Universal Blue•2y ago

today

KKyle Gospo today

Valerie•7/26/24, 11:39 PM

What about tomorrow

JJayden like this?

Jayden•7/26/24, 11:39 PM

doesnt seem to work ;( oh well

VValerie What about tomorrow

Kyle GospoOP•7/26/24, 11:39 PM

probably

Valerie•7/26/24, 11:39 PM

Madness!

DeSanta•7/26/24, 11:39 PM

Could you mention some improvements?

Jayden•7/26/24, 11:40 PM

https://tenor.com/view/and-the-next-day-gif-26740889

Tenor

DeSanta•7/26/24, 11:42 PM

I would like to understand why the GRUB takes so long to start the system, and sometimes it doesn't start at all

Valerie•7/26/24, 11:42 PM

That's not normal behaviour.

DDeSanta I would like to understand why the GRUB takes so long to start the system, and s...

Kyle GospoOP•7/26/24, 11:43 PM

we don't make grub, and given the number of other issues you've had I'd seriously start to consider hardware issues

HHikariKnight copying to the usb (especially if the usb is crap or bad) can corrupt the iso

Hollow•7/26/24, 11:43 PM

got a new usb, checked the hash and it matched and it still won't boot from ventoy

DeSanta•7/26/24, 11:43 PM

Lol

KKyle Gospo we don't make grub, and given the number of other issues you've had I'd seriousl...

Valerie•7/26/24, 11:43 PM

Especially intermittent issues like this.

KKyle Gospo everything about your setup is sus

PubisDeciusMons•7/26/24, 11:45 PM

Ok, what is sus about it? Would you recommend against dual boot at this time? I think the issue has to do with the Ally's Bios option for Secure Boot. Everything worked great except this Bios setting, which is not discussed anywhere in the documentation.

If I leave Secure Boot Control enabled in Bios (and it's on by default), I get this screen when booting to Bazzite. However, the dpad is nonfunctional so I have no way of getting past this screen. All the buttons don't work, this screen forces me to reboot, go into Bios, and disable Secure Boot Control. Then it boots to Bazzite without a problem. Secure Boot Control is separate in Bios from Secure Boot itself being on or off; in my case Secure Boot has always been set to off, but Secure Boot Control was set to enabled by default and I had to turn it off.

Otherwise I did everything according to instructions.

PPubisDeciusMons Ok, what is sus about it? Would you recommend against dual boot at this time? I ...

Kyle GospoOP•7/26/24, 11:46 PM

Ok, what is sus about it?

1: only one reporting a fundemental graphical issue our testers would have found
2: suddely broken Windows w/ issue that can't arise from mere dual booting

Valerie•7/26/24, 11:46 PM

Didn't the BSOD mention something BIOS related?

VValerie Didn't the BSOD mention something BIOS related?

Kyle GospoOP•7/26/24, 11:46 PM

Yeah, ACPI issue

Kyle GospoOP•7/26/24, 11:46 PM

seriously fundemental problem

KKyle Gospo Yeah, ACPI issue

Valerie•7/26/24, 11:47 PM

Oh yeah that's bad

Kyle GospoOP•7/26/24, 11:47 PM

hence, reimaging Windows and trying again

KKyle Gospo Yeah, ACPI issue

PubisDeciusMons•7/26/24, 11:47 PM

I guess my point is, I'm OK redoing the entire process but how do I handle the Bios setting I mentioned, do I turn it off before trying to install Bazzite? And is there anything else I need to do differently in my process? I'm just trying to understand why we would expect a different result if I repeat the process exactly the same.

PPubisDeciusMons I guess my point is, I'm OK redoing the entire process but how do I handle the B...

Kyle GospoOP•7/26/24, 11:48 PM

bazzite can be installed w/ secure boot on

Kyle GospoOP•7/26/24, 11:48 PM

but I wouldn't even touch that until you've confirmed windows works perfectly after reimaging

Valerie•7/26/24, 11:48 PM

I'm gonna say my piece and bet on SOME kind of hardware issue now, especially if Windows gives issues.

VValerie I'm gonna say my piece and bet on SOME kind of hardware issue now, especially if...

PubisDeciusMons•7/26/24, 11:49 PM

Hardware as in the Ally X or the Samsung SSD?

PPubisDeciusMons Hardware as in the Ally X or the Samsung SSD?

Valerie•7/26/24, 11:49 PM

I mean, I doubt it's the SSD if the BSOD is complaining about ACPI

HHollow got a new usb, checked the hash and it matched and it still won't boot from vent...

HikariKnight•7/26/24, 11:50 PM

dont have a usb to check ventoy with atm but the installer should have ventoy support. if not then its blindly tabbing to navigate the wrongly scaled installer

VValerie I mean, I doubt it's the SSD if the BSOD is complaining about ACPI

PubisDeciusMons•7/26/24, 11:51 PM

I think I'll return this Ally X tomorrow to Best Buy as planned, after I take out my SSD. Then on the new unit I'll put my SSD back in and see if Windows will boot, and if the graphics artifact still recurs. If there's still any issue I'll re-image the entire drive.

