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2y ago
Pez
you should leave it in packages but let it stay broken so people dont complain about no x11
you should leave it in packages but let it stay broken so people dont complain about no x11
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Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:40 AM
they complain about broken x11 instead
:hahasuffering
:
P
Pez
you should leave it in packages but let it stay broken so people dont complain a...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
I
'd rather they layer it and then open an issue so I can close
+ won
't fix it in complete confidence by virtue of the package being there in
rpm-ostree status
rpm-ostree status
M
Muko Tabi
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
I can even screenshot the glitchiest in x11
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
And yet
, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stuff need it and can
’t run Wayland
M
Mcromae
And yet, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stu...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
that is what XWayland is for
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
they can run literally any other distro if this is a problem
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
which is not going away
, just as pipewire
-pulse isn
't going away
M
Mcromae
And yet, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stu...
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
They
'd also likely not be running
bazzite
to do so
K
Kamquat
Poor X11.
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
X11 has served surprisingly fine for being a stop gap measure for setups that no longer even exist anymore
K
Kyle Gospo
that is what XWayland is for
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
It
’s broken
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:41 AM
supporting haskell developers isn
't our mission here LMFAO
M
Mcromae
It’s broken
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
"it
's broken
" he says on the distro that plays games entirely in XWayland
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
there are also fully featured nested x11 compositors you can use
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
I will not entertain this
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
i want to
"play elden ring without screen tearing
"
P
Pez
they can run literally any other distro if this is a problem
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
No I can
’t
, that
’s right up there with saying
“if you don
’t like it here move
”
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
not support 80s software
H
halva
X11 has served surprisingly fine for being a stop gap measure for setups that no...
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
I
've been using X11 since it was Xfree86
. It
's about time it got put out to pasture
. It
's kludges on top of hacks on top of patches at this point
.
M
Mcromae
And yet, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stu...
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
what does haskell even have to do with windowing protocols what
M
Mcromae
No I can’t, that’s right up there with saying “if you don’t like it here move”
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
yeah and that
's actually the prerogative set
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:42 AM
you can go use an ancient LTS distro if you need LTS software
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
nobody is stopping you from not getting updates but yourself at that point
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
Or run a VM
. Or Distrobox and VNC to yourself
.
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
you don
't have to use wayland but nobody is going to stop progress on wayland for some random ass industrial control software from the 80s
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
you can even start your own distro that supports those users
P
Pez
you don't have to use wayland but nobody is going to stop progress on wayland fo...
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:43 AM
Don
't make the COBOL programmers come after you
.
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
oh no
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
it
's ok i
'll just show their boss chatgpt
M
Mervius
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
all 2 of them
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
cobol programmer in a can
K
Kamquat
Don't make the COBOL programmers come after you.
H
halva
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
what are they going to do
, throw walking canes at them
?
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
(he
's not very good but that
's ok it
's a cobol programmer in 2024
)
P
Pez
it's ok i'll just show their boss chatgpt
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:44 AM
https://spectrum.ieee.org/chatgpt-for-coding
IEEE Spectrum
How Good Is ChatGPT at Coding, Really?
Study finds that while AI can be great
, it also struggles due to training limitations
K
Kamquat
https://spectrum.ieee.org/chatgpt-for-coding
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:45 AM
i
'm well aware
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:45 AM
i am being facetious
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:45 AM
I
've used chatgpt to write code
, but just for myself cause lazy and I was curious
.
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:45 AM
I
'd give it an 7
/10
.
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:45 AM
you can get it to a 9 if you are really intense about your setup
P
Pez
you can even start your own distro that supports those users
M
Mcromae
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
Wow
, literally absurd responses
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
wtfym
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
what
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
how the god damn shit do you think bazzite ended up happening
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
somebody went
"i want to support
$USERS
"
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:46 AM
somebody else provided a space for that person to support
$USERS
P
Pez
you can get it to a 9 if you are really intense about your setup
K
Kamquat
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
it does write semi
-competent Pascal code
.
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
GNOME is dropping their X11 session w
/ Fedora 41
P
Pez
OP
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
$OTHER
_USERS showing up to demand
$OUT
_OF
_SCOPE
_FEATURE are literally beyond being an issue
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
KDE dropped it with Fedora 40
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
Budgie is getting a massive Wayland release
, I imagine they
'll drop X11 next
K
Kyle Gospo
•
7/8/24, 12:47 AM
even XFCE has a Wayland compositor now
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