He is somehow conflating the criticism of a continued removal of features and customization in gnome
He is somehow conflating the criticism of a continued removal of features and customization in gnome with a criticism of accessibility
Kthe top left is mathematiclly the slowest corner to get to for a right handed user, and it exposes shortcuts along the bottom edge
Kextremely poor placement
Aremoval of customization is not dumbing down
Ktons of extra mouse movement
KFair enough, got it
MNeither were installed when I installed the component you suggested
MYou are conflating simplification of a DE experience for modern hardware, that is still fully customizable through extensions with dumbing down, which is the abelism part, and it's she
KMaybe its named differently on other distros
MSo change it?
KYes, that's what he did
MOr use a keyboard or use swipe up?
KBazzite's defaults are to use Hot Edge
MKde uses upper left corner too
Kmy solution is to turn it off by default and use hot edge
KKDE using upper left corner makes the least sense of them all
Kwhich makes the entire bottom edge act as the hot corner
Kapply pressure to show the dash like a hidden dock
MAha, you explicitly have to install the libglvnd-opengl package as well
MI like that yeah
MThere's also an extension that adds a little android/iOS style indicator at the bottom and you can just swipe up with one finger, love that extension
MAlso, if you really wanna get into it, the workspaces and window management system of vanilla gnome out of the box is more sophisticated, especially for mouse or touch screen than default KDE
MAnd it has a more functional onscreen keyboard with autocomplete support for people who don't have the opportunity to plug in a keyboard
SI used it for many years. Every single release for the past few years removed powerful features in the core system utils, like the file explorer. Use gnome long enough, and they'll remove features you like, too
MLol, I have been using gnome since version 2, ever heard of Mate?
MThey changed, change happens
MAlso, if you don't like the simple file manager, terminal is riiiight there
GHot edge should be the default GNOME behaviour imo. It's so intuitive and fast
SThere's nothing to argue about here; I used quite a few features that no longer exist, so I switched away from it. This is objectively less functionality for power users. I am not blind, so the parallel improvements to that stuff aren't relevant to me. If you didn't use the removed features, then you'll still enjoy gnome I assume (for now)
MIt's not about meeting YOUR needs, it's about meeting most people's needs, and having extensibility to do the former
GAnd it's positioned right where the dash/dock would be anyway
JI'm a power user and I love GNOME, it existing doesn't affect you.
Jyou can just not use it
SI'd rather just install KDE and have things integrated, than hunt down a bunch of extensions
MAlso, "not blind" rly? Rly?
AHi! When i was using manjaro yhere was an extensions and a command to switch to teh secondary hpu of my laptop (i have a hybrid intl/nvidia). On bazzite how can i switch the entire desktop to Nvidia only instead of intel?
GSaid it yesterday, but if GNOME's workflow works well for you then it's a significantly more polished experience than KDE imo. But they're both high quality desktops for different needs
GBest to leave it at that really
SAgreed
MI'd like to manage my workspaces better, not have bloat out of the box, have better extensibility, and an on screen keyboard that's full featured in case I do need to use the terminal or something, to each there own, this is not objective
MAlso, not being for power users =/= dumb you should be more careful with your language
SOhhhh, you were taking issue with the phrase "dumbing-down"?
MAs well as making comments about the blind as a euphemism sure
MJust generally most of this
MIf you can't see it whatever, not my job
SThat wasn't a euphemism; they've integrated a lot of screen reader functionality recently
SI was just pointing out that, while good, it's not relevant for my workflow
MWell that's good, still, claiming it as a reason to use it, really still not great
M"Well I am not disabled why would I use GNOME? "
MLike, what a nice way to throw shade
SI think you're picking a strange fight over an innocuous exchange of opinions, so I am going to stop responding to you
