AM

Nice job homie. Will give it a go. I run with all of my master gains at 100% and have the effects tab adjusted for a specific feel. I don’t use separate airframe profiles. Only click force trim override when I wanna use in game vs vpforce.

Reed•6/23/24, 12:58 AM

Well I guess I do Leslie’s by proxy within teleffb software…

DDaz_bike The last update from Walmis was that it would be open sourced for you to print y...

Stoned Kakapo•6/23/24, 8:38 AM

Thank you very much!

Old Prospector•6/23/24, 4:02 PM

Is there a command on discord to skip 487 places in line?
No reason.

AndyHill•6/23/24, 4:28 PM

487 orders of Rhino on the wall, 487 orders of Rhino
Walmis builds one sends it away, 486 orders of Rhino on the wall

Old Prospector•6/23/24, 7:13 PM

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-patiently-waiting-for-you-waiting-on-you-gif-15489516379864441176

Tenor

.Eagle.•6/24/24, 12:21 AM

just start practicing stalking the mailman . So you can intercept him as soon as he leave the facility and collect you rhino right away.

..Eagle.just start practicing stalking the mailman . So you can intercept him as soon as...

nubbins•6/24/24, 12:22 AM

intercept enemy aircraft

intercept Fedex employees

..Eagle.just start practicing stalking the mailman . So you can intercept him as soon as...

SamNFTY•6/24/24, 12:29 AM

That's gonna be my day tomorrow

OOld Prospector Is there a command on discord to skip 487 places in line? No reason.

Fierce_Fire•6/24/24, 8:09 AM

Its called DIY ~~Join us~~

Hiob•6/24/24, 8:41 AM

@walmis I encountered the following issue with VP control software. To increase the centering precision I steepend the spring force curve around the middle position. which worked well. However, whenever TelemFFB loads this profile, the curve gets messed up (basically it is deleted beyond the first custom set point). Is this a TelemFFB problem or a VP control problem? (Or a me-problem?)

HHiob @walmis I encountered the following issue with VP control software. To increase ...

walmis•6/24/24, 10:40 AM

can you send me the vpconf file?

Wwalmis can you send me the vpconf file?

Hiob•6/24/24, 11:36 AM

Sure, I will try to reproduce the issue and send you the file. To elaborate a bit further - I created a "detent" around the middle position by implementing a small spike in the spring curve. Worked like a charm when testing dry, but once the game started and the profile was loaded, it "blocked" the pedals to one side and when looking at the custom curve in VP control, it was messed up. Reseting it solves the issue for the session, but of course, the custom detent is gone. (I was using this for helicopters - the idea was to feel the middle position of the pedals, even though they are without spring forces otherwise)

HHiob Sure, I will try to reproduce the issue and send you the file. To elaborate a bi...

Number481•6/24/24, 11:49 AM

Sounds like you confirmed the profile did not push correctly, which is wierd since pushing from TelemFFB should be the same as loading a profile using the import button in configurator...

But.. don't forget that TelemFFB by default sets the spring to 0 with an override (which will also override any "sticky" you have in configurator). So unless you set the pedal spring mode to "Static" and set the gain in TelemFFB, you will never feel any spring.

NNumber481 Sounds like you confirmed the profile did not push correctly, which is wierd sin...

Hiob•6/24/24, 11:52 AM

I know. The issue was, that the pedals didn't went limb when it happened, but stiff (only on one side) and either way it shouldn't alter the gain curve in the vpconf, no? I assume the issue occured due to my messing with the curve, but it's beyond my capabilities to pinpoint the reason. Probably some "division by zero" problem, I created....

Daystrom•6/24/24, 3:40 PM

@walmis just an FYI

AndyHill•6/24/24, 3:44 PM

well that is quite hazardous to your wallet

Daystrom•6/24/24, 3:47 PM

Should I report the MFG kit pre-order as well?

blave549•6/24/24, 3:51 PM

@walmis I was at the FSExpo in Las Vegas (a.k.a. Sin City) over the weekend. Virpil has a new grip that I'm quite excited about -- the FLNKR. There's nothing on the web about it yet that I can find, but it is part of a new "Expert Series" product line. Its body and trigger are metal, and it has a new hat design. One of my peeves about the Alpha and Alpha Prime Virpil grips that I had, but sold, is that I found it very difficult to press down on a hat without also actuating one of the other switches on the hat (L/R/U/D). The new hat locks into its center when slightly pressed down, which prevents that -- very clever. The grip feels great (it is pretty large though) and I was told that it's a replica of the grip that's in some Su jets.

I forgot to ask how much it will cost, but I'm not sure they would've told me. No release date yet.

I mention it only b/c I want to get it on your long-range A-A radar in terms of button/hat support on the Rhino. I will be holding off on buying the grip until that support is in place... It's shown in the product catalog I got at the show. EDIT: I just found some images of some of the new products: https://imgur.com/a/virpil-fsexpo-2024-hardware-pics-1Mq6as9

They also have a new Cadet grip that's coming out, and (not that it matters here) a new Expert Series "VMax Prime" throttle.

DDaystrom @walmis just an FYI

walmis•6/24/24, 4:31 PM

Thanks for the heads up! Submitted a dispute to cisco umbrella.

Number481•6/24/24, 4:39 PM

Cisco Umbrella - "We scare your users so you don't have to!"

AAndyHill 487 orders of Rhino on the wall, 487 orders of Rhino Walmis builds one sends it ...

TheZoq2•6/24/24, 4:41 PM

487 orders of Rhino on the wall, 487 orders of Rhino
Walmis builds one sends it away, 495 orders of Rhino on the wall

Diverzant•6/24/24, 5:17 PM

I know I read it somewhere but cant find it atm. VKB sticks, I need the blackbox to read the stick buttons, I guess I also need a longer cable and the final question the connector? What exactly is needed?

FlatSpin•6/24/24, 5:24 PM

Did you order the vkb adapter connector from Walmis?

Bblave549 @walmis I was at the FSExpo in Las Vegas (a.k.a. Sin City) over the weekend. Vir...

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:26 PM

nice

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:26 PM

it looks like a more accurate representation of more up to date Su-57 cockpit mockups

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:26 PM

As opposed to MCGU and T50 which were both more reflective of the late Su-35 design

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:27 PM

which is rather funny since I'm pretty sure the T50 name is supposed to evoke references to the prototype Su-57

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:27 PM

nicer hats too

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:27 PM

T50 hats look weird compared to MCGU and the real thing

FFlatSpin Did you order the vkb adapter connector from Walmis?

Diverzant•6/24/24, 5:28 PM

Will do when its time for the making of the actual order itself, forgot to do it on the preorder thingy. I am still quite a long way off but VKB is now in stock

DDiverzant Will do when its time for the making of the actual order itself, forgot to do it...

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:28 PM

the cable is integrated into the adapter

Diverzant•6/24/24, 5:30 PM

what about the stick connector itself?

DDiverzant what about the stick connector itself?

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:30 PM

? the adapter handles that, and the cable comes out of the adapter

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:30 PM

plug it into the blackbox

Xpforce is not that good and really unsupported by the developer. Looks like he gave up a while ag

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