Universal Blue•2y ago

the best antivirus is: Update your dependencies And look what you are downloading, from where

the best antivirus is:
Update your dependencies
And look what you are downloading, from where

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 8:52 PM

but malware on linux is trivial

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 8:52 PM

most users are primed to sudo things when they run into permission issues

ZZeglius the best antivirus is: Update your dependencies And look what you are downloadin...

Kamquat•7/3/24, 8:52 PM

and if something pops up asking for your sudo password, don't just blindly type it in without knowing what and why

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 8:52 PM

sudo malware and gg

KKamquat and if something pops up asking for your sudo password, don't just blindly type ...

ZegliusOP•7/3/24, 8:53 PM

Just do as vanilla-os and remove the sudo binary

ZegliusOP•7/3/24, 8:53 PM

Easy xD

Kamquat•7/3/24, 8:53 PM

meh

Crono•7/3/24, 8:53 PM

Well the initial sudo prompt tells you about it

Janier•7/3/24, 8:53 PM

There is some file scanner for malware?

Crono•7/3/24, 8:53 PM

Debian doesn't come with sudo either

Kamquat•7/3/24, 8:53 PM

just be a rogue, use doas.

ZegliusOP•7/3/24, 8:53 PM

pkexec

confusedsiren56•7/3/24, 8:54 PM

Even something as simple as windows defender so like a virus scanner would do for me I don't need much

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 8:54 PM

but ultimately, there are various factors that make malware targeting linux impractical outside of targeted attacks

Cconfusedsiren56 Even something as simple as windows defender so like a virus scanner would do fo...

Crono•7/3/24, 8:54 PM

You don't need it

Cconfusedsiren56 Even something as simple as windows defender so like a virus scanner would do fo...

antheas•7/3/24, 8:54 PM

theres nothing like that and viruses for linux dont exist yet

antheas•7/3/24, 8:54 PM

lets cross that bridge when we get there

RRoyAwesome but ultimately, there are various factors that make malware targeting linux impr...

Kamquat•7/3/24, 8:54 PM

I mean, nothing stops PEBKAC

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 8:54 PM

bitcoin people are constantly getting pwnd by clipboard stealers even on linux

antheas•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

year of the linux desktop, am I right?

RRoyAwesome bitcoin people are constantly getting pwnd by clipboard stealers even on linux

antheas•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

thats where the money is

RRoyAwesome bitcoin people are constantly getting pwnd by clipboard stealers even on linux

Crono•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

X11 be like

Aantheas year of the linux desktop, am I right?

ZegliusOP•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

We reached 4% so

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

it's pretty trivial to write malware that replaces bitcoin wallet addresses in your clipboard

antheas•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

but isnt 2% chromebooks?

ZZeglius We reached 4% so

Kamquat•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

3.5% of that is Steam Decks

Kamquat•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

prolly

Kamquat•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

lol

antheas•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

steam survey says like half of gamers are steam decks

Aantheas but isnt 2% chromebooks?

Kamquat•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

Not in the Steam hardware survey

Janier•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

At least bazzite have a extra protection because root is read only

Kamquat•7/3/24, 8:55 PM

Chromebooks that run steam are very low %

Crono•7/3/24, 8:56 PM

4% on Steam is still like 10 million people

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 8:56 PM

it also helps that linux doesn't really bother with not breaking userland

RRoyAwesome bitcoin people are constantly getting pwnd by clipboard stealers even on linux

ZegliusOP•7/3/24, 8:56 PM

There were actual apps that stole crypto wallets in snap/flatpak if I remember correctly

CCrono 4% on Steam is still like 10 million people

Crono•7/3/24, 8:56 PM

Of monthly active users mind you

digitalpope•7/3/24, 8:56 PM

I'm honestly looking at swapping my desktop over, but I've gotta get the rodecaster pro II working completely for my audio setup, which is going to be fun, lol

CCrono Debian doesn't come with sudo either

M2•7/3/24, 8:56 PM

It does but the default user is not part of the sudo group

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 8:56 PM

and getting into the kernel is kinda hard for malware unlike windows which has numerous exposed driver keys that viruses can just use

ZZeglius There were actual apps that stole crypto wallets in snap/flatpak if I remember c...

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 8:57 PM

yeah, it's pretty trivial to go after bitcoin because 1) that community is dumb 2) they dont actually understand security and 3) they're really dumb

digitalpope•7/3/24, 8:57 PM

I do dumb things like send the work laptop to capture cards, then use OBS to pull them into a single window I can deal with, with a rodecaster pro II for my audio interface to both systems

MM2 It does but the default user is not part of the sudo group

Crono•7/3/24, 8:58 PM

Checked the Debian wiki, apparently not?

Ddigitalpope I do dumb things like send the work laptop to capture cards, then use OBS to pul...

ZegliusOP•7/3/24, 8:58 PM

That sounds messy

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 8:58 PM

like "DONT COPY PASTE SH COMMANDS FROM A BROWSER" advice only had to be posted literally everywhere after bitcoin took off because things got dumb really fast

Eggman•7/3/24, 8:59 PM

i decided to switch to gnome, kde is freezing my panel all the time :dinobones:

digitalpope•7/3/24, 8:59 PM

in principle it is, but once it's all set up and working, it's great....no switching inputs around to get the work laptop on my desktop's display...just open OBS and window project it back to my main desktop PC, lol

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 8:59 PM

but like, fundamentally, one of the things that makes windows particularly vulnerable to malware is the level of trust it has in userland

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 9:00 PM

and, before windows 10/11, windows did a lot for you that could easily be hijacked

RoyAwesome•7/3/24, 9:00 PM

that doesn't happen as much which is why viruses aren't a widespread thing

Crono•7/3/24, 9:01 PM

Something really cool Windows does now is some virtualization-based protection at the kernel level

the best antivirus is: Update your dependencies And look what you are downloading, from where

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