Kchange back
Jwhat's the issue?
Jwhat does chsh to a brew term mean?
K1: users will change to a terminal that is in a user-owned directory, you can now delete a file and destroy your session
2: users will change to a terminal they've layered, they can now unlayer it to destroy their session
3: Users on KDE can switch away from bash, they have now destroyed their session
2: users will change to a terminal they've layered, they can now unlayer it to destroy their session
3: Users on KDE can switch away from bash, they have now destroyed their session
P+1
Psounds like a support landmine
Jdoes fedora remove it?
KThey wanted to in Silverblue
Kno idea where that discussion went
Kbut I agree w/ the concept
Kstill there or we wouldn't have it
SI don't think forcing everyone to use bash is tenable? Surely not in Aurora-dx and they presumably have figured it out. I've been using fish for 8 years
Jno clue, I have fish and zsh on my image already, no strong opinion, file it in main and let's kick off the discussion
Psounds like just it being there by default here is enough for it to cause a support problem when somebody starts screwing with random ask ubuntu terminal commands
KYou're not forced to, we're just forcing you to not use chsh
Pbut you'd have to see if that ever actually happens
KIt's easily changed in Ptyxis
KOr most other terminal emulators
KAnd that has the consequence of not breaking shit
Plike have any users broken shit here by chsh yet?
MYeah you can always modify the file by hand.
But I'm strongly in favor of removing chsh
But I'm strongly in favor of removing chsh
MYes
KNot only that but fish comes pre-installed here
KSo you've installed a brew copy of something you already have
Jthat's 2 approvers, that'll be enough, PR it
Peasy
KSold
JI think there's just things that probably need to go along with it?
KJust a warning that if you've changed your terminal away from bash, change back
VThis message will be used in a video on why distros with small teams are bad, I can smell it
MYes all of the just chsh commands in config
Pif you can turn it into a Not My Problem when somebody fucks with it, that's a win though
MMayhem inbound
KThose I think we can definitely upgrade to work with Ptyxis
KAnyway, let's not rush this and be sure it's very slow roll
Jwould this affect bluefin where I have zsh and fish on the image already?
SOh yeah I forgot - I originally did that but switched it back later to the one in /usr. The brew one seems to be cached somewhere though
edit: rebooting uncached it and the update succeeded thereafter
edit: rebooting uncached it and the update succeeded thereafter
Pisn't the bash thing just a not break KDE moment
KIt's definitely a KDE bug that changing your terminal breaks the session
Pthat tracks :wheeze:
KBut it's also our problem when you can easily layer a terminal, change to it, and then unlayer it to break your install
KRather just avoid it in the first place
Pyeah that's just a rabbithole
AIn the last update firefox keep crashing on wayland but not on xorg :c
KNvidia?
Ayep
Pno way! me too!
Qnshitia
KExpected behavior, the issue with Mozilla and fixes for it are in the latest release notes on Discourse
