Universal Blue•2y ago

probably a really stupid question but i use some apps and utils not within flatpak (gui) and brew (c

probably a really stupid question but
i use some apps and utils not within flatpak (gui) and brew (cli)
am i kinda fucked? (by that i mean is there an easier way than distrobox and exporting it?)

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imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:33 AM

like i use nix quite often along with thorium browser
im new to nix but i love it and mostly use it for devenv/nixpacks

imide

Iimide probably a really stupid question but i use some apps and utils not within flatp...

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:33 AM

not recommended but you can layer it

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:33 AM

yeah i saw that

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:33 AM

again looks quite annoying

tryhardsoccermomswag

Ttryhardsoccermomswag the ublue "base images" come with this

Jazze (plz ping when reply)

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Jazze (plz ping when reply)•6/27/24, 4:34 AM

I downloaded the bazzite gnome nvidia Asus

Jazze (plz ping when reply)

JJazze (plz ping when reply)I downloaded the bazzite gnome nvidia Asus

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:34 AM

i understand that

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:34 AM

i kinda wish there was another manager that basically goes onto repology or smth, looks for UTD packages, asks which preferred or whatever and distrobox-exports for u

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

to avoid the headaches

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

im saying the base images, what bazzite is built on, has that package

imide

Iimide i kinda wish there was another manager that basically goes onto repology or smth...

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

eventually fedora atomic will be bootc + dnf

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

ok

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:35 AM

right now we have to use

rpm-ostree

rpm-ostree

as basically a crutch

tryhardsoccermomswag

Ttryhardsoccermomswag not recommended but you can layer it

Iris

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Iris•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

what exactly is the issue with layering?

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

also looks like nix is a no-go? looking at prev messages

imide

Iimide also looks like nix is a no-go? looking at prev messages

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

breaks selinux

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

won't return

Iris

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Iris•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

i'm assuming it would just create your usual package manager issues of multiple dependency versions

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

Brew & Distrobox replace it

Iris

IIris what exactly is the issue with layering?

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

dependency issues just like a traditional package manager + slower updates + those dependency issues break updates especially for major releases

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

yeah

Iris

IIris what exactly is the issue with layering?

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

what you mentioned + slower

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:36 AM

with all of these issues, should i not switch? arch/windows rn

imide

Iimide with all of these issues, should i not switch? arch/windows rn

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

I wouldn't call them issues, these are just differences

Kyle Gospo

KKyle Gospo Brew & Distrobox replace it

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

i use nixpacks and devenv however

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

Bazzite is an atomic image, things are just done very differently

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

yeah this is just fedora atomic desktop but gaming packages/tweaks out of the box

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

they have features that distrobox and brew cannot

Iris

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Iris•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

I mostly want to install a window manager at some point to replace gnome, but i suppose at that point I could just fork the template right?

Saki

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Saki•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

Well if you want to install a lot of weird shit not in brew nor flatpak and you don't want to use a container, then yeah this would not be the distro for you

imide

Iimide they have features that distrobox and brew cannot

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

your only option would be to use the nix installer & disable selinux

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

obviously we cannot ship that to end users, but nothing stops you from doing it

Saki

SSaki Well if you want to install a lot of weird shit not in brew nor flatpak and you ...

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:37 AM

i mean i use containers a lot

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

but my issue is my main browser (thorium) isnt flatpak

imide

Iimide but my issue is my main browser (thorium) isnt flatpak

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

distrobox candidate for sure

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

and im already terrible at not fucking things up lmao

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

distrobox is not that scary

Iris

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Iris•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

like i get the idea of everything being brew/distroboxable, but as far as I know wayland compositors can't really be done via those

Iris

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Iris•6/27/24, 4:38 AM

unless they can and I'm just stupid

tryhardsoccermomswag

Ttryhardsoccermomswag distrobox is not that scary

imide

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imideOP•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

as a fucking moron, it is for me

Iris

IIris like i get the idea of everything being brew/distroboxable, but as far as I know...

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

wayland compositing works fine via distrobox

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

xwayland does not because you have to be root to create a new public x session

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

and no, that does not mean xwayland apps don't work via distrobox

imide

Iimide as a fucking moron, it is for me 😭

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

worst thing that can happen is your home directory being filled with junk files

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

its a container

Jazze (plz ping when reply)

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Jazze (plz ping when reply)•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

Mfw sunshine jumpscared tf outta me by turning on speech screen reader accessibility

Jazze (plz ping when reply)

JJazze (plz ping when reply)Mfw sunshine jumpscared tf outta me by turning on speech screen reader accessibi...

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

Jazze (plz ping when reply)

JJazze (plz ping when reply)Mfw sunshine jumpscared tf outta me by turning on speech screen reader accessibi...

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

tryhardsoccermomswag

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tryhardsoccermomswag•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

sunshine on gnome bug

Iris

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Iris•6/27/24, 4:39 AM

so I could install something like hyprland in a distrobox and replace gnome with it?

Iris

IIris so I could install something like hyprland in a distrobox and replace gnome with...

Kyle Gospo

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Kyle Gospo•6/27/24, 4:40 AM

you could, replacing gnome is another story entirely