@Robert (p5) @Kyle Gospo I guess what wasn't clear to me is, we're doing the transition now. Last ni

@Robert (p5) @Kyle Gospo I guess what wasn't clear to me is, we're doing the transition now. Last night I thought it was "oh we'll have to deal with this eventually".

Jj0rge @Robert (p5) @Kyle Gospo I guess what wasn't clear to me is, we're doing the tra...

Kyle Gospo•8/9/24, 2:33 PM

They changed the default with 560

Kyle Gospo•8/9/24, 2:33 PM

We're on Nvidia's clock whether we like it or not

Jj0rge @Robert (p5) @Kyle Gospo I guess what wasn't clear to me is, we're doing the tra...

Robert•8/9/24, 2:33 PM

Not sure what transition you're referring to.

If it's the 555 -> 560 switch, this is based on when Negativo17 switched. We just slow rolled it because I faced some issues.
If it's the proprietary -> open kernel drivers, this hasn't been done yet, right?

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:33 PM

gotcha, ok, so I should be ready to ack some stuff?

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:34 PM

basically, are we working jensen's yacht this weekend?

Jj0rge gotcha, ok, so I should be ready to ack some stuff?

Kyle Gospo•8/9/24, 2:35 PM

It's all done already, just have to start the legacy images asap

Kyle Gospo•8/9/24, 2:35 PM

We're 560 proprietary globally for now

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:35 PM

ok and what will be on legacy?

Kyle Gospo•8/9/24, 2:35 PM

560 proprietary

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:36 PM

gotcha

Kyle Gospo•8/9/24, 2:36 PM

With -nvidia becoming 560 open (or newer) in F41

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:36 PM

this is so confusing lol

antheas•8/9/24, 2:36 PM

F41 is October?

Kyle Gospo•8/9/24, 2:37 PM

Believe so

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:37 PM

https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-all-tasks.html recommend bookmarking that for a bit

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:37 PM

10-22, assuming it's on time (it usually is not)

Robert•8/9/24, 2:37 PM

There's nothing too exciting for us in F41? Chunked images moved to F42 from what you said yesterday

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:38 PM

I think the chunked thing was referring to the fedora cloud images

HikariKnight•8/9/24, 2:38 PM

essentially we should keep nvidia and nvidia-legacy both on proprietary for a bit before we flip the switch on nvidia to use the open kernel module, this gives people on older nvidia images time to catch up and get the silent rebase logic in for F41, and it gives us time to test

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:38 PM

and not the ostree ones, that would silly if they didn't set them up that way out of the box

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:40 PM

yeah someone should just post a heads up on the forum

Adrian E. (Open Source)•8/9/24, 2:42 PM

Are there examples of building custom rpm packages in bluefin or other universal blue stuff?

AAdrian E. (Open Source)Are there examples of building custom rpm packages in bluefin or other universal...

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:46 PM

most people use COPR and then just copy them into the image

Bbketelsen interesting observation: bazzite: We'll layer it! bluefin: WE LAYER NOTHING. ...

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:47 PM

this has been annoying me all morning

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:47 PM

hahahah

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:48 PM

but I think the practical answer is Bazzite has a more complicated user to cater to and it's easier for them to deal with the maintenance cost because it's better than a reviewer saying "it's missing this part vs. competitors."

j0rgeOP•8/9/24, 2:49 PM

where as I am trying to burn everything down with as little compromises to the design as I can get away with

HikariKnight•8/9/24, 2:53 PM

true, bazzites needs sometimes require stuff to be layered directly vs just running in distrobox/brew or whatever.

HikariKnight•8/9/24, 2:53 PM

we do go for flatpaks where we can though!

HHikariKnight essentially we should keep nvidia and nvidia-legacy both on proprietary for a bi...

Robotta•8/9/24, 3:13 PM

That's pretty fair
I'm glad I'll be able to keep using ublue

Jj0rge most people use COPR and then just copy them into the image

Kyle Gospo•8/9/24, 3:20 PM

You can also build them locally in a fedora distrobox

Kyle Gospo•8/9/24, 3:20 PM

And then layer the result

Kyle Gospo•8/9/24, 3:20 PM

Assuming it doesn't work in distrobox in the first place

RRobert Not sure what transition you're referring to. If it's the 555 -> 560 switch, ...

Pryka•8/9/24, 4:33 PM

Negativo still have 555 in his repo, no way to lock on it?

Dylan•8/10/24, 12:52 AM

why would we downgrade to 555 with 560 out?

Pryka•8/10/24, 1:32 AM

560 is not out, it is in beta.

@Dylan 555 was pinned down for a reason. From my understanding it was supposed to be unppined after 560 official release. But mix of 555 and 560 module/driver happened and there was no other choice.

Pryka•8/10/24, 1:33 AM

But maybe I don't understand the whole situation clearly.

Dylan•8/10/24, 1:35 AM

Sounds like it should have been packaged as nvidia-beta so things didn't automatically update

Pryka•8/10/24, 8:35 AM

Yeah, but unfortunately Negativo shipped it like this in his repository.

HikariKnight•8/10/24, 9:50 AM

first rpmfusion now negativo

Kasher_CS•8/10/24, 9:58 AM

Clearly the best repo to use is https://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/fedora39

Kasher_CS•8/10/24, 9:58 AM

(/s, ofc)

Zeglius•8/10/24, 10:01 AM

Isnt there a way to make a snapshot of negativo rpm? So we dont end up dealing with bleeding-edge versions

Aantheas How about update size?

M2•8/10/24, 1:53 PM

update size has been much better. Significantly smaller

M2•8/10/24, 1:54 PM

if the build is recent enough it's literally just the one small layer being redownloaded. Just much better on not having to download a multi gig layer at the end

j0rgeOP•8/10/24, 3:27 PM

yeah I did a cosmic update in a vm yesterday and it was like 350MB

Robert•8/10/24, 5:01 PM

Been trying to figure out how we can pin Negativo17 drivers to the non-beta ones, and I cannot figure it out.
Lots of package conflicts

j0rgeOP•8/10/24, 5:02 PM

ah nuts I was on cosmic-base, had to do a rebase to just cosmic, so no savings on that one

Robert•8/10/24, 5:03 PM

Our cosmic installations seem to be lagging behind quite a bit. The PopOS ISO has many more options in the settings pages for some reason, like being able to change the dock

M2•8/10/24, 5:09 PM

Pretty much our cosmic image is whatever is packaged in the copr.

@Robert (p5) @Kyle Gospo I guess what wasn't clear to me is, we're doing the transition now. Last ni

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