His YouTube? Do you have a link? Many thanks!
His YouTube? Do you have a link? Many thanks!
JIt doesn't give you temps or say anything (unless its in Chinese somewhere and I missed it)
I will admit, I didn't know about the IR testing on metal and that it isnt very effective (lesson learned). And happy to do more testing. I have flown with it for long periods of time and never noticed any issues though from heat.
Obviously more testing can be done and I am happy to try things suggested from others... its a learning process for me as I've never owned a FFB device, so was just trying to do my dilligence with what I did know and things I stumbled upon while doing my research.
I will admit, I didn't know about the IR testing on metal and that it isnt very effective (lesson learned). And happy to do more testing. I have flown with it for long periods of time and never noticed any issues though from heat.
Obviously more testing can be done and I am happy to try things suggested from others... its a learning process for me as I've never owned a FFB device, so was just trying to do my dilligence with what I did know and things I stumbled upon while doing my research.
RIt looks reasonably well built. I just think it will be disappointing on first impressions when people plug it in and start using it. This is it? This is force-feedback?
JI think they have time to figure out the software, i got feedback from them that they identified a lot of the issues i had and brought up. So hopefully things like force trim are just working in the next update (they claim it will be)
JMy hope is, on launch a lot of those issues are just solved, it seems like they should at least be able to figure that out.
I plan to do a followup for any software update i get prior to people getting their units.
I plan to do a followup for any software update i get prior to people getting their units.
BForce trim is pretty much the number one reason for ffb.
AInteresting to see the gimbal has a moving pitch motor design
JYa, first thing i tried and was dumbfounded by it not working
Ado you use curves in dcs?
Aif you have curves in use ffb starts doing all kinds of funky crab
Afor me the best stress tests were shooting down Su-30s in the F-18 mission and the ultimate test was flying normal missions with the Dr.1 in Il-2
JNo, im not a fan of curves
AI think there were options in the special tab for trimming, I assume you have the ffb friendly one selected?
JThis takes 1, maybe 2 passes though, doesn't seem long enough
AI shot down lots of them
BI love curves, but not on my dcs inputs 
JYes, Moza sent me a message saying they identified the issue I pointed out with Direct Input 
Ayeah that's kind of odd, since dcs does force trim all by itself afaik so it should just work
Jtheir spring setting is overriding it
Ayeah that's probably not very easy to fly then
Jso if Direct Input gets a request to set spring force to 0, and you have spring force set to 100 in the moza cockpit software, it just uses the 100
JIn the latest software I have, it goes to like 50%, but not zero
Jand the offset for where you release the trim button, is like 1/4th of what it should be
Ain rhino software you have the option of overriding by setting any settings "sticky", otherwise the game gets the last word exactly because of this
Jso it moves off of center, but only about 1/4 the distance to where you released
Athat made me think about curves, because I think that was precisely the issue people with curves had
JI can double check but I never set them, only thing I use to set them for was the gazelle prior to the FM update
Jand that was cause the inputs were so sensitive
Awell if moza already indentified the problem I suppose it's probably not curves
Jya
Awhen I look at the design I'm thinking that heat dissipation is necessarily going to be pretty low and wondering just how much will it take to start overheating the motors
Aare there any kind of ventilation holes anywhere on the base?
JDouble checked, no curves set
JNothing obvious
Ado I remember correctly that they use a fairly high voltage power supply?
Athat would help with heat generation
AGoing into ffb, that certainly was the main selling point for me
ABut at this point I’d say that the ability to tweak stick effects and forces not just with such great detail and varying effects, but within a couple of seconds of navigating software as opposed to thumb killing work on a physical base or the like is just… mind blowing
Ayeah that's 36V unless I'm mistaken
A36V x 5A isn't exactly incredible amount of power, but should work pretty heat efficiently
Aand I'm not saying it's too little power, I think that's kind of what's expected
TYeah we run off standard 20 and 9A but the Rhino “can” run off a bench top power supply.
Rhino is as versatile as it will ever be and nothing will ever touch it.
That’s just facts all the rest of them aren’t “catching up”
Be real they are copying
Rhino is as versatile as it will ever be and nothing will ever touch it.
That’s just facts all the rest of them aren’t “catching up”
Be real they are copying
Awell to be honest it would be kind of sad if nothing would ever touch the Rhino, I'm hoping for all kinds of bigger and better things in the future
THere is the video.
Skip to like 5min to see him set up the power supply stuff and talk about it.
You can also tag him to get the max numbers but they are in the manual if I remember
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iNhRD2Bsb8o
Skip to like 5min to see him set up the power supply stuff and talk about it.
You can also tag him to get the max numbers but they are in the manual if I remember
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iNhRD2Bsb8o
YouTubeValmantas Palikša
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TI don’t mean nothing in the future but nothing currently will because they aren’t innovating they are copying features the rhino has already “developed”
In the future the best will get wayyyyyyy better… but your talking another 20yrs for some tech or whatever to move to the next generation
In the future the best will get wayyyyyyy better… but your talking another 20yrs for some tech or whatever to move to the next generation
TAs example if they all suddenly add… “elevator droop” as discussed in the video that’s a real thing that’s not just for warbirds…
A common GA piper with a stabilitor you also get droop when under a certain airspeed until the airflow apply pressure to activate the control surfaces.
The rhino has that feature.
The rest can add it and while some folks will call it catching up…
I just call it copying haha
But that’s fine I’m not hating I just know I’d never pay $500 to be an early adopter or an equipment tester.
You can buy a Rhino and fly and fly seriously on day zero
A common GA piper with a stabilitor you also get droop when under a certain airspeed until the airflow apply pressure to activate the control surfaces.
The rhino has that feature.
The rest can add it and while some folks will call it catching up…
I just call it copying haha
But that’s fine I’m not hating I just know I’d never pay $500 to be an early adopter or an equipment tester.
You can buy a Rhino and fly and fly seriously on day zero
TAlso….. all this stuff about how you can’t do returns?
And they want you to ship or take it someplace to be fixed?
(Like Microcenter maybe?)
And they want you to ship or take it someplace to be fixed?
(Like Microcenter maybe?)
Bthe main "innovation" of the Moza is making it more available to the masses at a competitive price
TI agree with that for sure.
Even if Virpil or whoever also copy and create some nice FFB… it won’t be available to the masses for sure
Even if Virpil or whoever also copy and create some nice FFB… it won’t be available to the masses for sure
TAnd I know not everyone has time or the inclination to DIY