FlipCup•7/26/24, 11:56 PM

Saw some workarounds potentially to get GeForceNow (Electron) to do 120FPS on linux. Something about modifying a few flags/settings in Chrome. Anyone ever try?

satlen•7/26/24, 11:56 PM

I used ventoy (my ventoy version is 1.0.97) today with no issue

KKyle Gospo bazzite can be installed w/ secure boot on

PubisDeciusMons•7/26/24, 11:59 PM

During the install process Bazzite could not start up for the first time and was giving an error message about bad shim signature, which I understood had to do with Secure Boot, so I turned that off and then Bazzite finished installing and ran for the first time. I guess I'll have to pay extra close attention to that next time.

PPubisDeciusMons During the install process Bazzite could not start up for the first time and was...

Kyle GospoOP•7/27/24, 12:00 AM

our installer uses Fedora's kernel, which is signed with Fedora's microsoft-approved key

Kyle GospoOP•7/27/24, 12:01 AM

the only way to get that error is:
1: you messed up and didn't enroll the key after the installer finished
2: cosmic ray

KKyle Gospo our installer uses Fedora's kernel, which is signed with Fedora's microsoft-appr...

PubisDeciusMons•7/27/24, 12:08 AM

OK, now it's becoming clear where this went sideways. I watched Aru's video and in his install, he skips enrolling the key when shown the MOK option screen. I followed his video and clicked past it, and immediately got the shim error. I then went into Bios and disabled the Secure Boot Control, restarted, and Bazzite resumed installing and loaded successfully. I don't know how this causes an ACPI error but this is the clear point at which I fucked up (I've never used Linux before lol in case that wasn't clear). It's true that after I resized the drive, I never again booted into Windows, I went straight into booting the Bazzite USB and installing Bazzite. I did not boot Windows again till today when I got the ACPI error.

HikariKnight•7/27/24, 12:09 AM

turning off secure boot would not cause the ACPI error as it is not related

PPubisDeciusMons OK, now it's becoming clear where this went sideways. I watched Aru's video and ...

Kyle GospoOP•7/27/24, 12:09 AM

secure boot definitely has nothing to do with any of your problems

Kyle GospoOP•7/27/24, 12:11 AM

again I don't even think it's worth the mental energy to figure this out, your issues are fundemental and I wouldn't do anything but re-install Windows right now and re-test

KKyle Gospo secure boot definitely has nothing to do with any of your problems

PubisDeciusMons•7/27/24, 12:11 AM

Do you think I should go ahead and replace the unit to rule out anything hardware related? Or re-image on this unit? Seems like you still lean towards software as the issue

PPubisDeciusMons Do you think I should go ahead and replace the unit to rule out anything hardwar...

Kyle GospoOP•7/27/24, 12:12 AM

no, until you install Windows that is at best a fix and at worse generating e-waste

bebi•7/27/24, 12:13 AM

@Crush ty for u answer about gamescope session but what i was trying to do is run a gamescope steam within kde in my htpc and it worked ty

KKyle Gospo no, until you install Windows that is at best a fix and at worse generating e-wa...

PubisDeciusMons•7/27/24, 12:13 AM

Okey dokey. I will take your advice and make this a project for tomorrow. Can I just post in here if I have any questions about the reinstall?

Kyle GospoOP•7/27/24, 12:13 AM

yup

Bbebi @Crush ty for u answer about gamescope session but what i was trying to do is ru...

Valerie•7/27/24, 12:13 AM

Ohh sorry, I see.

bebi•7/27/24, 12:14 AM

gladly it is already included gamescope in brazite

HHikariKnight dont have a usb to check ventoy with atm but the installer should have ventoy su...

Hollow•7/27/24, 12:29 AM

it's alright thank you for your advice and time though

KKyle Gospo today

Froggyman [R5 7600X RX9070XT]•7/27/24, 1:28 AM

what about yesterday

Froggyman [R5 7600X RX9070XT]•7/27/24, 1:28 AM

oh wait, that message was yesterday lol

Froggyman [R5 7600X RX9070XT]•7/27/24, 1:29 AM

Hey :catangry: you said "Today" but "Today" was yesterday and yesterday was nothing released so tomorrow will be today

Daisuke88•7/27/24, 1:57 AM

Hi team, I'm planning on migrating to Bazzite from Ubuntu. My question is, am I able to install rpm package that won't get "deleted" on a next version upgrade?

I use the video editor Light works* witch is a paid software and they distribute the software via rpm or deb

DDaisuke88 Hi team, I'm planning on migrating to Bazzite from Ubuntu. My question is, am I ...

Kyle GospoOP•7/27/24, 1:58 AM

Yep, rpm-ostree install file.rpmrpm-ostree install file.rpm

Kyle GospoOP•7/27/24, 1:58 AM

your layers are kept across updates

today

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