docs really is a hard one and if people want to contribute they're probably gonna write the stuff up

docs really is a hard one and if people want to contribute they're probably gonna write the stuff up-front with little regard for how it gets hosted in the end

Wheeler•6/28/24, 12:52 AM

Can't seem to rebase with this python error. Something weird I need to fix?

PezOP•6/28/24, 12:52 AM

you just have to be a facilitator where you can :v

j0rge•6/28/24, 12:52 AM

I mean, I freaking wish it was just like contributing to the k8s docs, but it's a totally different crowd

WWheeler Rebasing to :testing. Got this: ```Importing packages... done Relabeling... done...

Kyle Gospo•6/28/24, 12:52 AM

rpm-ostree statusrpm-ostree status

PPez docs really is a hard one and if people want to contribute they're probably gonn...

Tsubajashi (ツバジャシ)•6/28/24, 12:52 AM

ye, i wouldnt mind anything in particular, really

Jj0rge I mean, I freaking wish it was just like contributing to the k8s docs, but it's ...

indrora•6/28/24, 12:53 AM

Then be the half of the equation you’re missing.

PezOP•6/28/24, 12:53 AM

what we do for the NZ:P docs is just API mirror the content from github to a server

PezOP•6/28/24, 12:53 AM

and we also accept submissions from people up-front because it's not like they all use github

indrora•6/28/24, 12:53 AM

U2F.garden has had a handful of people submit fixes and updates over time

Iindrora Then be the half of the equation you’re missing.

j0rge•6/28/24, 12:54 AM

hah. This would be like the 4th time. But I'm down if you are, if you two wanna grab what we have and make it look awesome, and it's all in github and actioned up, I'd +1 that.

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/28/24, 12:54 AM

i dont really have a problem with the lack of contributors with the docs tbh

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/28/24, 12:54 AM

the bazzite buzz newsletter stuff on the other hand lol

Tsubajashi (ツバジャシ)•6/28/24, 12:54 AM

oh boy newsletter
i would really love to help, but in that regards im really bad haha

Tsubajashi (ツバジャシ)•6/28/24, 12:54 AM

but docs are fine

PezOP•6/28/24, 12:54 AM

i think it's better having a handful of contributors because you want your docs to be really strictly written

KKyle Gospo `rpm-ostree status`

Wheeler•6/28/24, 12:54 AM

~$ rpm-ostree status
State: idle
Deployments:
● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-gnome-nvidia:latest
                   Digest: sha256:26e7df3e555a1ad6fb7824c01ae43130bc9447d63274810c2f3d7455374f198d
                  Version: 40.20240625.0 (2024-06-27T02:01:58Z)
          LayeredPackages: coolercontrol edk2-ovmf libldm liquidctl openrazer-meta qemu razergenie samba sunshine
                           ulauncher virt-manager
                   Pinned: yes

  ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-gnome-nvidia:latest
                   Digest: sha256:0c4b7e972517bcffe2de7d0770728bc428ed0940249e39ecaa7d8ba0d89b9008
                  Version: 40.20240624.0 (2024-06-24T17:17:05Z)
          LayeredPackages: coolercontrol edk2-ovmf libldm liquidctl openrazer-meta qemu razergenie samba sunshine
                           ulauncher virt-manager

~$ rpm-ostree status
State: idle
Deployments:
● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-gnome-nvidia:latest
                   Digest: sha256:26e7df3e555a1ad6fb7824c01ae43130bc9447d63274810c2f3d7455374f198d
                  Version: 40.20240625.0 (2024-06-27T02:01:58Z)
          LayeredPackages: coolercontrol edk2-ovmf libldm liquidctl openrazer-meta qemu razergenie samba sunshine
                           ulauncher virt-manager
                   Pinned: yes

  ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-gnome-nvidia:latest
                   Digest: sha256:0c4b7e972517bcffe2de7d0770728bc428ed0940249e39ecaa7d8ba0d89b9008
                  Version: 40.20240624.0 (2024-06-24T17:17:05Z)
          LayeredPackages: coolercontrol edk2-ovmf libldm liquidctl openrazer-meta qemu razergenie samba sunshine
                           ulauncher virt-manager

Jj0rge hah. This would be like the 4th time. But I'm down if you are, if you two wanna ...

indrora•6/28/24, 12:55 AM

What’s the history on docs with bazzite/ublue?

PezOP•6/28/24, 12:55 AM

trying to bring in as many people as possible will just end up with low quality / AI submissions all over the place

PezOP•6/28/24, 12:55 AM

anyway

Wheeler•6/28/24, 12:56 AM

I actually might finally be able to get rid of libldm after eliminating my windows dynamic disk.

Iindrora What’s the history on docs with bazzite/ublue?

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/28/24, 12:56 AM

the ublue-os/website repo :dinobones:

Iindrora What’s the history on docs with bazzite/ublue?

j0rge•6/28/24, 12:57 AM

readmes first, then there was a short time of just a docs directory with markdown files, no rendering, then we had /website repo with mkdocs-material, then moved to discourse once we were large enough to qualify for their OSS plan

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/28/24, 12:59 AM

documenting is hard when the target audience is split down the middle. tons of new linux users here but then there's like a good chunk of users who have been using linux for a long time and want a tiling window manager image

Jj0rge readmes first, then there was a short time of just a docs directory with markdow...

indrora•6/28/24, 12:59 AM

I have a hierarchy of durability/usability of different formats, and forums and discord are all the way at the bottom of both for various reasons.

