yes they are. The big disconnect is between trim being a button and the stick
yes they are. The big disconnect is between trim being a button and the stick
MI can have forces correct but then trim works right in game but trim force is wrong. If i change the stick force then the forces are backwards but the trim is correct force wise
NWhat aircraft and which sim you are flying is important information. I'll assume DCS. As Hiob said, ensuring the axis view in configurator correctly follows the stick is step 1. In DCS, most aircraft are fine just this way. There are a couple aircraft (the F5 comes to mind) that need to have the FFB inverted on one or more axes in the "FF Tune" options.
MMSFS and T6A. I have had this stick for some time in DCS and enjoyed it alot. But yea using tellem in msfs things are just backwards
Min the VPForce configurator, the stick moves the correct way. In MSFS I have the stick forces correct (though it oscillates even turning down gain and such in configurator) but when I move my nose up trim, the nose does come up but the stick moves forward. I just cant wrap my mind around a way to change the force for that.
Mcould it be something in the MSFS code or the T6 code? So In sim I just swapped the hat and trim force is still wrong. Anytime nose trims up the stick always moves forward.
Nif you hold the trim down, does it initially move the wrong direction and then correct itself or does it continue to move in the wrong direction to the trim stop? It's unlikely that the telemetry is backwards from the aircraft (what drives the feature in TelemFFB) but I suppose its possible. It's more likely that the physical/virtual trim setup in TelemFFB needs some tuning for that aircraft. You can read about how the trim following works in the manual here and there is a procedure at the end of that section for setting it up for a new aircraft. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YL5DLkiTxlaNx_zKHEYSs25PjmGtQ6_WZDk58_SGt8Y/edit#heading=h.hio77pvon5m3 @Mistic
Myea it continues to move in the wrong direction.
Mso this says to unbind the axis?
NYes, to support autopilot and trim following, TelemFFB must be in control of the axes which means you must un-bind them in the sim or else MSFS and TelemFFB will be fighting with eachother for control of the axis position
MOkay they are unbound in the sim. Now I just have no force on the stick it is odd
Mokay yea so I am getting it to work now. Time to tweak this stuff. Seems there is a massive deadzone to the left aileron which is odd
MI appreciate it. Man this is finiky at this point I’m just gonna stop with the rhino in msfs. All it works now but yea the actual accuracy of it in sim is terrible compared to having it bound in sim. So frustrating
NAfter a quick scan through the T6A manual, it seems as if it is using an external flight model and control mapping (the latter of which I have never seen before). TelemFFB relies heavily on default Simvar data for its operation. When one-off “outside the norm” aircraft are developed, all bets are off.
The manual explicitly states:
That probably also means that reading/writing the standard simvar stuff will have unpredictable results.
The manual explicitly states:
The tablet takes the place of the corresponding default MSFS configuration, control mapping, and failures screens.
The corresponding MSFS options controls are not compatible with the ADV system.That probably also means that reading/writing the standard simvar stuff will have unpredictable results.
N@walmis sorry for the ping. Do you know what would cause "grindiness" under heavier (50%+) spring force, at the outer edges of Y axis movement? Can it be the belt? With my hand on the belt, the roughness seems to originate there and feel almost like it is slipping teeth slightly. And only happens on the rebound to center, never on the way out; also it is very noticeable on one side of the belt ("upper" side on one side of the motor pulley), never even slightly on the belt on the other side of the pulley.
NI'm thinking it HAS to be belt related from the way it feels/sounds/behaves. Unless it's motor itself (god forbid).
HApart from checking for any loose parts (pulley, shaft screws, cables) I haven't much ideas right now. How dows it feel, when you loosen the tension on the belt a bit?
HAnd how does it feel when you reduce the spring gain by 50% (just as a test)
HIf the motor was faulty, the gain shouldn't have any influence. I think.
KHave you checked the small pulley bolt?
L@walmis
HI .
I received my #order and I’m very very happy .
Thank you so much .
But In the box Is there something forgotten?
Is this the part #Machined Aluminum grip?
HI .
I received my #order and I’m very very happy .
Thank you so much .
But In the box Is there something forgotten?
Is this the part #Machined Aluminum grip?
L
WHi, it's mounted for your convenience 
LHI 
But I don't have the part?
But I don't have the part?
LForget In the box
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Lsorry to bother you
LYou forgot, I sometimes put the part in my delivery box
LKhaha 
It's already mounted on top of your gimbal
It's already mounted on top of your gimbalL@Kowalsky
Hi .
I understand now ,sorry with My idiot question
Hi .
I understand now ,sorry with My idiot question
L@walmis
Sorry lol
Sorry lol
LMy brain is tired
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NBelt tension doesn't change how it behaves
NLower spring force will gradually remove the grindiness altogether but that's somewhere below 50%
Nyes grub screws are fine, I'm on different pulleys now but with exact same symptoms
WHow does it feel if you turn the motor pulley without the belt?
Nhmmm I haven't tried with the motors energized yet
NWhen not energized, the motor pulley obviously cogs but some cogs feel bigger than others if you get what I mean
NI have some new 465 and 420 belts coming in tmr but I'm starting to doubt they will change anything
Nwait this is a really good point, I haven't tried doing this yet with the gain turned up
WI kinda doubt it's the motor, but worth to check
HI have the same effect on my MFG Crosswind FFB Mod. Everything goes smooth, unless I increase the gain too much, than it starts to feel grainy. The belt is not slipping though….
HSo I‘m really interested in the conclusion to this issue. Haven’t had any similar problems on the Rhino though.
NIt's demoralizing as hell trying to wade through this alone, lol
NI hate dealing with novel issues
HYes, I feel you. Unfortunately it is hard to remote diagnose a problem. As I said, I kind of know what you experience. I think I had similar with my pedals. For me it was solved via a well tuned software profile.
Nalso pondering whether it's a bad size pairing between both pulleys and belt
NBut then again, everyone following protomaker would have the same problem, and they don't
H@nubbins Maybe it is a bad pairing between spring gain and belt tension?