i just ordered an alpha prime to hopefully rectify this, and have this flanker grip on pre-order as

i just ordered an alpha prime to hopefully rectify this, and have this flanker grip on pre-order as i much prefer the aesthetics, and also appreciate no twist

amadeusOP•7/16/24, 6:22 PM

(i think the twist stuff in the other virpils contribute to the creaking/not feeling clean)

Aamadeus (i think the twist stuff in the other virpils contribute to the creaking/not fee...

Bob Bushman•7/16/24, 6:25 PM

Isn't there a grub screw to lock out the twist on those ?

amadeusOP•7/16/24, 6:27 PM

there are, but i think the nature of allowing rotation at the grip level relative to the connector inevitably creates an an area where some metal has to connect to the plastic, and this is ultimately a weak point that over time wears down. an all metal grip, with no ability to rotate i think is the ultimate play

amadeusOP•7/16/24, 6:27 PM

the alpha prime is probably nearly or just as good given it's at least all metal and metal on metal connection

amadeusOP•7/16/24, 6:28 PM

i mostly just wish that virpil would sell twist as an additional feature in the alpha/prime

Aamadeus i just ordered an alpha prime to hopefully rectify this, and have this flanker g...

Dracks•7/16/24, 6:29 PM

Totally agree with you, the twist has created some technical concerns for me

. Well in short, I think the temptation will be short-lived

amadeusOP•7/16/24, 6:30 PM

the way i see it -- the alpha prime will only get a couple months of use, so i should be able to sell in good shape when the flnkr comes around

amadeusOP•7/16/24, 6:32 PM

so the real question is -- when we get our flnkr grips, how quickly can walmis get it working with the rhino? he'll have to probably make a profile, but also with the ability to support swapping out some switches...

Aamadeus so the real question is -- when we get our flnkr grips, how quickly can walmis g...

Dracks•7/16/24, 6:41 PM

Yes, probably, but I wonder if in the meantime we couldn't use one of the other profiles (?).
@walmis , What do you think?

SamNFTY•7/16/24, 7:17 PM

Did you all see this?
https://discord.com/channels/438688364359581707/1133631640862728202/1262774029765312605

SamNFTY•7/16/24, 7:18 PM

QR4Rigs making Rhino specific extensions.

Aamadeus https://virpil-controls.us.com/vpc-flnkr-grip.html

RoboGeoff•7/16/24, 9:41 PM

yikes. $310 for a Virpil grip?

amadeusOP•7/16/24, 9:42 PM

it's their high end grip, to be expected

amadeusOP•7/16/24, 9:43 PM

(fwiw -- we're all in here for a joystick base that starts at like $800)

RoboGeoff•7/16/24, 9:44 PM

I've always thought of Virpil grips to be on the cheaper end

RoboGeoff•7/16/24, 9:48 PM

but hey. maybe they're really stepping up with these new grips. I've only used some of their older plastic grips

amadeusOP•7/16/24, 9:48 PM

ehh, i wouldn't say that, i would say they've always been on the mid to higher end of the mid teir production stuff, like the only stuff better would be like super custom/military type stuff. Their alpha's before the prime were in the mid 200s, but dropped in price a bit with the Prime

Aamadeus ehh, i wouldn't say that, i would say they've always been on the mid to higher e...

nubbins•7/17/24, 1:26 AM

For sure, the FLNKR will elevate their grip line

nubbins•7/17/24, 1:26 AM

I've never really thought very highly of their grips

nubbins•7/17/24, 1:26 AM

This is their chance to turn things around

RoboGeoff•7/17/24, 1:40 AM

I remember the T50 CM2 grip being called "premium" so I don't know what Virpil's standards really are

FuturPaladin [FR/2A]☨•7/17/24, 2:07 AM

Virpil's goated

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 2:07 AM

I mean, everything is relative. A lot of terms being thrown around here, with no relative basis

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 2:18 AM

Premium compared to something like a cheap saitek, probably not so premium against some hand crafted $1k+ F16 replica

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 2:22 AM

And even within their lineup they have a range

RRoboGeoff I remember the T50 CM2 grip being called "premium" so I don't know what Virpil's...

Col. Sanders•7/17/24, 2:36 AM

What do you recommend and use?

RoboGeoff•7/17/24, 4:05 AM

Virpil is fine, but to see one being priced at $310 on sale, regular $369.95 seems very overpriced. I see that Virpil has removed that "regular" price from their page in the last few hours even though it's still cached by Google.

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 4:13 AM

relative to what though? this is an all metal grip, with interchangeable hats?

RRoboGeoff Virpil is fine, but to see one being priced at $310 on sale, regular $369.95 see...

nubbins•7/17/24, 4:48 AM

$370 is a bit outrageous but $310 seems about right, I'd expect it to be sold at the latter price

nubbins•7/17/24, 4:48 AM

although I don't really understand the differences in relative pricing between alpha prime and FLNKR in EU vs USA

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:03 AM

outrageous relative to what? Like the absolute price? Or is there a better grip for a better price?

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:27 AM

~~better also being relative~~

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:28 AM

If you don't already have a grip, the FLNKR is definitely a solid option

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:29 AM

If you've already got a decent grip, the price can definitely seem steep for what it offers over what you already have (in my case VKB MCG Pro)

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:30 AM

There's no question the grip is solid quality, but is it $310-370 more quality than what I already have? not really

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:30 AM

I think my hangup is that it's juuuuusssst a little high for what it is, and the market it's releasing into

JJon (Bounty_V)If you've already got a decent grip, the price can definitely seem steep for wha...

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:30 AM

it's not competing with the mcg pro tho, it's competing with the gunfighter 4 ultimate which is a lot more money, no?

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:31 AM

hot take: its primary demographic, aside from newcomers or people looking for an upgrade, is to throw virpil fans a bone "here's something even better you can buy now"

Aamadeus it's not competing with the mcg pro tho, it's competing with the gunfighter 4 ul...

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:31 AM

That's a base, not a grip, right?

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:31 AM

would a nice replica Flanker grip be a neat thing to have? totally, 100%
and the brake lever and slew are nice to have compared to some cheaper options

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:31 AM

but you can get those on a $200 metal stick from WinWing too

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:31 AM

and there's no Flanker sim (currently)

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/products/gunfighter-iv-modern-combat-edition-ultimate-tabletop

VKB North America

Gunfighter IV ‘Modern Combat Edition’ Ultimate - Tabletop

Gunfighter IV ‘Modern Combat Edition’ Ultimate - Tabletop Dive into the heart of modern aerial combat with the Gunfighter IV ‘Modern Combat Edition’ Ultimate. This joystick is engineered for precision and responsiveness, offering a deeply immersive experience with advanced controls designed for the complexities of mode

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

whatever the grip that comes with that

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

Includes

1 MCG ‘Modern Combat Grip’ – Ultimate
1 Gunfighter IV Base

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

Yeah thats the MCG U grip

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

which is closer in price

Spitfire ZX•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

I don't think it's wildly off at the ~$300 mark, but that's still $370 ish shipped, and then apparently the price is going up by $60 later

Jon (Bounty_V)•7/17/24, 5:32 AM

Which is the MCG Pro but metal

amadeusOP•7/17/24, 5:33 AM

right -- my point is -- this is catering to a more luxury/premium category

i just ordered an alpha prime to hopefully rectify this, and have this flanker grip on pre-order as

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