Universal Blue•2y ago

No you don't get it, Valve optimized it in ways you'll never understand

Crono•6/22/24, 7:07 PM

The Valve guys did say in interviews it took some work, I guess that was more so on the hardware platform end

KKyle Gospo Can you elaborate

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:08 PM

Yes

VValerie No you don't get it, Valve optimized it in ways you'll never understand

halva•6/22/24, 7:08 PM

>There's a reason we've seen constant improvements in deck performance
Mesa engineers:

Mmbghbg Click to see attachment

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:08 PM

Here @Kyle Gospo

halva•6/22/24, 7:09 PM

holy shit that image got crunchy lmao

halva•6/22/24, 7:09 PM

discord moment

Hhalva >There's a reason we've seen constant improvements in deck performance Mesa eng...

ValerieOP•6/22/24, 7:09 PM

"But now you don't even have to wait for shaders to compile! You can just skip it and it's fine! Praise Valve!"

VValerie "But now you don't even have to wait for shaders to compile! You can just skip i...

halva•6/22/24, 7:10 PM

tbf there are like a few games where shader compilation makes me want to commit a crime against mankind xd

halva•6/22/24, 7:10 PM

(warframe being the most notable example)

ValerieOP•6/22/24, 7:10 PM

It's frustrating arguing with people who's source for Linux knowledge are handheld reviewers who parrot marketing material

VValerie "But now you don't even have to wait for shaders to compile! You can just skip i...

Crono•6/22/24, 7:10 PM

Isn't Valve pumping money into Mesa though?

CCrono Isn't Valve pumping money into Mesa though?

ValerieOP•6/22/24, 7:11 PM

I mean probably, but that work benefits every distro.

halva•6/22/24, 7:11 PM

yeah it's not something specific to steamos

ValerieOP•6/22/24, 7:11 PM

Hell it benefits SteamOS quite a bit after, as I previously said, because of the update cycle.

Crono•6/22/24, 7:11 PM

That is to Valve's credit though

halva•6/22/24, 7:11 PM

if anything steamos is usually late to the party

halva•6/22/24, 7:11 PM

Crono•6/22/24, 7:11 PM

Same with Wine

Kasher_CS•6/22/24, 7:12 PM

Steamos being immutable also helps us

CCrono That is to Valve's credit though

ValerieOP•6/22/24, 7:12 PM

I mean it's great they're doing it, but saying "Well Valve pays mesa" doesn't suddenly make SteamOS's implementation of it better.

VValerie I mean it's great they're doing it, but saying "Well Valve pays mesa" doesn't su...

Crono•6/22/24, 7:12 PM

That is true as well

KKasher_CS Steamos being immutable also helps us

ValerieOP•6/22/24, 7:13 PM

I mean, yeah kinda does. I'd imagine mostly in more attention being placed on Flatpaks.

halva•6/22/24, 7:14 PM

honestly it's pretty surprising to me i havent seen any complaints about flatpaks being sandboxed

Mmbghbg Here @Kyle Gospo

Kyle Gospo•6/22/24, 7:19 PM

I've got no idea there, I've never experienced anything like it

Kyle Gospo•6/22/24, 7:19 PM

What kind of drive is that?

CCrono The Valve guys did say in interviews it took some work, I guess that was more so...

Kyle Gospo•6/22/24, 7:20 PM

Yeah, their firmware is extremely optimized as far as suspend and resume times are concerned

Kyle Gospo•6/22/24, 7:20 PM

All of the work went there, there's no patches in their kernel for sleep

Kasher_CS•6/22/24, 7:22 PM

Is there a consistant reasoning for fullscreen being broken?

Kasher_CS•6/22/24, 7:23 PM

I know now

gamescope

gamescope

fixes it but why does it even happen in the first place

KKyle Gospo All of the work went there, there's no patches in their kernel for sleep

Kasher_CS•6/22/24, 7:24 PM

So we benefit from that as well (On deck), I see

VValerie No you don't get it, Valve optimized it in ways you'll never understand

j0rge•6/22/24, 7:25 PM

If only there was a way to inspect their changes and apply them to other projects.

KKyle Gospo What kind of drive is that?

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:27 PM

Nvme pny sc3030 1tb, on ubuntu and openSUSE copying files doesn’t affect my programs

Mmbghbg Nvme pny sc3030 1tb, on ubuntu and openSUSE copying files doesn’t affect my prog...

Kyle Gospo•6/22/24, 7:27 PM

I mean we don't make any changes to help file copying works

Kyle Gospo•6/22/24, 7:27 PM

And I've never had that issue

Kyle Gospo•6/22/24, 7:28 PM

I wouldn't even know where to start looking for this problem

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:28 PM

:SilvervaleThinkings:

Kasher_CS•6/22/24, 7:28 PM

Technically you can try it on Fedora

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:28 PM

It also happens on my backup PC

KKasher_CS Technically you can try it on Fedora

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:28 PM

No thanks, it broke literally 3 times

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:28 PM

After update

Kasher_CS•6/22/24, 7:29 PM

Fedora Silverblue than

Shacruel•6/22/24, 7:29 PM

Gave up trying to make flatpak firefox work on the nvidia testing branch. That flag doesn't help with crashes. Ended up installing firefox in Ubuntu distrobox, seems to work fine

KKasher_CS Fedora Silverblue than

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:29 PM

Had same issue with file copy on silver blue

Kasher_CS•6/22/24, 7:29 PM

Than this is an upstream problem

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:30 PM

:SilvervaleThinkings:

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:31 PM

Not sure cuz it was old build back in time now issue still appears

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:31 PM

I installed bazzite to check it but dunno what’s happening

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:31 PM

I wish use bazzite but that issue is annoying

Kasher_CS•6/22/24, 7:32 PM

You should try and report it to Fedora since its a problem on their end

mbghbg•6/22/24, 7:33 PM

:SilvervaleThinkings:

No you don't get it, Valve optimized it in ways you'll never understand

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