And don't forget to read the (really helpful) manual ! The part about DCS and helicopters is a good

And don't forget to read the (really helpful) manual ! The part about DCS and helicopters is a good read! In principle, it's a good way to get started with the Rhino (and take TelemFFB too, which will help you fine-tune the settings).

NNumber481 Where have you bound the button? Do you mean the binding in DCS or the binding ...

ameister•8/13/24, 5:02 PM

I did as you suggested and everything works great. What a difference this makes, wow...Thanks very much for your help

DDracks And don't forget to read the (really helpful) manual ! The part about DCS and he...

ameister•8/13/24, 5:06 PM

Yes, I've been reading it but apparently I missed the points where you had to set the trim button in both DCS and the config tool. I interpreted it so that I would only have to assign the buttons in the config tool and NOT also assign them in DCS (so, I had previously deleted my assigned buttons in DCS). I know better now...

Aameister Yes, I've been reading it but apparently I missed the points where you had to se...

Number481•8/13/24, 5:07 PM

You don't actually need anything bound in configurator. That button won't do anything unless you either have the "sticky" enabled, or if you have no game running and the Rhino is using its own effect generated by the configurator.

Aameister Yes, I've been reading it but apparently I missed the points where you had to se...

DracksOP•8/13/24, 5:47 PM

Don't worry, we all jumped on the Rhino and quickly read/understood

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Welcome to the club!

Touch_Of_Legend•8/13/24, 6:00 PM

Yeah she’s a special beast

VPforceBot•8/15/24, 6:12 AM

:package:

RHINO #0665 Has Shipped!

Virus•8/15/24, 9:38 AM

Hi, I am considering on getting a VKB F-14 grip, but I don't have any VKB hardware, I know I need the adapter, and the black box, but on the VKB EU website (flightsimcontrol.com) I am able to find only the older MkI/MKII blackbox...Or If i buy the grip they include the blackbox also?

Haaank•8/15/24, 11:18 AM

Idk about the marks but the black box isn’t included with the grip afaik.

Haaank•8/15/24, 11:19 AM

Just an fyi, ppl really (and I mean really really) love the mcgu grip.

VVirus Hi, I am considering on getting a VKB F-14 grip, but I don't have any VKB hardwa...

TheBigBobo•8/15/24, 11:24 AM

Could you not just buy the virpil one instead?

Ithergames•8/15/24, 11:41 AM

Am I really this dumb? In the VP config software; I need to set the sliders for the effects I want (the % of max) and then I setup the effects tab? This is what default is if TelemFFB isn't running right? Say in DCS those effects are overriden by what TelemFFB gives me in the module? It's not clicking for me for some reason--maybe I need more coffee or someone to hit me with a shovel.

Haaank•8/15/24, 11:50 AM

So telemFFB either enhances already present ffb in game, or substitutes it if theres no native ffb support.

Haaank•8/15/24, 11:50 AM

IL-2 has native ffb support, in dcs it depends per module.

Haaank•8/15/24, 11:50 AM

F-14 for example has good native ffb support, so telemffb is just for certain extra effects.

IIthergames Am I really this dumb? In the VP config software; I need to set the sliders for ...

Number481•8/15/24, 12:07 PM

To expand on the above,
- Settings Tab: These sliders adjust the max capability for the intensity/strength of any of the effect types, regardless of if its generated by the configurator app or by a game/telemffb
- Effects Tab: The various effects (spring/damper/inertia/friction), when enabled, will start said effect on the joystick when it is "idle" (not receiving any overlapping FFB effect from a game/TelemFFB).
- As soon as a game/TelemFFB start an overlapping effect, it will take precedence over what is in configurator UNLESS you have the sticky checkbox enabled.
- Other things on the effects page like Gain Maps, Endstops, Balance Spring, etc are persistent. It is only the previously mentioned effects and its strength settings that will be overridden by a game/telemffb.

VVirus Hi, I am considering on getting a VKB F-14 grip, but I don't have any VKB hardwa...

Col. Sanders•8/15/24, 1:41 PM

Email VKB and they can get it sorted out.

NNumber481 To expand on the above, - Settings Tab: These sliders adjust the max capability...

Ithergames•8/15/24, 2:29 PM

Ok great. That's making sense now. TY!!

VVirus Hi, I am considering on getting a VKB F-14 grip, but I don't have any VKB hardwa...

LeLv30_Superbus•8/15/24, 3:22 PM

Check this when you order, VKB customer service is always very helpful.

Col. Sanders•8/15/24, 3:29 PM

I don't think that is correct. Mk IV I am pretty sure only used black box 3 which is also compatible with Rev b connectors and rec C.

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Col. Sanders•8/15/24, 3:29 PM

Not correct. I have vkb grips and no gunfighter base.

Lt_Dan•8/15/24, 3:51 PM

Are most people turning their Rhinos right up ? Like 100% on the master gain is that ok ?

