why not use nix to generate the container image?
why not use nix to generate the container image?
JThere's tons of tools to generate container images, using bash and containerfiles is just our approach
Ryou already tested it? damn, i was looking forward to VRR....
QBecause once you've drunk the nix koolaid enough to do that, largely you might as well just use NixOS and be done with it. It gives you more or less all the same benefits of an atomic distro at that point, including the same generational update capabilities, controlled updates, and so on. The only real advantage would be layering over the fantastic work people like you guys have done getting a stable combination of kernels and appropriate configuration for drivers and system software like power and sound subsystems. Looking at my nixos config right now, about a quarter of it setting up things like pipewire, lactd, tlp and thermald, kernel param and sysctls, etc, much of it cribbed from looking at configs from Bazzite and reconciling them with other people's nixos gaming configs for how to set such things using nix.
Of the remainder of my config, about a quarter is managing secrets using SOPS (host keys, ssh auth keys, tailscale) and user permissions, a quarter common sysadmin things like disk partitioning, hostnames, timezones, NFS mounts, nix's own settings for the store and updates, and so forth. The rest is installing and configuring all my personal software packages.
I would gladly farm out all the first part to Bazzite if I had a non-Nix way to concisely and consistently do the second part. For years I did the route of hand maintained shell scripts that used various package managers directly in combo with tools like stow or chez moi. I've used Ansible, chef, puppet and similar in the past.
Of the remainder of my config, about a quarter is managing secrets using SOPS (host keys, ssh auth keys, tailscale) and user permissions, a quarter common sysadmin things like disk partitioning, hostnames, timezones, NFS mounts, nix's own settings for the store and updates, and so forth. The rest is installing and configuring all my personal software packages.
I would gladly farm out all the first part to Bazzite if I had a non-Nix way to concisely and consistently do the second part. For years I did the route of hand maintained shell scripts that used various package managers directly in combo with tools like stow or chez moi. I've used Ansible, chef, puppet and similar in the past.
PI don't care much about NixOS, just pointing out that declarative configuration existed before. Not talking exactly in OS scope here.
RFedora peeps reporting that the new 560 works fine now, games and all
RI know Kyle had a terrible experience but did anyone else here give it a try too?
Pthey are still in beta
RI know, but that's not what I'm asking here, im asking about how they work
Pdepends, you can read nvidia dev topic
Pand it is mayhem
PNVIDIA Developer Forums
Please provide feedback specific to the 560 release series here.
Pbut they did say that 2 or 3 bugs where reproduced and fixed
Punfortunetly there are more things going on there
SWell there was an update to them today so I'd guess Kyle (knowing him) will be either on it already or close to it 
Mof course not, but nixos does it much better than anything else, so i'd say it's fair to call something that achieves a similar quality "nixos-like"
QFair, and agreed. Though I will say that of all the tools I've used in the past, none have done declarative as well in the space of system config, stretching back in my personal experience through ansible, salt, chef, puppet, vagrant, cfengine and right on back to CMU depot. The thing that ever came closest was the internal build and deployment system at Amazon during the time I was there in the 2004-2008-ish era.
PThanks for the explanation, that statement from video kinda make more sense now, for me.
PYeah I understand and not saying that Nix way of doing things is bad. There are tons of tools now to do declarative, but sure since you are very well accustomed with nix stuff and it suits your needs, no point on switching to something else I guess.
QI want to. As I said, I don't actually like nix itself. I desperately want what it's selling, I just don't want it as is. The instant another tool exists that gives me the right fraction of nix I do want, I will drop it like lead balloon.
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Gyeah vanillaOS is really cool, I really like the stuff they're doing around usability and being more new-user friendly
Gunfortunately since they use abroot you can't have more than 2 images on the system
Gbut I understand ostree comes with it's own baggage
Ait also does some funny math like downloading ram
Ahow does lvm allow the root partition to be smaller?
Ai still dont understand that
Aand no diff downloads either, which perhaps for a 2gb compressed iso is not that big of a deal
Slvm isn't a partition in the normal sense, it uses volumes that can be dynamically resized, hence it being able to do some bonkers stuff lol
Awell
Aif i have a bucket
Awith a partition in the middle
Aand the bucket is 2 liters
Aif i fill each partition with 1.5 liters it will overflow
Aso wheres the magic here
Sall that would matter to LVM is the overall size, not where your partition is
MLvm can do thin provisions and over provsioning
Alets logic this out
MIt can blow up on you if you over fill it
Ai have an image that is 20gb and the update is also 20gb
AI need 40gb total, like legacy abroot
Abut with lvm i can use 20gb?
MYou will need 40 GB.
Ayeah so well
MIt's more on a 1 TB drive you can provision 2, 1 TB partitions on it. Each will think it has 1 TB, but it only consumes the current space actually on disk
Ayeah vanillaos folk claim they reduced their root partition size from 40gb to 20gb by using lvm
Aand thats funny math
G@antheas https://github.com/ublue-os/cosmic/blob/3943e8fe9d195cd5496a374a5f89905eeb1856b2/.github/workflows/build.yml does this look good now?
Gnot entirely sure what else needs to be done
Ayou can also try
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