Searching discord is bad at best. Forums become… toxic if not carefully moderated.

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/28/24, 12:59 AM

and mostly i just explain what fedora atomic desktop already does and linux gaming lol

Ttryhardsoccermomswag documenting is hard when the target audience is split down the middle. tons of ...

indrora•6/28/24, 1:00 AM

That’s perfectly doable. I’ve done it many a time.

tryhardsoccermomswag•6/28/24, 1:00 AM

stuff that is kind of already documented elsewhere im sure

indrora•6/28/24, 1:01 AM

Something on the order of LineageOS’ device page would be a good reference to start with honestly

j0rge•6/28/24, 1:01 AM

moderation of the forums isn't an issue, discourse is pretty great for that. Agree with discord, but bazzite using it for user support isn't up to me.

indrora•6/28/24, 1:01 AM

For support it’s fine so long as you don’t go “did you search first?”

j0rge•6/28/24, 1:02 AM

We have a whole spiel somewhere about github being the source of truth

j0rge•6/28/24, 1:03 AM

Dunno, I don't do support in discord, I concentrate on github and discourse, I have to be async

indrora•6/28/24, 1:06 AM

yeah.

The tl;dr of my hierarchy of documentation is
wiki > static site > text files in a git repo > bug tracker > PDFs/Docxs in a git repo > source code in a repo > Forums/Chat

indrora•6/28/24, 1:06 AM

Wiki and static site are 50/50 at the top, have tradeoffs.

TyTyCameraYT•6/28/24, 1:17 AM

welp ChimeraOS wasnt working properly on my pc so im now in the bazzite family

TyTyCameraYT•6/28/24, 1:21 AM

its time for some custom console builds

WWheeler ```~$ rpm-ostree status State: idle Deployments: ● ostree-image-signed:docker://...

Kyle Gospo•6/28/24, 1:33 AM

You have a lot layered, my guess is it's something you layered

Wheeler•6/28/24, 1:33 AM

@Kyle Gospo It seems so clear saying it out loud, but I don't think I realized that rebasing or setting up another deployment is just compiling it all on the side, so the error is an error of putting it all together. I'll start removing layers and see what happens.

Kyle Gospo•6/28/24, 1:33 AM

What you can do is save this so you can relayer your stuff, and then:

Kyle Gospo•6/28/24, 1:33 AM

rpm-ostree reset

rpm-ostree reset

Kyle Gospo•6/28/24, 1:33 AM

Once you rebase just go ahead and try reinstalling everything exactly as it was

Wheeler•6/28/24, 1:34 AM

I can do that. You'd expect that if that all worked out as planned that everything would be roughly back where it started? That is, no configs or other substantive system files should be that altered? (Assuming one of them isn't clearly just not playing nice.)

Kyle Gospo•6/28/24, 1:34 AM

Right, you're only changing stuff in the files you can't otherwise change

Kyle Gospo•6/28/24, 1:34 AM

It's not going to take away your dot files or anything else

Wheeler•6/28/24, 1:35 AM

Sounds good. Thank you.

KKyle Gospo `rpm-ostree reset`

Janier•6/28/24, 2:03 AM

reset will revert bazzite like if you just installed it?

JJanier reset will revert bazzite like if you just installed it?

Kyle Gospo•6/28/24, 2:03 AM

Just remove your changes

Kyle Gospo•6/28/24, 2:03 AM

Ie layered packages

Janier•6/28/24, 2:04 AM

good to know for the future

Wheeler•6/28/24, 2:06 AM

@Kyle Gospo I reset layers, rebooted, rebased to :testing, rebooted. It default logged into Gnome xorg. I logged out and selected Gnome. Each time I put in my password, it sent me back to the gdm login where I'd put in my password and it would repeat. I switched to another tty and rebooted. Then it went straight to the terminal, no gdm. I was able to use startx there to get x11 to appear. But after rebooting and running "gdm" from the terminal, it went black and locked up. Felt like a similar black screen/lockup as was happening with :testing a day or two ago.

~$ rpm-ostree status State: idle Deployments: ● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-gnome-nvidia:latest Digest: sha256:26e7df3e555a1ad6fb7824c01ae43130bc9447d63274810c2f3d7455374f198d Version: 40.20240625.0 (2024-06-27T02:01:58Z) LayeredPackages: coolercontrol edk2-ovmf libldm liquidctl openrazer-meta qemu razergenie samba sunshine ulauncher virt-manager Pinned: yes ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-gnome-nvidia:latest Digest: sha256:0c4b7e972517bcffe2de7d0770728bc428ed0940249e39ecaa7d8ba0d89b9008 Version: 40.20240624.0 (2024-06-24T17:17:05Z) LayeredPackages: coolercontrol edk2-ovmf libldm liquidctl openrazer-meta qemu razergenie samba sunshine ulauncher virt-manager

docs really is a hard one and if people want to contribute they're probably gonna write the stuff up

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