Lt_Dan•8/15/24, 3:52 PM

With the wheel on the front

amadeus•8/15/24, 3:57 PM

That’s how I run it 99% of the time

amadeus•8/15/24, 3:58 PM

I only turn it down if I feel like the spring is too strong in game and don’t want/can’t pause to adjust

Lt_Dan•8/15/24, 4:01 PM

Yeah I’ve been doing that for helicopters just knocking it down a little

I swear this thing gets better every time I use it

having it at 100% for the f18 made AAR like it was on rails so much easier now

Greekbull•8/15/24, 8:22 PM

Pretty pumped...went from 48 left to go to 1 left, invoice received and paid today. Looks like I'll have the Rhino soon!

RoboGeoff•8/15/24, 8:48 PM

I've been flying the F-14 more again just because it feels so much better now with the Rhino

amadeus•8/15/24, 8:50 PM

yeah, F-14 feels pretty great out of the box

GGreekbull Pretty pumped...went from 48 left to go to 1 left, invoice received and paid tod...

DARRYL•8/15/24, 9:33 PM

Just curious. How many months did it take for yours?

DDARRYL Just curious. How many months did it take for yours?

Greekbull•8/15/24, 10:23 PM

My original preorder was on 1/25

Greekbull•8/15/24, 10:24 PM

but I shot up almost 50 spots today so I'm sure there is a decent amount of cancelations on the free preorders as they come up in the que...

buzzbomb•8/15/24, 11:50 PM

my preorder was 2/12 and still have 112 to go

LLt_Dan Yeah I’ve been doing that for helicopters just knocking it down a little 👍🏻I s...

Ithergames•8/16/24, 12:33 AM

Mind sharing the sliders in VP software? I fly the 18 too and I'm interested in others settings.

IIthergames Mind sharing the sliders in VP software? I fly the 18 too and I'm interested in ...

Lt_Dan•8/16/24, 6:19 AM

Leave it all at default select spring and adaptive re Center in the settings menu.Then select master gain for port 1 and turn the dial up to 100 on the top of the unit.
When flying helicopters just back off the dial a bit to your liking

VPforceBot•8/16/24, 8:07 AM

:package:

RHINO #0667 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•8/16/24, 8:07 AM

:package:

RHINO #0668 Has Shipped!

Greekbull•8/16/24, 1:39 PM

Wow that was fast! Went from 48 to go to shipped in 48hrs

Bob Bushman•8/16/24, 2:27 PM

Yeah when you get the nod he probably has it ready to go, and as soon as you pay he slaps a shipping label on and off it goes.

So as long as you are quick on the ball things move fast.

Col. Sanders•8/16/24, 4:49 PM

Any updates on the MFG ffb conversion kits from Walmis? Or is that on hold.

Studsmcgee•8/16/24, 6:09 PM

Does anyone know of a place to get more info on the DIY motor kits that are available'

Studsmcgee•8/16/24, 6:09 PM

I wanted to do a diy build using the VP motors and control board and my own gimble setup, but I was just looking for more info on the motor kit itself so I pick the right one.

Studsmcgee•8/16/24, 6:09 PM

Thanks!

Stryker990•8/16/24, 7:32 PM

do we know if anybody ever tried to make a FFB throttle with the motor kits?

SStryker990 do we know if anybody ever tried to make a FFB throttle with the motor kits?

HornetDRIVER•8/16/24, 9:39 PM

Some auto throttles would be killer! Wonder how hard the challenge would be to get it syncing up to a sim properly.

HornetDRIVER•8/16/24, 9:39 PM

Not aware of any attempts at this yet.

Greekbull•8/16/24, 10:00 PM

Totally agree! I would dig an autothrottle setup! I would think the the Super Taurus would be the one to work with since it has a self contained full length throw box.

HornetDRIVER•8/16/24, 10:23 PM

That would probably be the easiest one to prototype an auto throttle setup... Could probably do it with a virpil throttle by removing the plate underneath and building a custom mounting box with the motors inside. Programming would certainly be another thing entirely...

HHornetDRIVER Some auto throttles would be killer! Wonder how hard the challenge would be to g...

Stryker990•8/17/24, 8:28 AM

honestly autothrottle was the initial thing i was exited for until i thought about it a bit: electronic detents. Currently ive got a WW orion throttle with the fingerlift kit installed which for aircraft that dont have an AB it kinda reduces the throwrange a bit and im just thinking how awesome it would be to instead of having physical detents having the motor in conjunction with telem create detents according to what aircraft you are using. A-10? no detents. You got one with AB bam it creates the detent where its on the real plane (or whatever its in DCS) and if it has AB gates telem could create slightly weaker subdetents for those gates.

Stryker990•8/17/24, 8:31 AM

and if you still want to have fingerlifts you could most likely integrate fingerlifts into the base which activate a switch that can be used as an detent override for pushing the throttle from idle to off for example

Scarlet•8/17/24, 9:22 AM

you could do that without all the FFB with a solenoid and a switch. It wouldn't be hot adjustible so you'd still have to tune every jet for it, but one switch to add or remove the gate would be handy

And don't forget to read the (really helpful) manual ! The part about DCS and helicopters is a good

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